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Eagles_Ball_69

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All pope has to do is win a few games that we expect to Lose. That’s all- then “we have found our coach”. He is an automatic 10-12 loss guy. Can’t recruit to a level beyond the sweet 16. Our season has been a little good, a little bad- just like his resume. He is not UK level. Not even close. Florida will show how far off he is.
I agree with everything except that last sentence. I wouldn't be shocked if they beat us by 40, but I also wouldn't be shocked if we won by 8. This team is just, well...Unpredictable.
 
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Lol. You think 90-99 wasn't modern basketball? Of course you do. It just doesn't fit your agenda. Why? Because zero times in that 10 yr stretch did the Cats lose double digit games. You're gonna need to hit the gym if you're gonna carry those goalposts from spot to spot.
Was there a portal on 90-99? NIL? JMI? Were A&M, Texas and Missouri in the SEC?
Thr bottom line is, you rip Pope for losing 12+ games even though he did a great job in getting to the S16 with injuries and starting from scratch. You talk about this season being 12+ losses..Last time I looked, we have 7. You are just rooting for 12+
 
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He did that this year and we see how that turned out.
I realize you probably don’t follow UK bball real close. That’s ok but to make that comment is underwhelming. You probably don’t know he’s been fielding a team that is minus 3 major contributors. Quaintenance, Lowe and Williams. All 3 would most likely be starting or playing major minutes at this point in the season if healthy.

Even with those absences Pope has won and has the team in the conference race.

Please give me another team and coach in the league who could lose 3 do that with their team ? I’ll check back.
 
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I think this thought process MIGHT chill some folks out...if it were true. He's trying to get the top recruits. He just can't land them. That's the issue. It's not that he's choosing not to recruit them, they're choosing not to sign with Pope and UK.

Don't include Potter. That just makes the point you're trying to make, which I think is reasonable, just sound silly. If Potter is ever a "solid player" at UK, 10 Loss Tubby become 12 Loss Pope.
I’m assuming you’re a younger fan and don’t understand what a solid player is. You think it’s a double figure scorer. Starter.
I think a solid player is a contributor in practice, off the floor and when called on.
 
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I’m assuming you’re a younger fan and don’t understand what a solid player is. You think it’s a double figure scorer. Starter.
I think a solid player is a contributor in practice, off the floor and when called on.
i think the baseline for a solid players is a guy like aberdeen

problem is our solid/elite player ratio is way off
 

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Was there a portal on 90-99? NIL? JMI? Were A&M, Texas and Missouri in the SEC?
Thr bottom line is, you rip Pope for losing 12+ games even though he did a great job in getting to the S16 with injuries and starting from scratch. You talk about this season being 12+ losses..Last time I looked, we have 7. You are just rooting for 12+
Wait...There was a portal in 2000? Mizzou and aTm were in the SEC in 2000? Sonofgun...I need to pay more attention I guess.

I don't "rip Pope for losing 12 games"...If you want to talk seriously and not just ***** and moan about posters that expect more from UK, then read on. If not, cool. I rip Pope for HOW the lost a lot of those 12 games last yr. They were completely non-competitive in 6 of them if memory serves. And there were 3-4 that were completely head scratching losses and a couple of those were non-competitive as well. That pattern has repeated itself this season. That's concerning. If the pattern continues to repeat itself is beyond a concern. His inability to get high level recruits it's a big concern as well.

To address your last statement...although it doesn't really deserve a response. Unless the team wins the SECT or NCAAT (long shot at best for either) they will have 9 losses. They have the toughest schedule in the country over the last 7 games. I'm not rooting for 12 losses, but I might be hoping for it. Because I think given where the team is, 4-3 over those last 7 would be a pretty good result.
 

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I just wish someone at UK, be it Pope or the AD, would just come out and tell us WHY we do not have a recruit. Tell us , we know it’s strange but here is the reason and here is what we are doing about it.
 

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I’m assuming you’re a younger fan and don’t understand what a solid player is. You think it’s a double figure scorer. Starter.
I think a solid player is a contributor in practice, off the floor and when called on.
I'm 50...A solid player isn't a practice player. Those are called managers. A "solid player" is in the normal rotation. Reese Potter better never be that at UK. If he is, that team won't be very good.
 

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i think the baseline for a solid players is a guy like aberdeen

problem is our solid/elite player ratio is way off
Nah. Aberdeen is a starter. Higher than my definition of a solid player. Cam Mills was solid. Ravi solid. Noah and Garrison are solid off the bench. Been a bunch through the years.
 

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I just wish someone at UK, be it Pope or the AD, would just come out and tell us WHY we do not have a recruit. Tell us , we know it’s strange but here is the reason and here is what we are doing about it.

Its very weird. I dont know why anyone would make excuses for it. The Kentucky basketball program has no business being in flux like this
 
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I'm 50...A solid player isn't a practice player. Those are called managers. A "solid player" is in the normal rotation. Reese Potter better never be that at UK. If he is, that team won't be very good.
Sure they are. You have to have guys who can contribute off the bench and are good competition in practice. Good off the floor. Surprised you don’t realize it.
 
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Nah. Aberdeen is a starter. Higher than my definition of a solid player. Cam Mills was solid. Ravi solid. Noah and Garrison are solid off the bench. Been a bunch through the years.
Anon907 is not a UK fan. His mom lets him sit at the perputer and terrorize this site instead of sending him outside. He even acted like he was once on HOB.
 
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Simple solution- don’t click on the thread.
Good idea.
Wait...There was a portal in 2000? Mizzou and aTm were in the SEC in 2000? Sonofgun...I need to pay more attention I guess.

I don't "rip Pope for losing 12 games"...If you want to talk seriously and not just ***** and moan about posters that expect more from UK, then read on. If not, cool. I rip Pope for HOW the lost a lot of those 12 games last yr. They were completely non-competitive in 6 of them if memory serves. And there were 3-4 that were completely head scratching losses and a couple of those were non-competitive as well. That pattern has repeated itself this season. That's concerning. If the pattern continues to repeat itself is beyond a concern. His inability to get high level recruits it's a big concern as well.

To address your last statement...although it doesn't really deserve a response. Unless the team wins the SECT or NCAAT (long shot at best for either) they will have 9 losses. They have the toughest schedule in the country over the last 7 games. I'm not rooting for 12 losses, but I might be hoping for it. Because I think given where the team is, 4-3 over those last 7 would be a pretty good result.
Its showing that over the last 25 years the game has changed. Nothing i can do to help a troll
 
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Mark Pope will not sign any top RECRUITS or Portal players until the jmi contract is modified and a general manager is hired to close the deal.
 

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recruiting is obviously broken.
is anyone actually defending Pope?
his job is to bring in elite talent.
I am sorry- but his system is built for the like of syracuse.
elite talent should want to play for a major program.
Pope is bringing in leftovers.
you can blame the likes of JMI..... but i bet it wouldnt have hindered Calipari.
 

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I agree with everything except that last sentence. I wouldn't be shocked if they beat us by 40, but I also wouldn't be shocked if we won by 8. This team is just, well...Unpredictable.
That would make a good name for this group The Unpredictables.
 

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Uhh huh, that's why absolutely EVERY SINGLE thread you start is negative, every comment is "we're a failure" and every time we win you are nowhere to be found.
not true at all

i can be a huge fan of pope and have concerns with the future health of the program at the same time
 

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He is. And he is here even after losses. Nitro went into a cave (at least before I blocked him). I assume he will be in hiding Friday night lol.
Did you see that guy calling you out for your eronious Cade Cunningham post where you had "sources" inside the program that he was coming here?

I had forgotten that thread, but remember you starting a thread saying that you had "sources" inside the program and that Calipari was leaving (He left a year and half later, lol). Have you any shame at all??

On top of those 2 shameless threads, you constantly mock Pope. You'd be better suited for facebook with your garbage posts. I love that you are reading this but can't reply because you fake-blocked me. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Sure they are. You have to have guys who can contribute off the bench and are good competition in practice. Good off the floor. Surprised you don’t realize it.
If practice players are "solid players" there's not a non solid player in all of basketball. Reese Potter could be a good manager. If he's ever a "solid player" (a regular rotation contributor) at UK, UK is in bad shape.
 

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Good idea.

Its showing that over the last 25 years the game has changed. Nothing i can do to help a troll
Just include the previous 10. Basketball in 95 was vastly different than 2000? Of course it wasn't. Why didn't you include those 10 yrs? We all know. Because UK didn't lose double digits in a single one, which obviously doesn't fit your narrative. Nothing I can do to help a pumper.
 

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Just include the previous 10. Basketball in 95 was vastly different than 2000? Of course it wasn't. Why didn't you include those 10 yrs? We all know. Because UK didn't lose double digits in a single one, which obviously doesn't fit your narrative. Nothing I can do to help a pumper.
Troll
 
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recruiting is obviously broken.
is anyone actually defending Pope?
his job is to bring in elite talent.
I am sorry- but his system is built for the like of syracuse.
elite talent should want to play for a major program.
Pope is bringing in leftovers.
you can blame the likes of JMI..... but i bet it wouldnt have hindered Calipari.
Calipari will always have the "look at all the guys I have in the NBA" card. No matter where he goes, he still has that card for recruiting.
 
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Translation: It chaps your butt that the team is playing good basketball and you look like a fool for your Fire Pope nonsense


Mark Pope will get one more year to show what he can do. He needs to make it happen next year. If he goes in the next season overspending on the portal again, but doesn't deliver on at least an elite 8, he's cooked and rightfully so.

I actually hope he turns it around. I like Mark. But he needs to be able to recruit, and so far he's never signed a top 10 player in his entire career. That's troubling.
 

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Mark Pope will get one more year to show what he can do. He needs to make it happen next year. If he goes in the next season overspending on the portal again, but doesn't deliver on at least an elite 8, he's cooked and rightfully so.

I actually hope he turns it around. I like Mark. But he needs to be able to recruit, and so far he's never signed a top 10 player in his entire career. That's troubling.
He will be here at least 4 full seasons. I'm taking all wagers
 
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No, it's not. Pope has proven that he can do just fine pulling from the portal. Most of the recruiting issues some here whine about constantly, have nothing to do with him.
I think the point many here are making is that Kentucky is not doing "just fine" ... or, at least, not fine enough. It seems the biggest question is why not ??
 
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I think the point many here are making is that Kentucky is not doing "just fine" ... or, at least, not fine enough.
The point that we're making is that Kentucky is doing just fine considering the circumstances and college landscape.
 
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Calipari will always have the "look at all the guys I have in the NBA" card. No matter where he goes, he still has that card for recruiting.
Who cares? He still can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. That goes with him wherever he goes, too.
 
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I realize you probably don’t follow UK bball real close. That’s ok but to make that comment is underwhelming. You probably don’t know he’s been fielding a team that is minus 3 major contributors. Quaintenance, Lowe and Williams. All 3 would most likely be starting or playing major minutes at this point in the season if healthy.

Even with those absences Pope has won and has the team in the conference race.

Please give me another team and coach in the league who could lose 3 do that with their team ? I’ll check back.
There’s not another coach in the league that would have done walk thrus against UL, Mich St, quit against Gonzaga and Vandy, not be prepared any game and only coach half games.

Injuries are no excuse for just not competing.

A coach could at the very least put in a game plan for the players that are playing.

Pope is what he is. He’s 53 years old. He’s been a D1 head coach 8-10 years. He played professionally. He’s a 24-12 type career coach with an S16 ceiling.

Seems many are happy with that since he’s a good guy and great cheerleader. And that’s OK if one choses to be happy with that.

But I will never understand UK basketball fans being OK with the lack of effort and just flat out quitting.

I only go back to Rupp. So maybe there was a UK coach before him that quit?

But there’s not been another one in my lifetime.

And that’s just this season. It was the same last season.

We are winning games in spite of the coach right now. All wins are good so we better enjoy them.

This house of cards is going to come crashing down.
 
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The obsession with recruiting is because freshman are good this year, some years classes aren't as strong, so it may or may not be important. We have had lots of injuries and no consistency until end of the year. We only have three guys guaranteed to leave with oweh, Aberdeen and jq. Until players transfer recruits don't see playing time.
I can see mo, garrison, and possibly jelavic leaving . That would leave us with 8 players. Lowe could leave as well, then we should see.

Pg lowe
Sg Jasper, Noah
Sf Williams, Chandler, hawthorne
Pf mo, jelavic, potter
C Moreno, garrison
 

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There’s not another coach in the league that would have done walk thrus against UL, Mich St, quit against Gonzaga and Vandy, not be prepared any game and only coach half games.

Injuries are no excuse for just not competing.

A coach could at the very least put in a game plan for the players that are playing.

Pope is what he is. He’s 53 years old. He’s been a D1 head coach 8-10 years. He played professionally. He’s a 24-12 type career coach with an S16 ceiling.

Seems many are happy with that since he’s a good guy and great cheerleader. And that’s OK if one choses to be happy with that.

But I will never understand UK basketball fans being OK with the lack of effort and just flat out quitting.

I only go back to Rupp. So maybe there was a UK coach before him that quit?

But there’s not been another one in my lifetime.

And that’s just this season. It was the same last season.

We are winning games in spite of the coach right now. All wins are good so we better enjoy them.

This house of cards is going to come crashing down.
You like many others are cal fans or became huge fans during cals tenure. The last five years we won one tournament game with cal, we lost to mid majors.

Pope is only in his second season and the off-season hasn't started yet. When that comes around people leave and hell even recruits back out of commitments. Not giving a coach enough time is ridiculous. If any other coach seen how our fans do a coach for less than two seasons they won't wanna come here. Bandwagon fans in this day and age sickening. The only team that is thriving this year with freshmen is duke. Byu, Arkansas, north Carolina, Kansas have losses.
 

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recruiting is obviously broken.
is anyone actually defending Pope?
his job is to bring in elite talent.
I am sorry- but his system is built for the like of syracuse.
elite talent should want to play for a major program.
Pope is bringing in leftovers.
you can blame the likes of JMI..... but i bet it wouldnt have hindered Calipari.
And exactly what did Calipari do with those highly rated freshmen? LOST and made Kentucky an embarrassment. One done players aren't essential to win college basketball games. It would be good to have some recruits coming in, but I trust our coach to do his job and understand that he doesn't have to share every little detail of what's going on with Kentucky basketball to the fans.
 
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