No Love from the Experts
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My goodness. Everyone has us last. What in he world do these asshats see that makes hem think Auburn and Arkansas can beat us at home?
I get that we're always picked last, but how many times under Mullen have we actually finished last?
Once in 2009. We finished tied with Arky and AU with 3-5 conf records... But they both beat us that year.
We finished last in the west only once since Mullen has been here (2009). Yet every single year they pick us to finish last (or a majority of them do). Figured it'd be worse this year since we don't have a national name leading us like we had in Dak.
The more I pay attention and the older I get, the more I realize that the "experts" are probably no more or less qualified than me or you to be an "expert". They only do research on the normal national names and teams and they are too quick to resort to the norms on teams they are unfamiliar with. Our "norm" has changed to us since Mullen has been here but they obviously are a little slower to catch on.
The more I pay attention and the older I get, the more I realize that the "experts" are probably no more or less qualified than me or you to be an "expert". They only do research on the normal national names and teams and they are too quick to resort to the norms on teams they are unfamiliar with. Our "norm" has changed to us since Mullen has been here but they obviously are a little slower to catch on.
There are other reasons but I also think that Dak doing extremely well in the pre-season may have some effect on the predictions. He looks so much better with a quality offensive line in front of him. They have to be wondering how bad we would have been without him and how much his abilities masked our offensive weaknesses. I'm not saying it is fair to do this, just that it may be happening.
Mullen has shown consistently that he can develop quarterbacks and he should be given "some" benefit of the doubt. How much is the question.
Mullen has shown consistently that he can develop quarterbacks and he should be given "some" benefit of the doubt. How much is the question.
Preseason predictions are worth about as much as the roll of Charmin in my bathroom right now. I was watching ESPN this morning and 2 "experts" were predicting Arkansas. The final consensus was that the Razorbacks will finish 9-3, with wins over Alabama (I don't see it), Florida (I could see that), and Ole Miss (very possible). Thing is, seems like every SEC West fan base not named Alabama or LSU seems to think that their team will finish 9-3 or 10-2. I see Auburn as being the last place team this year, but I'm no "expert".
What else is new? Also not new that most of the "experts" don't know jack about what's going to happen this fall. For the most part, preseason predictions are just a recitation of last year's standings with few changes. We're one of the changes because the narrative is that we've been a 1-man team the last few years and he's gone. No doubt, we'll take a bit of a step back this year, but there is no way we finish below Auburn. I see a pretty big jumble from #3 to #6 in the West that could wind up in just about any order between Ark, A&M, MSU and UM.
Last years: http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...errated-underrated-predicted-order-of-finish/
What a bunch of dumb 17s
What a bunch of dumb 17s
I hope that Mullen wallpapers the locker room with this. The only unanimous pick is us at last in the west. Every other team is picked as high as 4th by at least one person.
Experts Past Performance
So last year out of 98 picks (14 teams x 7 'experts'), they got a grand total of 10 correct. They Overrated Missouri & Auburn tremendously and Underrated Florida and Vandy the most.
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Yes I spent half of my lunch hour doing this...
So last year out of 98 picks (14 teams x 7 'experts'), they got a grand total of 10 correct. They Overrated Missouri & Auburn tremendously and Underrated Florida and Vandy the most.
| Actual Finish | Avg Predicted Finish | +/- Perf | # of Correct Picks | |
| Florida | 1 | 4.4 | 3.4 | 0 |
| Tennessee | 2 | 2.3 | 0.3 | 2 |
| Georgia | 2 | 1.0 | (1.0) | 0 |
| Vanderbilt | 4 | 7.0 | 3.0 | 0 |
| Kentucky | 4 | 5.9 | 1.9 | 0 |
| Missouri | 7 | 2.3 | (4.7) | 0 |
| South Carolina | 7 | 4.7 | (2.3) | 0 |
| Alabama | 1 | 1.9 | 0.9 | 2 |
| Ole Miss | 2 | 4.3 | 2.3 | 1 |
| Arkansas | 3 | 4.7 | 1.7 | 1 |
| LSU | 3 | 4.7 | 1.7 | 2 |
| Texas A&M | 5 | 4.4 | (0.6) | 1 |
| Miss State | 5 | 6.6 | 1.6 | 1 |
| Aubum | 7 | 1.4 | (5.6) | 0 |
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Yes I spent half of my lunch hour doing this...
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Well if that is the case I could not blame them because that thought has crossed my mind a couple of times after seeing Dak absolutely shred a couple of pro defenses.
You are right about the worthlessness of preseason predictions. But there is the respect factor also. It'd be nice to get a little just once. One would think that over the past 6-7 seasons we would have earned a bit but instead all we earned is a perennial speculation as to whether our coach is going to leave.
Last year we were predicted to go 6-6 and finish last in the West because Dak had no talent around him and he couldn't do it alone. This year he is not here and we are predicted to finish last in the entire SEC because we lost Dak Prescott (but return most everyone else). I don't think we will do much better than 6 wins, but the media is 17'ing stupid.
Well, Dak hasn't shredded true "pro defenses" yet. Teams are running base sets and little to no scheming. Dak is going to be a good one, but there will be growing pains for him, too.
They automatically pick us last because we're Mississippi State. Until we win 2 National Championships within 5 years of each other, we will always be last.
For reasons unbeknownst to me I only like Rugb's schtick during Baseball Season. I guess because it's a more superstitious sport.
I'm glad someone else noticed that play. I was shocked as hell because I don't remember a 65 yard bomb down the middle of the field. Sure, he had some long catch and runs but I sure don't remember a 65 yarder hit in stride.
I just got back from Vegas and put 100 on MSU to win it all in football just as I did in 2014. The odds then were 175-1. I got 600-1 this year that was the highest of any power 5 team. But what amazed me was the basketball odds ...most places had the basketball team at 200-1 but MGM Gaming has them at 1000-1 ...I couldn't pull that 100 out fast enough.
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