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Red_Symptoms

Sophomore
Oct 30, 2016
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Last year we could hang our hats on playing everyone tough (I guess?). Where is that next step? Offense didn't look anymore impressive over the course of 4 quarters. As always, we had our moments of looking good and moments of wheels stuck in the mud. What is our offensive identity? Thompson looked great for one half, average the 2nd. Martinez had those games too. Running game, other than the big TD run, was bottled up.

The defense just looked flat out bad. Couldn't generate a pass rush and we were unwilling to blitz. It's pretty sad with how often we dropped 7 in coverage that they could get open receivers so often. 71% completion rate. Worn down and physically beat at the LOS in 2nd half. By Northwestern. Let that sink in.

Special teams looked better I guess. Other than the bad onside kick. Regardless of the correctness of the call (incorrect, in my opinion), he still kicked it almost right at the guy.

Where do we go from here? I don't see anything on the staff or field that makes me think this was a fluke. 4 wins looks really tough. Does anyone see any reason for optimism? How do you go a whole off-season and not have a better team that can at least beat Northwestern? If it wasn't for the transfer portal, we could legitimately be a 1 win team. The only playmakers (Thompson, Palmer, Grant, Garcia-Castaned) weren't even our own recruits. Where is our developed talent?

Sorry for the pessimism, but the reality of today's loss is just so depressing.
 
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Hford

Redshirt
Aug 11, 2020
1,959
3
0
I thought the offense would struggle early on this year, given all the new faces so I wasn't that disappointed there. Weakest link on the team continues to be the HC.
 
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thegwer

Sophomore
Aug 4, 2001
411
105
43
The special teams and penalties improved. The team needs to find some urgency to beat down the opponent when they get a lead.
 
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Hford

Redshirt
Aug 11, 2020
1,959
3
0
thegwer said:
The special teams and penalties improved. The team needs to find some urgency to beat down the opponent when they get a lead.
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Hard to do when your HC throws all your momentum away on a low percentage trick play.
 
NU65

NU65

All-American
Dec 9, 2005
53,311
8,714
113
Our defense does not tackle well or at all. NW offensive line absolutely stoned our d-line while our o-line got physically whipped at the line of scrimmage and I thought the secondary was supposed to be a talented group. After today's performance I no longer believe that to be true. I am also having some trouble coming up with six wins this year to become bowl eligible.
 
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Baxter48_rivals204143

All-Conference
Sep 22, 2010
8,892
2,089
0
With all the new offensive coaches it doesn’t seem like anything has changed, running backs still had odd rotation
offensive line didn’t see any of them driving forward just standing up, receivers why again during crucial time did we have second unit players in ? This is typical frost blueprint and best of how to choke away a game.
 
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SickOfPractice

Redshirt
Oct 10, 2021
2,997
1
0
"Does anyone see any reason for optimism?"

We continue to play teams close, within 1 score of pulling out a W.
 
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bluehousekey

Redshirt
Aug 24, 2005
54
11
0
NU65 said:
Our defense does not tackle well or at all. NW offensive line absolutely stoned our d-line while our o-line got physically whipped at the line of scrimmage and I thought the secondary was supposed to be a talented group. After today's performance I no longer believe that to be true. I am also having some trouble coming up with six wins this year to become bowl eligible.
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Defense was the biggest disappointment and surprise for me. Very concerning, was feeling like that would be a strength, boy was I wrong. Seeing those whiffs, missed tackles, out of position, gaps in secondary so receivers had no one near them. Yards after catch, yards after contact d line getting mauled. Lifeless
 
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Anon1669515999

Redshirt
Feb 2, 2014
642
5
0
We pay a special teams coach $400,000 to teach players how to fair catch. Busch did not bring in the two new kickers.
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,428
12,843
78
bluehousekey said:
Defense was the biggest disappointment and surprise for me. Very concerning, was feeling like that would be a strength, boy was I wrong. Seeing those whiffs, missed tackles, out of position, gaps in secondary so receivers had no one near them. Yards after catch, yards after contact d line getting mauled. Lifeless
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We shouldn’t be that surprised that the D has struggled early given what we lost from last years D. We have a lot of new guys playing and a couple of them are new to Chin’s system
 
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RaulJones

All-Conference
Jul 18, 2022
2,786
3,473
0
The offense has many new players and a new scheme.

That will get better.

The defense better get better.
 
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Lincoln100

All-Conference
Jun 16, 2010
12,989
2,077
0
dinglefritz said:
We shouldn’t be that surprised that the D has struggled early given what we lost from last years D. We have a lot of new guys playing and a couple of them are new to Chin’s system
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Yup. Run D certainly was going to drop off, but thought we would be okay in pass D.
 
Redscarlet

Redscarlet

Heisman
Jun 17, 2001
32,966
10,973
113
JOHNNY N said:
You don't think spealcial teams hasn't been much improved?
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No return in the punt game so that isn’t any improvement.

Looks like we have a better FG kicker but he isn’t the standard were use to having.

Punting looks to be improved after 2 games.

Kicking the ball in the end zone has been another positive. No kickoff returns for TD’s either..
 
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oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,465
2,006
113
dinglefritz said:
We shouldn’t be that surprised that the D has struggled early given what we lost from last years D. We have a lot of new guys playing and a couple of them are new to Chin’s system
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Lol okay. It's college football, you constantly have to cycle through new players. It's not an excuse to suck early, especially when other teams seem capable of starting off firing on all cylinders.
 
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JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
0
scarletred said:
No return in the punt game so that isn’t any improvement.

Looks like we have a better FG kicker but he isn’t the standard were use to having.

Punting looks to be improved after 2 games.

Kicking the ball in the end zone has been another positive. No kickoff returns for TD’s either..
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That seems vastly improved from last year.

The return game still sucks, that's for sure.
 
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oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,465
2,006
113
WV Husker1 said:
We pay a special teams coach $400,000 to teach players how to fair catch. Busch did not bring in the two new kickers.
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Exactly, complete waste of space if all we're doing is fair catching. I also don't like how often we're substituting returners. Pick one and stick with it.
 
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Anon1669515999

Redshirt
Feb 2, 2014
642
5
0
JOHNNY N said:
You don't think spealcial teams hasn't been much improved?
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The jury is still out on field goals, I firmly believe the kick offs and punting has improved, but if you don’t return punts or kick offs and just fair catch everything why would you turn around and state that Palmer, Grant, Belt and Martin are threats. Your just flapping your gums if you don’t block to get them open. Again it’s a line blocking issue.
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,428
12,843
78
oldjar07 said:
Lol okay. It's college football, you constantly have to cycle through new players. It's not an excuse to suck early, especially when other teams seem capable of starting off firing on all cylinders.
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Wasn’t offering an excuse. It’s called a reason but it doesn’t excuse the coaching.
 
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