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TulsaRising1

All-Conference
Jun 21, 2017
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4,075
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They have added some rules as well, like there will be 4 quarters instead of 2 halves, longer 3 point line, wider lanes, and a 20 sec shot clock after an offensive rebound
 

I.I.

Heisman
Dec 4, 2003
20,958
16,009
113
I like the 20 seconds after o-reb.. especially at end of game where you play good defense and the offense gets a crazy rebound. It gives the defense a better second chance. 4 quarters is fine unless it makes us substitute more.
 
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URedskin54

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Jun 13, 2005
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Don’t like the longer 3 point line or 4 quarters. The other stuff meh. Feels a lot like college football where they tinker with stuff for no real reason
 

lawpoke87

Heisman
Dec 17, 2002
166,362
20,401
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Feels more like an event put on by the NCAA to experiment with new rules than an actual tourney whose goal is to find the best college basketball team in said tourney. Moving the 3 point line from where these players have shot it for years is a big change and will effect the games.
 

Gold*

Heisman
Dec 3, 2003
63,017
11,734
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Yeah I’m with the poke. Why not have moving goals or little trampolines under the baskets, like Slamball? Let’s play with six players on a team and have two different games going on simultaneously, which would actually help the officials becuZe no one would know if it was a bad call.
 
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TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
29,576
13,860
113
Don’t like the longer 3 point line or 4 quarters. The other stuff meh. Feels a lot like college football where they tinker with stuff for no real reason
The women’s game has been doing the 4 quarters thing for a couple of seasons now. The games actually have a better rhythm and get played faster, IMO. If I recall correctly, there is no 1 and 1 FT situations and on the 5th foul of the quarter you shoot 2. There’s one media timeout at the quarter halfway point, and one between quarters, so 3 instead of 4 per half. And the longer 3 pt line might actually favor us.

I don’t like the 20 second shot clock after an offensive rebound. That’s one of those it takes a long time to adjust to things.

Then again...if we make a legit postseason tourney (i.e. NOT THE CBI), then I don’t really care what the rules are.
 
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I.I.

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I think they should bring back the red white and blue ball that Billy Tubbs beat us with in the NIT against Nolan in 1983.
 

URedskin54

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The women’s game has been doing the 4 quarters thing for a couple of seasons now. The games actually have a better rhythm and get played faster, IMO. If I recall correctly, there is no 1 and 1 FT situations and on the 5th foul of the quarter you shoot 2. There’s one media timeout at the quarter halfway point, and one between quarters, so 3 instead of 4 per half. And the longer 3 pt line might actually favor us.

I don’t like the 20 second shot clock after an offensive rebound. That’s one of those it takes a long time to adjust to things.

Then again...if we make a legit postseason tourney (i.e. NOT THE CBI), then I don’t really care what the rules are.

These things might be beneficial to us. Idk I haven’t really looked into it. I just personally like the things that make college basketball different from the NBA and don’t generally like changes that inch it closer to the nba’s style of basketball. It’s just personal preference.
 
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Larry Lewis_

All-Conference
Jun 19, 2005
1,587
2,642
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In the 1983 season, TU beat OU and Billy Tubbs in Norman. The ABA ball in the NIT that was used to beat TU at ORU was by a TCU team coached by a coach, if I remember correctly, named Killingsworth. That TCU team then won at a Byron Scott led Arizona State.

The NCAA still had, I believe, only 48 teams, so that TU team would easily have gotten an at large bid with today's expanded tourney. Beating Michael Jordan's defending champ UNC would gave been a "quality win."

TU had a brutal road trip after winning at New Mexico State on last second shot by Ricky Ross on a Thursday night. After a few plane changes, the Las Cruces to Normal journey for a noon Saturday game had Tulsa with no legs against a rugged Illinois State team in their airplane hanger.
 
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I.I.

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Dec 4, 2003
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In the 1983 season, TU beat OU and Billy Tubbs in Norman. The ABA ball in the NIT that was used to beat TU at ORU was by a TCU team coached by a coach, if I remember correctly, named Killingsworth. That TCU team then won at a Byron Scott led Arizona State.

The NCAA still had, I believe, only 48 teams, so that TU team would easily have gotten an at large bid with today's expanded tourney. Beating Michael Jordan's defending champ UNC would gave been a "quality win."

TU had a brutal road trip after winning at New Mexico State on last second shot by Ricky Ross on a Thursday night. After a few plane changes, the Las Cruces to Normal journey for a noon Saturday game had Tulsa with no legs against a rugged Illinois State team in their airplane hanger.

You're right Larry, it was Killingsworth. I remember our press was riddled with fast break points was my most vivid memory. I went to San Diego that year for the holiday tournament.
 
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Larry Lewis_

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Jun 19, 2005
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I happened to be in the Phoenix area for spring break when TCU was playing Arizona State in Tempe in the 1983 NIT, so we went to that game. Last second win by TCU if I remember correctly.
 

TU_BLA

Heisman
Mar 8, 2012
29,576
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These things might be beneficial to us. Idk I haven’t really looked into. I just personally like the things that make college basketball different from the NBA and don’t generally like changes that inch it closer to the nba’s style of basketball. It’s just personal preference.
The refs have already made it more like the NBA with the blue bloods and stars getting ridiculous foul calls.
 

JesseTU

All-Conference
Jan 8, 2007
7,392
1,595
113
Didn't we do away with the 4 Qt rule in college basketball like 15 years ago? I have to assume bringing it back helps fit more commercials in or some such nonsense.

Longer 3s reek of NBA training. I'd have to look up the stats to see if there is a crisis of 3 pointers ruining the game all of a sudden (again).

 

JesseTU

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Jan 8, 2007
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back on topic...

We are almost certainly on the outside looking in at the moment. If we win out in the regular season, I think the RPI will be around 72 and we should be in. If we lose to Temple we are probably back in the outside. Win a tournament game either way and we are probably in.

Good to be playing for something late in the season, even if it isn't the big dance.
 

ctt8410

All-Conference
Dec 4, 2003
6,845
3,872
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Longer 3s reek of NBA training. I'd have to look up the stats to see if there is a crisis of 3 pointers ruining the game all of a sudden (again).

It's debatable whether or not it's ruining the game, but 3-point attempts are at an all-time high.

3-point attempts as a percentage of all attempts.


3-point percentage
 
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ctt8410

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Dec 4, 2003
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As for this year, my guess is that the new rules are bad for us. We take a ton of 3s and layups. And we're the 12th worst shooting team in the country on 2s that aren't layups or dunks.
 

ctt8410

All-Conference
Dec 4, 2003
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Florida Gulf Coast also gets one so the 8 line is full. I think we're at the top of the 6 line right now.