NIL Caps

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Until there are caps on how much schools and boosters can spend on athletes each year, college sports have no legitimacy.

For example, there are 134 in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) for the 2024 season. It is insane to pretend the ones in the middle and bottom of their athlete recruiting budgets are competing with schools like Oregon at the top. The whole competition facade needs to end until there are caps, and while we are at it, the concept of student-athlete should go too.

The NCAA is presently irrelevant, but it is still needed to level the playing field and provide some semblance of order to this current mercenary college sports scene.

Presently teams are just buying their trophies. 🏆
 

Uncle Donny

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Until there are caps on how much schools and boosters can spend on athletes each year, college sports have no legitimacy.

For example, there are 134 in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) for the 2024 season. It is insane to pretend the ones in the middle and bottom of their athlete recruiting budgets are competing with schools like Oregon at the top. The whole competition facade needs to end until there are caps, and while we are at it, the concept of student-athlete should go too.

The NCAA is presently irrelevant, but it is still needed to level the playing field and provide some semblance of order to this current mercenary college sports scene.

Presently teams are just buying their trophies. 🏆

I agree, but I'm concerned it's not that easy. The cap will just be what's published and it'll go back to bags of cash for additional players. They enforce any rules prior to NIL. I'm not sure what would make the NIL cap any different than the previous cheating.

I think creating a limit on times you can transfer would be an easier fix. Courts might throw that out, but maybe a two year NIL package they have to fulfill before transferring again?

Not sure, but I agree it's a mess. It's free agency every year. I will admit it's only sad because we're not Oregon or Texas.
 
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I agree, but I'm concerned it's not that easy. The cap will just be what's published and it'll go back to bags of cash for additional players. They enforce any rules prior to NIL. I'm not sure what would make the NIL cap any different than the previous cheating.

I think creating a limit on times you can transfer would be an easier fix. Courts might throw that out, but maybe a two year NIL package they have to fulfill before transferring again?

Not sure, but I agree it's a mess. It's free agency every year. I will admit it's only sad because we're not Oregon or Texas.

You can’t even develop players and an overall program anymore.

James Williams began his career at Iowa Central Community College before joining the Huskers. We made him great, and then he just leaves and we have nothing to show for our time and effort.

In addition to caps, there needs to be contracts.

The present system is so insane that I can’t believe it made it this far.
 

Uncle Donny

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You can’t even develop players and an overall program anymore.

James Williams began his career at Iowa Central Community College before joining the Huskers. We made him great, and then he just leaves and we have nothing to show for our time and effort.

In addition to caps, there needs to be contracts.

The present system is so insane that I can’t believe it made it this far.


No professional league would survive with unlimited free agency. Everyone is essentially on a one year contract and can opt out of playing when they want (bowl games). Even the NFL suspends players without pay when you just opt to not play a game. How do you build a roster in this environment when you're not one of the top 5-10 NIL schools?

I get wanting the players to benefit, but to me this has swung the pendulum to far the other way. If we as fans can't get attached to players for more than a year it will take some of the fun out of it. No more irrational love of Tommy Armstrong for some on this board. Sad days....
 
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No professional league would survive with unlimited free agency. Everyone is essentially on a one year contract and can opt out of playing when they want (bowl games). Even the NFL suspends players without pay when you just opt to not play a game. How do you build a roster in this environment when you're not one of the top 5-10 NIL schools?

If your school isn’t in the top 20 in NIL, you are basically just a farm team for them. Any diamond in the rough you develop will just leave for the highest bidder.

No caps, no contracts, don’t even have to stay for a bowl—>insane.
 

oldjar07

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You can’t even develop players and an overall program anymore.

James Williams began his career at Iowa Central Community College before joining the Huskers. We made him great, and then he just leaves and we have nothing to show for our time and effort.

In addition to caps, there needs to be contracts.

The present system is so insane that I can’t believe it made it this far.
That's ********. We don't say this about higher rated recruits, nor should we for lower ranked recruits. James Williams made himself great. He had excellent frame and balance with which he could develop elite pass rushing skills.
 
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That's ********. We don't say this about higher rated recruits, nor should we for lower ranked recruits. James Williams made himself great. He had excellent frame and balance with which he could develop elite pass rushing skills.
To deny the investments programs make in the development of athletes is silly.

Frankly, I am concerned a guy like Coach Rhule, who thrived on player development, is outdated in an era of top budget teams just poaching what they need.
 

nostromo78

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you guys are making James Williams seem like Randy Gregory or Kenny Walker, but in reality, he is a walkon kid who had a sack against a ****** Rutgers team.
 

Big bo fan

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You can’t even develop players and an overall program anymore.

James Williams began his career at Iowa Central Community College before joining the Huskers. We made him great, and then he just leaves and we have nothing to show for our time and effort.

In addition to caps, there needs to be contracts.

The present system is so insane that I can’t believe it made it this far.
James Williams is a bad example if Pot roast was still here he would be . He didn’t leave because of NIL in fact he is getting little or no NIL at FSU . And he is not great.
 

oldjar07

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To deny the investments programs make in the development of athletes is silly.

Frankly, I am concerned a guy like Coach Rhule, who thrived on player development, is outdated in an era of top budget teams just poaching what they need.
I'm not denying that. I'm denying that James Williams story is any different than the myriad of 4 and 5 stars who have achieved similar results on the field. And that was only made possible through having a base level of talent and lots of development. That Williams owes this university any more than any other transfer just because he originally came from a CC, it's ********.
 

Red Express

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Well if they don't get a handle on capping what's paid and these high schooler's start making more than NFL players, The NFL ain't gonna put up with it and the NCAA will have on their hands the biggest problem they have ever ecountered. The NFL will bring the thunder.
 

raiderdad2013

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You can’t even develop players and an overall program anymore.

James Williams began his career at Iowa Central Community College before joining the Huskers. We made him great, and then he just leaves and we have nothing to show for our time and effort.

In addition to caps, there needs to be contracts.

The present system is so insane that I can’t believe it made it this far.
Great? Really. My how we look at greatness now
 

Zeke2005

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This is why a split needs to happen. Like you say stop pretending there is competition. Let the ones that want to pay big do so in a seperate group
 

ssmill777

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Until there are caps on how much schools and boosters can spend on athletes each year, college sports have no legitimacy.

For example, there are 134 in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) for the 2024 season. It is insane to pretend the ones in the middle and bottom of their athlete recruiting budgets are competing with schools like Oregon at the top. The whole competition facade needs to end until there are caps, and while we are at it, the concept of student-athlete should go too.

The NCAA is presently irrelevant, but it is still needed to level the playing field and provide some semblance of order to this current mercenary college sports scene.

Presently teams are just buying their trophies. 🏆
Greed is a destructive force.
 

mwulf

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Until there are caps on how much schools and boosters can spend on athletes each year, college sports have no legitimacy.

For example, there are 134 in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) for the 2024 season. It is insane to pretend the ones in the middle and bottom of their athlete recruiting budgets are competing with schools like Oregon at the top. The whole competition facade needs to end until there are caps, and while we are at it, the concept of student-athlete should go too.

The NCAA is presently irrelevant, but it is still needed to level the playing field and provide some semblance of order to this current mercenary college sports scene.

Presently teams are just buying their trophies. 🏆
Much like MLB
 

mgbreeze

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Until there are caps on how much schools and boosters can spend on athletes each year, college sports have no legitimacy.

For example, there are 134 in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) for the 2024 season. It is insane to pretend the ones in the middle and bottom of their athlete recruiting budgets are competing with schools like Oregon at the top. The whole competition facade needs to end until there are caps, and while we are at it, the concept of student-athlete should go too.

The NCAA is presently irrelevant, but it is still needed to level the playing field and provide some semblance of order to this current mercenary college sports scene.

Presently teams are just buying their trophies. 🏆
Caps imposed by who?
 

skintight

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What is stopping an organization from creating a contract with a player right now? it's a business opportunity. go make a business decision and offer a binding contract with noncompete clause and buy out clause.
 

Monsterback

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What is stopping an organization from creating a contract with a player right now? it's a business opportunity. go make a business decision and offer a binding contract with noncompete clause and buy out clause.
This makes too much common sense. Hopefully it will go this way, but everyone has to be bond to the same approach if one school steps out and does this on it own, it will end up with any good players.
 

MuskyHawk16

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They can’t “cap” anything, until there’s a union and CBA. The courts already established this. The only thing that could inject some form of normalcy would be transfer rules and I’m not sure who or how those would be enforced. All conferences would have to agree and call it an NCAA transfer rule or something.
 

king_kong_

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They can’t “cap” anything, until there’s a union and CBA. The courts already established this. The only thing that could inject some form of normalcy would be transfer rules and I’m not sure who or how those would be enforced. All conferences would have to agree and call it an NCAA transfer rule or something.
An elected/appointed commissioner solves this immediately.
 

SLOHusker

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That's ********. We don't say this about higher rated recruits, nor should we for lower ranked recruits. James Williams made himself great. He had excellent frame and balance with which he could develop elite pass rushing skills.
He helped us beat Rutgers to be in a bowl. I believe he would have left here with a great stat sheet. But it is what it is.