Seriously? You missed when Trump pissed on POWs and when he trashed a Gold Star family and he talked about how incompetent our military leadership is, and that he could figure out how to defeat ISIS in 30 minutes when our men and women who have dedicated their lives to it haven't?
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Seriously? You missed when Trump pissed on POWs and when he trashed a Gold Star family and he talked about how incompetent our military leadership is, and that he could figure out how to defeat ISIS in 30 minutes when our men and women who have dedicated their lives to it haven't?
Liberal brainwashing is different than making a compelling argument or encouraging thoughtful viewpoints. The fact others don't see things the way you do doesn't mean they've been brainwashed. Instead, it means they see the same information and come to a different conclusion. When someone resorts to the "brainwashing" defense, it's typically a sign they deliberately choose not to see another viewpoint. That's naivete that comes dangerously close to foolishness.
I remember when education and compromise were the American dream.
I've never particularly DISLIKED you, but when you take these extreme stances like talking about "real Americans" it's pretty nuts.
Wow...”core values” following “real Americans”...you’re super proficient with buzzwords.
Well I’m glad you can offer up such quick appraisals of me anyway. It really means a lot to me because people with such “core values” as yourself are just the type of people we should all be looking to for guidance and perspective.
It’s great you like this country...many of us do.
It is SO very sad how "education", which is basically just debate and exposure to different ideas and viewpoints and hearing from people with experience and examining your own ideas and developing them, has become a BAD thing to a group of Americans today, and how that same group tends to paint academics with this impossibly-broad brush.
I explained what I meant. You don’t agree with American values then you’re not a true American. Pretty simple
The notion that minorities are marginalized, targeted, mistreated is greatly exaggerated. It's the left cherry picking incidents to perpetuate that myth.
I was talking about the President of the United States, which a number of people on this board support.
But those same people turn on an American who is exercising the very right soldiers have died to protect (and make no mistake, Americans died to protect our right to protest) and insist said American is unAmerican and disrespecting people who that American LITERALLY said he is not disrespecting and so on and so forth.
Disagree all you want with Kaep. That's YOUR right. But too many people take it ENTIRELY too far.
Disagree when you're off the clock. Protest on your own time. I don't let my employees protest while they are representing my business. But I certainly won't stand (or kneel) in their way when they're on their own time.
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Your idea of what constitutes "American values" is entirely different than other people's ideas, and many of those other people can both articulate why the values they hold dear are American quite clearly AND can even offer support from important American documents and icons.
Many of these employers are giving their employees the opportunity to disagree while on the clock. Why shouldn't they be permitted to do so when their superiors allow it?
Citing sources is just more liberal hullabaloo. In all seriousness, to some here it often seems like opinions and knowledge share equal footing and as long as you remain as forceful as possible with your own opinion and as deaf as possible to another opinion, no matter how well-articulated, you win.
I might agree, if we weren't also saying "Hey, before you playing this game with a little ball, you also have to literally pledge yourself to a country." That seems a bit silly, when you really consider it.
So if we are going to insist on pledging ourselves to our country and it's values before playing a game, which is a REALLY serious thing to do, we should PROBABLY be okay with someone saying "I am not going to do it the way YOU might want me to do it; instead, I'm going to do it the way I, as an American, want to do it."
Sorry, are you asking who on this forum supports Donald Trump?
Pisgah, Mac, QC or whatever... I'm sure plenty do.
Through my years, I've learned that duke grads are more likely to be conservative, especially in comparison with other state schools.
Not only not my experience (I've found, in my own limited-by-me-being-one-person experiences, that the graduates from the top schools like Duke and Harvard and Yale and the like tend to be a bit more liberal than college graduates from Penn State and FSU and the like) but also doesn't quite relate to my original statement.
To explain, using an extreme example... if 90% of state school grads were liberal, and only 80% of Duke grads were liberal, I'd still stand by the statement of "Duke grads tend to lean left."
And in the specific instances of discussing politics on Duke sports forums, yeah, the Duke grads tend to lean left far more than the non-Duke grads.
You said that (and)...This is what you said..”I am entertained that the people who usually squawk the most about this guy kneeling are the same ones who defend a president who literally disrespected POWs and Gold Star families and our military leadership.” So who does both? Is what I am asking ....never mind lmao
You just need to go to your safe space, if it gets too rough for you.
Pisgah is literally calling people he disagrees with not American.
He is also a big Trump fan.
There are others.
Out of everything to quote here you pick that ? Okkkkkk??? I’ll consider it
See, I enjoy IPsych in these arguments, because he never seems to get too fired up and seriously angry.
I've reconsidered, and you guys are right. I overreacted and I apologize to all involved, especially Sky.
We need the lounge.
We need the lounge.
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I got drawn in too! Don’t feel bad ! I stated I hated this threaad, and it would end up this way from the beginning. And yes I pat myself on the back @Dahntay#1 Or howerver you spell his name lmao
Because those owners are a part of an association. The collective group makes the rules for their employees. They agreed that all employees will stand for the anthem if they're on the field. They have the right to stay in the lockerroom if they want. But the rule is, if you're on the field, you stand. The NFL wants a certain image. You can disagree with that image. But if you're an employee, you'll adhere to it or you won't be an employee. And then you'll have all the time in the world to kneel, stand, or do the hokey-pokey during the anthem.
It may be. But it's the rule. Follow it or find a new job.
The NFL wants uniformity. And it's their right to have it. Again, if you don't like it, find a new job.
I've read Sky's posts for many year. He seems like a guy with a huge heart that would never purposely offend anyone. I think he just meant for his post to get some laughs, just like SNL does with anyone who is in office. People today are way too sensitive. Great joke Sky! I lmao, lol!!!
I wasn't going to post in this thread, mainly because no opinions are going to change or be swayed. It will just go in a circle until it's locked......but I do want to come in and say that I do not believe Sky had any ill intent, meant to start an argument, or wanted to watch fireworks. I believe it was just meant to be funny.....and in my opinion, it was......no matter which side you're on.
Hence me jokingly saying post of the year. It’s called humor. Some need to get some..
I remember starting a similar thread myself on a different topic, they I thought would be viewed the same by the vast majority, but it wasn't. I was surprised by the insults and arguement that it started, and I regretted starting the thread......but just for clarity.....I still stand by what I said!!!
It is VERY hard to tell these days... I don't think any of us would be surprised if some people would legit think that is the post of the year.
Duke 91 I was already getting scared of you coming here and quoting me out of everything here to quote.... I may take your advice now and go to hiding....”lol lmao”. Got like a fascination with me or something...get me out of your mind for one post!? Lmao
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I said Christianity has lost its roots, not the USA. My post had nothing to do with whether or not the US was/is supposed to be a Christian nation. When the Church and State get in bed together, it's the Church that suffers. The early Christian movement was one that owes its existence to being anti-State and anti-imperialism. It's launch directly opposed the rule of the State.
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