****Nike Hoop Summit Game Thread****
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Did any of you guys watch. Mitch. McGary in HS? He was older than his class but was a bull down low, Wynyard is much like him but a little less offensively skilled at this point.
As for Maker.....I stand by what I said last year about him. Big project and so weak, no where near top 10 talent and I wouldn't even give him that 5th star. He might be a player 10 yrs from now in the league if he develops and gets a heck of a lot stronger but he is not worthy of a scholly if you want someone who is going to contribute from day 1.
Brown is like I have stated before, nice athletic talent but is not really a 3 but more of a 4, can't shoot a lick from outside but his athleticsm is a given.
Of course people rank on different principles, like young guys rank on how good you can dunk while I rank on how good can you play ball.
As for Maker.....I stand by what I said last year about him. Big project and so weak, no where near top 10 talent and I wouldn't even give him that 5th star. He might be a player 10 yrs from now in the league if he develops and gets a heck of a lot stronger but he is not worthy of a scholly if you want someone who is going to contribute from day 1.
Brown is like I have stated before, nice athletic talent but is not really a 3 but more of a 4, can't shoot a lick from outside but his athleticsm is a given.
Of course people rank on different principles, like young guys rank on how good you can dunk while I rank on how good can you play ball.
Ok, but you are the one who typed Newman is a starting NBA guard now [/B].
I'm not sure how many NBA scouts think Newman is NBA ready today, April 11th, 2015, but you are entitled to your opinion. I think he will be a pro one day. I also think he will be kind of a tweener due to his size at 6'3 and not a pure point guard so he may have to play the 2, which he will here, should he come.
He would be our best offensive 3 we have had since? He would help make us a legit threat to win it all, especially if we got Newman and Zim. Those three would pretty much take care of our needs. Briscoe is better than thought and you can tell Skal will be big most games.
Man CANE with you logic then, Jamal Murray is ALL NBA. No way in any way shape or form would Newman start in the NBA. NONE. Any NBA starting 2 guard right now would have had 50pts in todays game, easy. James Harden? 70pts.
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/237386/Notes-From-The-2015-Nike-Hoop-Summit
Malik Newman: Newman is an outstanding perimeter shooter with good rise and consistent mechanics. Newman has good body control with his handle, but his penetration is typically setup by defenders honoring his jumper than being able to break down his man. Newman lacks the needed size to be a typical NBA shooting guard and isn't a very gifted passer at this point in his development.
Newman had a good sequence in the second quarter where he hit a three-pointer from NBA range and then hit a runner in transition.
By the way, did you ever take that up in the other thread who accepted your bravado $100 bet?
Ingram, Newman, & Zimmerman for me as well. Would really love to have these 3. Maker did not impress me at all. Brown would be the 4th pick for me.
I disagree..
Looking at the top recruits since Cal has been here I'd rate this 2015 class as follows:
Centers - Next to last
PF - Next to last
SF - Next to last
SG - 4th out of 7
PG - 5th out of 7
2015
Skal, Stone, Swannigan
2014
Okafor, Turner, Towns
2013
Embiid, Johnson, Mica
2012
Noel, Austin, Tarc
2011
Drummond, Birch, Christmas
2010
Melo, Smith, Kanter
2009
Cousins, Plumlee, Gallon
Power Forwards
2015
Simmons, Ellison, Rabb
2014
Alexander, Lyles, Looney
2013
Randle, Gordon, Martin
2012
Bennett, Jarrett, Ashley
2011
AD, McAdoo, Miller
2010
Sullinger, Harris, Jones
2009
Favors, Henson, Sidney
Small Forward
2015
Brown, Ingram, Jones
2014
Johnson, Jackson, Pinson (Oubre and Winslow next 2)
2013
Wiggins, Parker, Young
2012
Muhammad, Anderson, Poythress
2011
MKG, Thomas, Nash
2010
Barnes, Jones, Thomas
2009
Hamilton, Jennings, Johnson
Shooting Guard
2015
Newman, Blakeney, Trier
2014
Russell, Whitehead, Booker
2013
Harrison, Bird, Johnson
2012
Smart, Harris, Sulaiman
2011
Rivers, Beal, Hairston
2010
Barton, Waiters, Bullock
2009
Bradley, Henry, Boynton
Point Guards
2015
Briscoe, Brunson, Adams
2014
Jones, Mudiay, Berry
2013
Harrison, Hill, Jordan (Williams-Goss, Tyler Ennis, Jackson of ND next 3)
2012
Paige, Dunn, Ferrell
2011
Teague, Kabongo, Turner
2010
Irving, Knight, Selby
2009
Wall, Gaddy, Wayns
ESPN rankings*
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LIked Zimmermann and Ingram the most. Newman also very good. Maker (only time I've seen him) looked very, very average .. certainly don't like him for this class if Cal is only going to add 2/3 more.
I am with many others on this thread..Give me Ingram, Zimmerman and Newman and if we take four, make it Diallo. Jaylen Brown can't shoot a lick.
Stone should have been in this game over Jeter probably swainagin too. As the announcers have said though USA Bball isnt dealing with any more dudes with questionable attitudes, which Stone has been said to have. This years bigs as a whole are very weak. Aside from Skal and maybe Stone none of these guys are game changers.
It couldn't hurt to actually watch the kids play in college before we judge where they rank. After all, before the season, Karl-Anthony Towns (for example) was known to be incredibly soft, and wasn't projected to go very high in the draft, and we all see how that turned out..