Some anonymous Dr. who "trained at the Mayo Clinic" is all I can see. Not exactly a peer reviewed article. Twitter and Facebook are the devil's spawn.
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Thanks. I don't much faith in the mainstream peer reviewers. They're mostly government shills who belly up to the government trough.
Not necessarily true. I've known some extremely bright medical educators who reviewed articles. The point of having something peer reviewed is to have some one point out flaws in the research or analysis of the results. As we saw with that cardiology study from Germany that shut down B1G football, somebody needs to lend a critical eye to the process. There was a lot of crappy information that was given out early with COVID. I still can't shake the images of the dipshits in New York going on and on about not touching your face or you'll get COVID. If you don't want us to pick our noses just say it.
IN THE PAST, the CDC was the end all be all for public health. Fauci destroyed that trust with the way he politicized his office.
Too many government bureaucracies have been politicized. My biggest problem with this mess is that it's been politicized from the very start. How can one feel comfortable trusting an agency that swings one way or the other? We're two sides of the same coin here, it's their job to remain in the middle.
I'm no anti Vax person but I do believe that people should have the freedom to choose rather than being forced to do things with the penalty of "or else". That's not freedom and that's not America, you can go ahead and throw your flags away if it is.
There is some history of vaccine mandates in this country. That said, there's a huge amount of misleading information demonizing the vaccines. It's a risk versus benefit assessment and right now the risk from vaccination is likely at least a thousand if not thousands of times safer than contracting COVID. It isn't arguable. It's a fact. That said, there is obviously some risk and as such people shouldn't be mandated to get vaccinated. IF for some stupid reason they try to mandate that children get COVID vaccine, there will be hell to pay.
Why won't these bigots just submit and get the jab? The Supreme virtuous, Dr fauci is the most itelligent human ever. He definitely never thought aids was airborne months after it was discovered not to be.
it’s Reuters so take it for what it’s worth but not everyone is required to get the jab in govt.
If those in the Executive Branch have a negative test they are. do not need to be vaccinated. The FDA and CDC have 60% vaccinated and if the others can prove through a negative test.
Congress and its staffers are in the Legislative branch and are not mandated to take the vaccine. I assume if Congress refuses to mandate it for themselves, and they make the laws, not Resident Biden, then there is no mandate.
Reuters is super unreliable. Using google is also nothing but Govt spin.
Since the law is the law, and Congress passes those laws, since they refuse to mandate themselves, it might be tough for them to mandate a law for citizens.
Considering 2 MILLION illegals have been given an exemption. There might be a slight uproar in this country.
Thanks baseball.
TLDR. Only commenting because I'm intrigued.
This vaccination witch hunt is absolutely a way too far reaching liberal agenda.
This vaccination witch hunt is absolutely a way too far reaching liberal agenda.
In your opinion why doesn't natural immunity count for anything? Sounds like if you have had the Shanghai Shivers there is no real reason to get a vaccine unless you are possibly older and need a little boost. Is this correct?
A small percentage of pts who died of covid would have died within weeks/months of more common etiologies (‘advanced age/dementia/end stage diseases). The vast majority of pts who died due to covid would not have died of other causes within the year. Covid wiped out 100s of thousands of our friends and family members who had life left to live. Then add in non covid deaths due to rolling surges that overwhelmed the hospital systems (pts avoiding hospitals, surgeries delayed, no ICU beds), and it adds up to the biggest jump in mortality in generations.
Those that sadly will be wiped out will be the result of the non-vaccines, in addition to the "normal" causes of death.
So far, Covid is only the #3 cause of death in ths US. Heart attack and cancer are still the leading causes.
Please read the report from yesterday to Representative Comer from the NIH and the admission of the lying to Congress, the American people, those like YOU. Anyone who buys the mainstream lies is responsible for their own demise.
Your hero, Dr. Fauci was responsible for funding the gain-of-function. You know, funding the way to see the most effective way to spread this virus from person to person.
The government has been waging an information war against its own people. Pitting you against me. Vaxxed vs. non-vaxxed. Remember, if you're old enough, the first casualty of war is the TRUTH.
When you finally discover the truth, you will be outraged. But, don't look for that truth to appear in the mainstream drivel.
Colin Powell had cancer and thus was compromised. The vaccine works. Perhaps you will be luckier than Gen Powell.
I'm not sure I trust any big news outlet anymore and it doesn't matter the side. All are corrupt and all push their own "fake news agenda".
I am vaxxed have been for months. But to play devil's advocate. I have a good friend. She is in her upper 30's no underlying health issues and very much in shape and a gym rat. It I wasn't beer belly football fanatic I would definitely ask her out.
Anyways she got the vaccine the 2 shot last spring. A month ago she got sick tested positive for covid. Then was hospitalized and developed sepsis. She was touch and go for quite awhile. I am no health expert or professional but personal experience has made me question the vaccine effectiveness.
Natural immunity absolutely counts big time in my opinion. That said, it doesn't appear that naturally acquired immunity lasts all that much longer than vaccination immunity. Personally IF I would have had COVID and survived it with minimal distress I would be very reluctant to get vaccinated. That said, my wife who is the expert not just in my house but in our geographic area disagrees with me. She doesn't believe natural immunity lasts any longer than vaccination immunity and she recommends that all of her patients get vaccinated regardless of whether or not they had COVID. IF you had COVID over 6 months ago, there is some question about how good your protection from re-infection is. Personally I would feel pretty comfortable out to about a year but my wife disagrees with me on that. She's the one treating COVID patients every day.
I've found Reuters to be pretty middle of the road and trust their reporting on foreign matters probably more than the AP etc. Reuters is still a news service and isn't in the entertainment/news business like NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and Fox. MSNBC shouldn't even call themselves any type of news. Anybody that hires all of the disgraced liars they've hired shouldn't be trusted about anything.
Of the mainstream media. There are a ton of sites out there that report real news. Talking about them is like speaking a foreign language to those who always go to the normal spin machines.
Reuters is based in the UK.
So then your reflections upon the Reuters article on federal government vaccination requirements for workers? Thanks sir
I pay ZERO attention to what Reuters, ABC, etc and any "news site" that is left-leaning or far left.
I wonder if dinglefritz thinks that Fauci being PROVEN yesterday as to lying to Congress, and the American people was covered on any mainstream sites.
I can answer that for him. NO.
I know dingle has said several times that Fauci's dishonesty has hurt the whole provess, so I will give dingle props for that.
Back to where I said NO, this was not covered by ANY mainstream press or publication. How can I say that? Because I have proof.
There were only 16 media or news organizations that reported the letter saying that Fauci and Collins lied, and they were all on right leaning or far right leaning sites.
What were those sites? Just The News, Real Clear Politics, Hot Air, Red Slate. Washington Examiner, The Ohio Star, Breitbart, The Federalist, The National Review, The Daily Caller, The Gateway Pundit, InfoWars, Twitchy, News Wars, and WND.
Now for those lefties who never leave the mainstream propaganda machine, why would not ONE of those sites talk or publicize about this topic?
Because it upsets their narrative. It would prove they were lying to their viewers.
Just The News is a site by John Solomon, one of best reporters anywhere. There are others that even those lefties should recognize. Do I believe in discrediting sites that I am not familiar with? Only if they don't report the truth.
That's why I don't take crap from lefties that are mind conditioned by the mainstream garbage. If the news is news, report it. I use my source to check out which sites are running stories or reporting on which stories.
If there's a hit piece on Trump or Bannon you can be assured its being heavily reported by the main stream. But my source lists every single media or news organization that reports that story.
Thanks.
Doesn't matter. Pretty much everything that he and his buddies have said regarding Covid and the vaccines is completely false. They aren't interested in providing evidence of anything. They don't care about facts. Those just get in the way of the narrative.
Then prove what I said is incorrect. The evidence is the truth.
You believe Fauci, or Collins, or Walensky, or Danszak, or Birz? If you do, you are are being played for a fool.
I don't see you making an effort to try to disprove anything I've said. You just parrot whatever the mainstream has indocrinated you to say and think.
If you think a product developed by a large pharmaceutical company, paid for by taxpayer money, with no liability, and a mandate for those to take this experimental cocktail, and do it with the threat of jobs and homes and families, then you are may as well live in a fascist country.
What pi**es you off is, the narrative is beginning to turn. More and more people are finally awakening to the scam that has been dominating this country for a year and a half, is weakening. People are challenging it.
People are saying, "prove it." You can't prove crap, because you live in a world where Joy Reid and Jake Tapper and Lester Holt lead you around by the ring in your nose.
Fauci is your big dog. Don't forget, one dog can herd a lot of sheep.
Disprove what? That you are ideologically impaired and spew nonsense and espouse opinions that are driven solely by ridiculous conspiracy theories? That your psyche is warped by a pathological distrust of every institution that doesn't cater to your views on the world? Sorry. No can do. No one can. Seriously. Get help.
I don't have an ideology, I deal in truth, not what the media TELLS me to think.
If you ever got out of your protective media bubble, it would scare the **** outta you. That's why you've wrapped yourself around what used to be the majority of group think.
I've read your phony information for 2 days, now you're outta bullets, and have nothing left to say, or at least, until you watch the evening News.
You disrespect myself and others based on a bunch of lies told to you by your savior Fauci. I don't understand how someone can be lied to for over a year and not be pissed that they fed you nothing but misinformation.
The truth is gonna come out. When? No one knows. When it does, I'll be ready to accept your apology with no hard feelings.
Remember, continue to watch your mainstream news. Just don't forget that virtually all news you will read or see is sponsored by Pfizer.
When the shtf, and its not far away, all those medical people that are responsible for keeping you healthy, are gonna be home taking care of their loved ones. Try to get ahead on your prescriptions as far as you possibly can, there are going to be shortages and out of stocks.
I'm not saying that to be a prick. I'm just suggesting this because you and I obviously think differently. You're gonna see shortages of food, rationing of food, and food riots.
The day will come when you don't need an ID to vote, but you will need one to buy food. Smile and think I'm full of it. We will see.
Learn to listen to history. We're fixing to live it again.
We should be done now.
There can be multiple reasons for vaccine failures. For one you can't tell how competent somebody's immune system just by looking at them. My standard answer when people question the vaccine based on anecdotal evidence such as this is that vaccination is not 100% but the odds are that if she got this sick, she would have likely died if she had not been vaccinated. My spouse sees it over and over again. Vaccinated people tend to either not get hospitalized or go home earlier than people who are not vaccinated. The vast majority of people dying from COVID in her experience have been unvaccinated. Sepsis is generally a bacterial infection and in this case would have likely been secondary to COVID but it sounds as if it dramatically worsened her illness.
What is not false is that many of them receive government research dollars. It's okay to question peer reviewers but in my experience they are highly educated extremely bright people doing their best to convey correct information.
You know dude, we're on a public forum, so watch your step.Ok. So which one is you again?
I've reduced you to posting a picture. Powerful comeback when you got nuthin'.
Once again, you and I can disagree. But, at least we try to do it respectfully.
That's a lot more than others with different opinions.
Obviously, I do not disagree with the Sepsis, that's nasty ****.
Fortunately, she was young and healthy.
What you need is Bert Bielema's bank account.