Nick Fitzgerald as a 1st round pick.....

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
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Fitz's stats and measurables are incredibly similar to Josh Allen's, and hes a far superior athlete. Just has to show he can make some NFL throws, which I believe Moorhead will give him the chance to do.
 

jethreauxdawg

Heisman
Dec 20, 2010
12,083
17,714
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If Sweat is a 3rd rounder

I think we will all be disappointed with this next season. I'm trying not to get too wooly, but I expect Sweat to show out this year.
 

TwelvePackSmack

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
97
2
8
Agree with you. Absolutely shocked to see that prediction. Poor mechanics, inaccurate, inability to read coverages. Only thing he has going is above average speed for a QB.
 

BiscuitEater

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Aug 29, 2009
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Fitz's stats and measurables are incredibly similar to Josh Allen's, and hes a far superior athlete. Just has to show he can make some NFL throws, which I believe Moorhead will give him the chance to do.

Am definitely sporting my 'maroon glasses' .. BUT have to think that Fitz's passing numbers WILL improve for couple of reasons ..

'17's WR corps has to have improved (or, they won't play) .. '18 group has WAY more talent .. increased confidence in WRs, TEs & RBs ability to catch the throws .. less predictable & varied offense .. vertical passing game opens MORE pass options .. Fitz has more experience + more passing options = better pass %.

Actually think that Fitz running less .. makes him a WAY more dangerous runner .. when he does keep it on the RPO.
 

johnson86-1

All-American
Aug 22, 2012
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Agree with you. Absolutely shocked to see that prediction. Poor mechanics, inaccurate, inability to read coverages. Only thing he has going is above average speed for a QB.

He has well above average speed for a Qb, and he's got a good build as far as height and being sturdy enough to take a beating, and he seems to have sufficient arm strength. Not taht there aren't plenty of guys fitting that description who don't get close to the field as an NFL qb, but he's got more going for him than above average speed for a Qb.
 

5049

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Dec 3, 2017
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Holy hell, did I count that right, FOUR defensive linemen for Clemson? And one OT for good measure
 

5049

Redshirt
Dec 3, 2017
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He may end up going the Matt Jones route but what I take from this is that there are publications saying MSU may have a QB and two DL drafted in the first round

I might have to repeat that again in order to believe it
 

BlueRidgeMtns

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2016
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Sweat will be an early 2nd round pick or a late 1st round pick depending on how the season goes.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,779
24,660
113
Fitz doesn't have that arm though. You don't see many dudes throwing a ball 80 yards.
 

ezsoil

Junior
May 26, 2013
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285
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Agree with you. Absolutely shocked to see that prediction. Poor mechanics, inaccurate, inability to read coverages. Only thing he has going is above average speed for a QB.

Well one thing I see Fitz as is a football player...I remember hearing on XM radio one day where one guy was praising Mullen for developing Fitz into the player he was...and the second guy says wait a minute....when you look at Fitz in high school ..you saw a 6’5” 240 guy who ran a 4.4 40 who was willing to return punts, play wide receiver and do anything to get on the field.... he pointed out if you sign him as a QB and he doesn’t cut it, you have a beast with great measurables who can play a number of positions and he is willing to do what it takes to play football..it didn’t take a genius to figure out you have a football player... .while I don’t see him as a first round pick....I do see him as someone I would want in my organization.
 
Nov 12, 2007
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And no one around here thought Dak would make the NFL either.

I think the new offense and new WR corps will make a lot of people change their minds before we get to the next draft.
 

vandaldawg

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Feb 23, 2008
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I think we will all be disappointed with this next season. I'm trying not to get too wooly, but I expect Sweat to show out this year.

Agree. And maybe moreso because with Chauncey Rivers coming on the other end, I don't think there is going to be anybody on the line that other teams can afford to double team. Montez should feast.
 

jack daniels dog

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Feb 11, 2013
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Hold on. Just got around to reading this link. He actually predicted Shea Patterson in first round (I don’t see him getting drafted he’s a damn midget) and Simmons lasting past top 15. I am now dumber from having read this link, and may god have mercy on the writers soul.
 

Sutterkane

Redshirt
Jan 23, 2007
5,100
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Fitz doesn't go round 1 unless we win the SEC and are in the playoff. He'll have to have improved immensely in the passing department.

I doubt he will get drafted honestly. He's not awful but he's not NFL caliber at this point. Not even close. NFL teams aren't looking for passing project QBs from senior, 3 year starters.

I could easily see him playing as a WR or receiving TE though. He's got the toughness and size to throw blocks at the LOS and of course the speed and athleticism to catch the ball.

That's nothing against the guy; I love Fitz and have been a Fitz guy since he beat out the other 2 that transferred.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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o_1984Dawg

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Feb 23, 2008
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As someone who saw both play last year, Fitz is nowhere close to Josh Allen. No way he goes in the first round.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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As someone who saw both play last year, Fitz is nowhere close to Josh Allen. No way he goes in the first round.

Eh I don’t know what you saw but I’ve seen draft film and the only difference is Allen probably has a little bit more arm strength and that he had better receivers which should warrant giving Dan Mullen a swift kick in the Nuts for his lazy BS. They are both inaccurate at times. Allen is horribly inaccurate with any rush and completed 56.2 % of his throws. He’s gonna be a huge Bust in the NFL IMO.
 
Nov 12, 2007
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Agree. And maybe moreso because with Chauncey Rivers coming on the other end, I don't think there is going to be anybody on the line that other teams can afford to double team. Montez should feast.

Yep. Rivers, Sweat and Jeffery all on the line. That's too damned much blocking required by opposing teams.
 

BiscuitEater

Redshirt
Aug 29, 2009
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As someone who saw both play last year, Fitz is nowhere close to Josh Allen. No way he goes in the first round.

Explanation needed. Both are ~6-5, 240. Both have strong arms. Both were ~55% passers last year. BUT, Fitz was only a JR, played against WAY better defenses .. ran for ~1000 yards, 14 TDs, was clearly able to avoid sacks better (13 vs 26). Only stat that stands out in favor is Allen had fewer INTs (6 to 11).

Where is Fitz 'nowhere close to Allen?'




PASSINGRUSHING
EFFCOMPATTINTPCTTDLGAVG/G RUSHGAINLOSSNETAVGTD LGAVG/G
ALLEN127.8152270656.31647164.7923851812042.252218.5
FITZ117.51592861155.61562148.51621041579846.1144582

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Ranchdawg

All-Conference
Dec 13, 2012
4,781
4,036
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Plus, he was forbidden to throw the ball long

Explanation needed. Both are ~6-5, 240. Both have strong arms. Both were ~55% passers last year. BUT, Fitz was only a JR, played against WAY better defenses .. ran for ~1000 yards, 14 TDs, was clearly able to avoid sacks better (13 vs 26). Only stat that stands out in favor is Allen had fewer INTs (6 to 11).

Where is Fitz 'nowhere close to Allen?'




PASSINGRUSHING
EFFCOMPATTINTPCTTDLGAVG/GRUSHGAINLOSSNETAVGTDLGAVG/G
ALLEN127.8152270656.31647164.7923851812042.252218.5
FITZ117.51592861155.61562148.51621041579846.1144582

<tbody>
</tbody>

Mullen preferred a ball control offense and hated the long ball.
 

o_1984Dawg

Redshirt
Feb 23, 2008
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I'm not an expert, but one looked like an NFL QB, one didn't. One seemed like he could read a defense pretty well, and one, frankly, doesn't.

Hell, I'd never heard of Josh Allen before I saw him play. I didn't know Wyoming had a QB who was a draft prospect, but after a few drives, he looked like an NFL QB so I looked him up. I wasn't shocked to see he was projected as an early first rounder.

I'm not here to bash Fitz. I think he's a great college QB, and I'd rather have him than Josh Allen. But as far as draft prospects, not even close.
 

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
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Fitz has come a long way but don't see it...

I honestly didn't (and still don't) think he would get drafted and this person has him going in the 1st round.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...llers-way-too-early-predictions?share=twitter

Also, I think Montez Sweat will be a late 2nd round/3rd round pick. I could see Simmons going in the 1st round.

Nick is a very good college QB but his skill set is not what the NFL is looking for. I also have some trepidation about the upcoming season. We have tons of experience back on both sides of the ball but it is the first year of a completely new coaching staff. So we will have an offense that has had one spring to learn an entirely new scheme, a QB that was recruited and groomed for the old scheme and was limited in spring practice by recovery from a serious injury.. That seems to me to be a recipe for having to overcome a lot of mistakes and a limited playbook. I think we will have a good team and win a lot of games but I think its going to be tough to reach our true potential.
 

maroonmania

All-Conference
Feb 23, 2008
11,389
1,165
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Um What? He’s got a damn good arm. Hell his problem he’s got too much arm on Many of his throws. How many 80 yard completions have you seen?

What made Dak to be Dak for us, and what Fitz is often missing is accuracy with ball placement and touch on throws where a pass has to be dropped in a spot. Fitz is great on throws where he can just throw a rope based on arm strength. But you can't do that on a lot of throws because balls have to be placed between defenders or you have to hit a guy on the fly where he can run up under the pass. Those are the passes that Dak could make that Fitz currently struggles with.
 

Msubulldogfan1

Freshman
Sep 12, 2013
8,835
80
48
He has all the measurables checked off, I think that alone gets him drafted, if he completes 62% or better, who knows.
 

aTotal360

Heisman
Nov 12, 2009
22,659
16,669
113
The Josh Allen comparisons might not be doing him any favors come next years draft.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,779
24,660
113
But Allen might have to strongest arm in the NFL. It’s either him or Stafford. It’s the type of thing that scouts and GM fall in love with.

I don’t think Fitz’s arm strength will hurt him, but Im not sure he’s in the “strongest arm in the NFL” discussion.
 

esplanade91

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2010
5,656
0
0
The Josh Allen comparisons might not be doing him any favors come next years draft.
My thoughts exactly. Would love to be wrong but Josh Allen had no business being drafted that early or in the first round all together. Bills took a major flyer on a guy they openly admit (by signing a veteran ahead of him) is not ready to be an NFL starter.

Saying Fitz and Allen have a lot in common isn't doing Fitz any favors. Hell, Dak slid in the draft because of his (fair) comparison to Tebow and Tebow was a 1st round pick. The takeaway there is that Josh McDaniel was a moron.
 
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