Nick Fitz Iz a Bad Dude

Msubulldogfan1

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I hope his passing has improved. Gonna be tougher without Fred Ross. I know it was just a spring game but 4 INTs in the first half is rough.

He's a bad mofo no doubt and we will have to live with some TOs, but hopefully that are limited.
 

DerHntr

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The TAMU TD run and the OM highlights are the best memories of the season for me.

Glad to see you came out of hiding.
 

KurtRambis4

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No doubt, having Ross

is better than not having Ross, but I think folks are discounting Gray. Hell he had 700+ yards last year, as a secondary option. Given that he's healthy all season, I don't think it's too much to expect 800-900 yards.
 

Carbaryl

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is better than not having Ross, but I think folks are discounting Gray. Hell he had 700+ yards last year, as a secondary option. Given that he's healthy all season, I don't think it's too much to expect 800-900 yards.

This is what is so funny about the doom and gloom about Ross being gone.There were a number of pro scouts at our pro day that said Gray is more highly thought of than Ross was/is.Gray just needed that big year as a senior to solidify himself.
 

CochiseCowbell

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Good stuff as usual, Sterling. The music was an interesting choice. PM me for suggestions.**

Also, I know Fitz did the limp land shark thing in the Egg Bowl. But, what exactly was he doing all year. Is it kinda like a Mile High Salute? Him wearing 7 & the Bronco fan boy in me hopes it is.
 

boatsandhoes

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There is an art/natural ability to being a standout WR in the Sec. Ross had that. He knew how to create separation, or get himself to holes in a secondary. it's not a simple as running good routes, it's more of knowing how to set up the break to get separation where you use the route tree possibilities to deceive the DB. Maybe grey has that, and I hope he does. We will miss Fred, I guarantee it.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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is better than not having Ross, but I think folks are discounting Gray. Hell he had 700+ yards last year, as a secondary option. Given that he's healthy all season, I don't think it's too much to expect 800-900 yards.
You're right, I like gray a lot and think he puts up good numbers this year. But he's not a true #1 SEC WR option like some other teams have.

Not to take anything away from him bc I think he's legit SEc caliber. Just not Julio, treadwell, Ridley, any LSU WR type player. We need either couch or whichever other big WR/TE to be opposite him. If that doesn't happen, we better have a hellacious running game, which I expect we will.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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There is an art/natural ability to being a standout WR in the Sec. Ross had that. He knew how to create separation, or get himself to holes in a secondary. it's not a simple as running good routes, it's more of knowing how to set up the break to get separation where you use the route tree possibilities to deceive the DB. Maybe grey has that, and I hope he does. We will miss Fred, I guarantee it.

One thing Gray has is his ability to play the ball and snatch that SOB out the air. If it hits his hands, he's catching it.
 

klong-dog

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I loved Ross but I bet he was top 5 in the nation, possibly number 1, in dropped passes on the season.
 

HaleStater

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I think some of y'all are misremembering Ross. He had to have had to have lead the nation in most dropped passes. It was at crucial times as well. When Fitz would hit him between the numbers and he needed a completion he'd drop it. His numbers were good to great while here but I'll remember his crucial drops. That's a big reason he didn't get drafted. You can't have a possession receiver who can't possess the ball.
 

gymdawg.sixpack

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Agreed. It was obvious ross didnt work hard on his game throughout his career. Its hard to blame a loss on 1 play but he had the easiest of catches dropped vs byu that woulda won that gm. He dropped passes all yr to the extent lots of us thought it was on purpose. We'll be fine on offense. Defense will be much improved. We win 9
 

GhostOfJackie

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I have no doubt that Gray is a good receiver, but we are going to need more receivers than just Gray to win more then 6-7 games this year. Somebody might step up, but that's my #1 concern on offense this year. We need the tall, lanky receiver like Ross, Wilson etc that can get above a DB and make a catch when we need it on third down. That's why missing out on guys like AJ Brown might come back to bite us in the ***.

I hope somebody steps up. The Mullen offense doesn't depend on big time receivers like some offenses on the SEC do, but having that one big time receiver is the difference in a 7 win season and a 9 win season, and so far that is an unknown. Just my take....
 
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Junction John

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I call dibs on the GiveEmFitz heisman campaign bumper stickers**

Or maybe that should replace #runthedamnball


How can I get paid every time someone tweets a hashtag?
 

kired

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You serious? I agree he had a lot of drops... I personally think it's a mental thing, kind of like errors in baseball. Once you make a couple it just gets in your head. But I hope you really won't remember his drops more than everything else he did. I know he benefited from playing in a different offense and better QB than any of the other great WRs in our history, but his name is all over our record books.

#1 career rec. yards and receptions
Tied #2 career TDs
Tied #1 single season TDs (2016, when he had so many drops and still led the SEC)
#1 and #3 single season receptions
#2 single season yards (1 of only 2 1000+ yard seasons in school history)
5 games with 10+ receptions his last two season... there have only been 13 other 10+ reception games in school history by guys not named Fred Ross

Also the only guy we could find to field a punt without giving us a heart attack every time.
 

TheStateUofMS

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Seriously, who made the music for this vid? Marshmello is about as bad as the Chainsmokers. Chainsmokers are in a league of their own with up their with Nickelback.
 

RiverCityDawg

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You're right, I like gray a lot and think he puts up good numbers this year. But he's not a true #1 SEC WR option like some other teams have.

Not to take anything away from him bc I think he's legit SEc caliber. Just not Julio, treadwell, Ridley, any LSU WR type player. We need either couch or whichever other big WR/TE to be opposite him. If that doesn't happen, we better have a hellacious running game, which I expect we will.

But we've never had one of those guys and most teams don't. Gray will put up #1 receiver numbers just like Ross, Derunnya, Tubby and Bumphis before him. None of those guys are NFL caliber though. Our issue isn't with Replacing Ross, it's who will be #2 and #3. I think Mixon will have a big year as #2 (Tubby, but faster), beyond that we need someone to step up as #3 and for depth. I don't think it will be Myles. Dear will be a boost when he's healthy but he plays the same position as Mixon. It has to be Couch or Todd and I'm not sure either will be ready for that role this year.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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But we've never had one of those guys and most teams don't. Gray will put up #1 receiver numbers just like Ross, Derunnya, Tubby and Bumphis before him. None of those guys are NFL caliber though. Our issue isn't with Replacing Ross, it's who will be #2 and #3. I think Mixon will have a big year as #2 (Tubby, but faster), beyond that we need someone to step up as #3 and for depth. I don't think it will be Myles. Dear will be a boost when he's healthy but he plays the same position as Mixon. It has to be Couch or Todd and I'm not sure either will be ready for that role this year.
Bear was definitely that guy and a huge reason we had the year we did in 2014.

If we want to have another one of those years, we need another Bear/Ross duo
 

boatsandhoes

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No doubt. He's got really strong hands.

I hope he can learn to use his body to shield a little more. Derunnya did a great job with that, but being 6'5" 220 helps a lot.
 

HaleStater

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You serious? I agree he had a lot of drops... I personally think it's a mental thing, kind of like errors in baseball. Once you make a couple it just gets in your head. But I hope you really won't remember his drops more than everything else he did. I know he benefited from playing in a different offense and better QB than any of the other great WRs in our history, but his name is all over our record books.

#1 career rec. yards and receptions
Tied #2 career TDs
Tied #1 single season TDs (2016, when he had so many drops and still led the SEC)
#1 and #3 single season receptions
#2 single season yards (1 of only 2 1000+ yard seasons in school history)
5 games with 10+ receptions his last two season... there have only been 13 other 10+ reception games in school history by guys not named Fred Ross

Also the only guy we could find to field a punt without giving us a heart attack every time.

We don't have an illustrious history of receivers and he played 4 years. He was a good receiver. He'll never be great in my eyes bc of the drops. It wasn't just a few. It was a **** ton and him not being drafted proves my point.
 

Kojak.sixpack

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We will be fine so long as . . .



Mullen doesn't guinea pig Fitz and this offense into a 65% passing offense like he did Dak's Senior year. We need to run the ball. It is not good that our weakest units are OL and WR but Fitz running it 15-20 times can offset that. I am hoping that the reason Mullen went so pass happy in 2015 was because he thought he had great talent at WR and was suspect at RB. The opposite is true this year. Let's hope the opposite is true about play calling as well. Relf Coast Offense please.
 

HamSammich

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Marshmello is Nicks's favorite group, so it makes perfect sense for their music to be on his highlight reel.
 

TheStateUofMS

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Marshmello is one person not a group. Guy who used to have the DJ name Dot Com.

Marshmello is Nicks's favorite group, so it makes perfect sense for their music to be on his highlight reel.


He came back being promoted by a mainstream EDM DJ Skrillex. They put a mask on his head to add "mystery." It's a gimmick to attract attention. He's just a mainstream EDM DJ producer who has a few catchy songs, but probably doesn't have much staying power.

#MelloGang
 

Hump4Hoops

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I don't think you'll have anything to worry about

Fitz is a better runner than Dak, and a less accurate passer, along with having significantly fewer good receivers. He's a perfect fit for the Relf coast offense.
 

DancingRabbit

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Maybe next year. This year will be Relf Coast PLUS.

Mullen doesn't guinea pig Fitz and this offense into a 65% passing offense like he did Dak's Senior year. We need to run the ball. It is not good that our weakest units are OL and WR but Fitz running it 15-20 times can offset that. I am hoping that the reason Mullen went so pass happy in 2015 was because he thought he had great talent at WR and was suspect at RB. The opposite is true this year. Let's hope the opposite is true about play calling as well. Relf Coast Offense please.

I could see Dan doing that Fitz's senior year if he progresses well during this season.
 

thf24

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I hope his passing has improved. Gonna be tougher without Fred Ross. I know it was just a spring game but 4 INTs in the first half is rough.

He's a bad mofo no doubt and we will have to live with some TOs, but hopefully that are limited.

Him being out in the Cotton District past midnight prior to the game was probably more to blame for the 4 INT's than anything else.
 

HaleStater

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Mullen doesn't guinea pig Fitz and this offense into a 65% passing offense like he did Dak's Senior year. We need to run the ball. It is not good that our weakest units are OL and WR but Fitz running it 15-20 times can offset that. I am hoping that the reason Mullen went so pass happy in 2015 was because he thought he had great talent at WR and was suspect at RB. The opposite is true this year. Let's hope the opposite is true about play calling as well. Relf Coast Offense please.

Another reason was bc we had the shittiest offensive line in 2015 I've ever seen here and for Dak's senior year. Hevesy and the rest of the coaching staff owed that man an apology after that season. A mobile QB Getting sacked 16 times in 2 games against Bama and Ole Miss was pathetic.
 

KurtRambis4

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The thing is

bear was just an avg receiver, talent wise, in hindsight. He didn't even sniff the NFL. I feel pretty confident we have equal or better talent than him, on the roster.

Our QB and playcalling/coaching contributed to his success, to me. I have no reason to doubt we cannot put other (current rosters) in a similar position.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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bear was just an avg receiver, talent wise, in hindsight. He didn't even sniff the NFL. I feel pretty confident we have equal or better talent than him, on the roster.

Our QB and playcalling/coaching contributed to his success, to me. I have no reason to doubt we cannot put other (current rosters) in a similar position.
Only thing bear didn't have was speed. Size, strength, hands, ability to play the ball... he was a beast. You're selling him wayyyy short imo. If anybody has his talent on the roster, it would'vd been revealed already most likely.
 

HaleStater

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bear was just an avg receiver, talent wise, in hindsight. He didn't even sniff the NFL. I feel pretty confident we have equal or better talent than him, on the roster.

Our QB and playcalling/coaching contributed to his success, to me. I have no reason to doubt we cannot put other (current rosters) in a similar position.

And I'm the one who catches grief on this board. You post stupid **** all the time. Bear was a really good college receiver. If Bear was average then Chad Bumphis and Fred Ross were below average. IMO They were all good college receivers but if you held a gun to my head and asked me which one would come down with the catch while being covered or you die it would be Bear.
 
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