Nice work, Big Ten
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If they “couldn’t anticipate” that a team might have the highest winning percentage but not the most wins, the Illinois AD and his colleagues can’t do basic math.
Everyone agreed to the rules, so the conference is right to stick to them. They should have done the same with football.
Everyone agreed to the rules, so the conference is right to stick to them. They should have done the same with football.
"Stick it to them"
Not really what the conference commish is supposed to do unless there is some violation or code of conduct issues.
In fairness to Michigan, they might have played with a little more purpose in the last game against MSU (if the rules had been different). Anyway, congrats to both teams - great seasons to be sure.
They didn't anticipate one team choosing not to reschedule as many games as they could. Should a team that went 8-0 win over a team that went 19-1?
If the "rules" including trying to play all the games, then the "rules" weren't followed.
The bottom line with the whole deal is that everything Warren's administration has touched so far has turned in to a sh## show. Time for a change.
Obviously they were anticipating the possibility that teams would not play the same number of games. If that wasn’t on the table there would have been no reason to agree to go by winning percentage in the first place.
Seems like there are people in this thread that would normally moan about “participation trophies” that are suddenly feeling bad for the poor Illini because it gives them a chance to trash the conference leadership.
It's kind of a silly argument. Michigan missed out on playing another game vs Penn State and Northwestern.
They would've beaten both those teams. Quit crying Illinois.
However, The Big Ten should be accountable for its uneven scheduling. Teams like Illinois and Michigan should've been playing twice anyway on the season. If that happens, this argument never comes up.
They would've beaten both those teams. Quit crying Illinois.
However, The Big Ten should be accountable for its uneven scheduling. Teams like Illinois and Michigan should've been playing twice anyway on the season. If that happens, this argument never comes up.
curious what kind of response he gets from the conference.
it must be nice to be free to express opinions.
especially, after the fact.
it must be nice to be free to express opinions.
especially, after the fact.
Like they would have beaten Minnesota?
You know their losses in conference were against teams that they were favored to beat, by a lot.
What also should be brought up is the Big 10 also knew Ioway and Michigan along with Illinois and Ohio st would be the top 5 teams in the conference and Michigan only played Ohio St and Ioway once. Illinois only played Ioway only one too..
So you have a very valid point..
When Minnesota had their whole roster, they were a legit top 25 team. They've played basically the last 3 weeks without four main contributors and two significant starters.
Neither Penn State or Northwestern were the same caliber team.
in a 14 team league I don't believe you can play each team twice and stay within the the ncaa limits of regular season games allowed
You can't, but every year it seems like the Big Ten schedule makers purposely go out of their way to make sure the "perceived top 3 or 4" only have to play each other once.
How often does the conference not schedule tOSU and Michigan twice? And of all season‘s not this one.
Early predicted preseason polls had Illinois and Ioway the top 2 or 3 yet they only played in iowa city and not Champaign...
Just looking at 2019-2020 season - the top 4 teams were Purdue, MSU, Mich and Wisc
if each of those teams would have the played the others twice that would have been 6 games against the other top teams in the league
each of those teams played 5 games against the other 3 teams - that isn't bad considering there is no way a league can be certain who their top 4 teams will be going into the season - I think some sites had Michigan in the bottom half of the league preseason
2019 may certainly have been an anomaly - I don't know
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michigan v OSU - since the BIG expanded to 14 teams
2014-15 - twice
2015-16 - once
2016-17 - once
2017-18 - twice
2018-19 - once
2019-20 - twice
2020-21 - once
the schedules are pretty easy to find on this thing they call the internet - might be wise to take a minute to check before regurgitating nonsensical conspiracy theories
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So is It a conspiracy theory that Illinois and Ioway were the top 2 or 3 teams predicted in conference before the schedules we made out?
Josh Whitman does have a point.
He is advocating on behalf of the Illini basketball squad as he should.
Sorry for the kids but they can fix all this by winning the tournament.
Go Blue!
He is advocating on behalf of the Illini basketball squad as he should.
Sorry for the kids but they can fix all this by winning the tournament.
Go Blue!
to my knowledge the BIG doesn't make schedules based on preseason predictions
since the BIG expanded to 14 teams - Iowa and Illinois have played 2 regular season games 3 times and one regular season game - 5 times the last 8 seasons
I wish they would play in 2 divisions. Play everyone in your division 2 times and the other division once.
Then at the end of the season instead of the usual conference tourney have the divisions play against the other according to finish. Have the division champs play each other. 2nd place vs 2nd place, 3rd vs 3rd, etc.
the 4 teams in the BIG this year - Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue
each teams schedule against the other teams in the top 4:
MICH --- played each team once
Illinois -- played each team once
Iowa --- played each team once
Purdue -- played each team once
each teams schedule against the other teams in the top 4:
MICH --- played each team once
Illinois -- played each team once
Iowa --- played each team once
Purdue -- played each team once
Don't forget that Michigan ducked Illinois the first time (even though somehow the courageous women's team was able to play) and changed the game from road to home and got destroyed...and also somehow could not reschedule 3 other games.
Their coach IMO has purposefully put a chip on his team's shoulders to motivate them to win the B1G tourney. I wonder what kind of contract incentive he has for winning the regular season conference title and/or the B1G tourney?
I assume Illinois will pay his bonuses...and I agree, it probably does motivate the team.
i agree with this - I just don’t think the big, when plotting out the next seasons BB schedule, has some nefarious scheme it is planning
the last 6 years the top 2 preseason (AP) big ten teams played each other twice in the regular season 3 times and once 3 times
the lengths some people will go to to convince themselves that some evil plot exists is amazing
Didn’t say there was a evil plot, you’re making up a false narrative...
Good for you.. Mr Peabody..
Unless your a Michigan Player or fan.
They would have the same argument as the Indiana players/fans in football.
Illinois receives Mercy.
Does Michigan receive Justice?
Both must be in balance for the problem to be fixed.
You've only obscured it.
Go Blue!
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No, even Michigan fans know the best thing is either co-champs or Illinois outright champs (they are .5 games in front of you Michigan)