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RUChoppin

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I agree players can improve, but noting Young was better for a few games at the end of the year and comparing that to 50% of Harper's freshman season also ignores the 2 other full seasons of data on Young at Texas. His career assist rate over 92 games is 11.9% and a TO rate of 18.5% while shooting 27% on 3s, 47% on 2s, and 64% on FTs. It's not like Young just started slowly for the season, he has 3 full years of being a not efficient player with a terrible assist rate. The odds of him magically turning into a quality PG as a senior are pretty slim. I mean Paul Mulcahy had better assist and shooting numbers this season than the entirety of Young's career. The odds of him making a leap and being a decent PG are probably far higher.

Young was a spot up SG at TX and wasn't asked to facilitate and distribute. Even when taking his full season stats, his assists/40 min is nearly double this year what it was at TX (as are his TOs)... and his 3PA/40 has dropped from 7.8 at TX to 4.1 at RU, while his 2PA/40 has gone up from 4.6 to 11.0. The % of shots taken behind the arc dropped form .630 at TX to .271 at RU), and the % of teammates' FG that he assisted on jumped from 9.4 to 17.4. Pike has used him in a very different role than he was used by Smart, so it's not a very good comparison looking at his TX vs. RU numbers.

The question is if his progression/growth over the course of this year will continue next year or not. He struggled to get going in the first part of the year, then became a key part of our rotation and a more higher efficiency player down the stretch. Can he continue that development as a RS Sr, or will he regress?
 

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I agree players can improve, but noting Young was better for a few games at the end of the year and comparing that to 50% of Harper's freshman season also ignores the 2 other full seasons of data on Young at Texas. His career assist rate over 92 games is 11.9% and a TO rate of 18.5% while shooting 27% on 3s, 47% on 2s, and 64% on FTs. It's not like Young just started slowly for the season, he has 3 full years of being a not efficient player with a terrible assist rate. The odds of him magically turning into a quality PG as a senior are pretty slim. I mean Paul Mulcahy had better assist and shooting numbers this season than the entirety of Young's career. The odds of him making a leap and being a decent PG are probably far higher.

Young wasn’t just better “for a few games at the end of the year.” He was better for the entire schedule starting with the Caldwell game in late December.
 

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Young was a spot up SG at TX and wasn't asked to facilitate and distribute. Even when taking his full season stats, his assists/40 min is nearly double this year what it was at TX (as are his TOs)... and his 3PA/40 has dropped from 7.8 at TX to 4.1 at RU, while his 2PA/40 has gone up from 4.6 to 11.0. The % of shots taken behind the arc dropped form .630 at TX to .271 at RU), and the % of teammates' FG that he assisted on jumped from 9.4 to 17.4. Pike has used him in a very different role than he was used by Smart, so it's not a very good comparison looking at his TX vs. RU numbers.

The question is if his progression/growth over the course of this year will continue next year or not. He struggled to get going in the first part of the year, then became a key part of our rotation and a more higher efficiency player down the stretch. Can he continue that development as a RS Sr, or will he regress?
To take a really optimistic view, over the last three, which were tough games, he shot 16-28, 4-5 3pt, had 10 assists to 2 turnovers, had 6 steals and only 3 fouls. The "good" Young can be pretty good -- he will have his ups and downs, but I am thinking he will see a better % of games similar to those last three over the course of the next season.
 
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One could easily argue Young was the best player in an RU uniform the second half of the season.

Lol, that dudes represents spirit. Every time he scores and runs back with his chest out, YIPEE KAYAH. An attitude to approach life with for sure. Love it!
 
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RUChoppin

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To take a really optimistic view, over the last three, which were tough games, he shot 16-28, 4-5 3pt, had 10 assists to 2 turnovers, had 6 steals and only 3 fouls. The "good" Young can be pretty good -- he will have his ups and downs, but I am thinking he will see a better % of games similar to those last three over the course of the next season.

He really was peaking at the right time over the last 5 games (as were Baker, Harper, and Mathis), and we could have been a dangerous team in the B1G/NCAA tournaments if we stayed hot.

Hoping that all carries through into next year, and that there's an "unfinished business" fire in their bellies.
 
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I agree players can improve, but noting Young was better for a few games at the end of the year and comparing that to 50% of Harper's freshman season also ignores the 2 other full seasons of data on Young at Texas. His career assist rate over 92 games is 11.9% and a TO rate of 18.5% while shooting 27% on 3s, 47% on 2s, and 64% on FTs. It's not like Young just started slowly for the season, he has 3 full years of being a not efficient player with a terrible assist rate. The odds of him magically turning into a quality PG as a senior are pretty slim. I mean Paul Mulcahy had better assist and shooting numbers this season than the entirety of Young's career. The odds of him making a leap and being a decent PG are probably far higher.
Until Mulcahy becomes more of the scoring threat, Rutgers at times is play4 on 5. The thing with young is his energy and ability to score in bunches which can change the completion on the game. Both are valuable to the team. Their impact on the team comes in different ways.
He really was peaking at the right time over the last 5 games (as were Baker, Harper, and Mathis), and we could have been a dangerous team in the B1G/NCAA tournaments if we stayed hot.

Hoping that all carries through into next year, and that there's an "unfinished business" fire in their bellies.
We could have made a run to the final 4. The last time that happened we beat Purdue during that year. Guess what we did this year, twice?:)