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BigWill

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i'm not sure the Pope is making an argument rather than a statement. According to ChatGPT he didn't directly criticize the Iranian government when they killed many thousands of their citizens. What he said was things like:
  • called for peace and dialogue in Iran
  • warned that tensions were causing deaths
  • expressed concern about violence
  • called for peace and dialogue in Iran
  • warned that tensions were causing deaths
  • expressed concern about violence
In general Trump (I think) seems to be complaining the Pope isn't taking sides, which he is not. I then asked about the Pope during WW2. Here is the gist of his 1942 Christmas message:

👉 This is widely understood as a reference to Jews being killed by the Nazis.

But:

  • He did NOT say “Jews” explicitly
  • He did NOT name Nazi Germany or Hitler directly




Pope's do what Pope's do and most political leaders ignore them.

edit: Rome was under the control of Mussolini in December 1942 so maybe the Pope was being careful but still probably reluctant to take sides.
Or was afraid to speak for or to what was clearly righteous.
 

BigWill

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That's fair. But do you believe Trump went in and said, "I want to increase the NIAID budget" or do you find it more likely he had no clue what that was or really who Fauci was until covid?
May haps he was concerned with the two bogus Impeachments and relied on Dr Flip Flop and the Scarf Lady for their expertise.
 
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BigWill

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I’m with you there, I think it’s very likely he didn’t know. But some would consider that negligent on his part, so I don’t think he would want it all exposed.

I don’t blame Trump for wanting to move on from that, but also don’t believe he would recommend prosecuting him, even if he could. It would raise a lot of other questions. Obviously just my opinion, but I think it’s telling that little has been exposed in the last couple years. We just moved on.
6,000,000 + Epstein documents have been exposed since Jan, 2025.

Is that too little ?
 
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rillaman

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You advised me that the golf course my Nephew lives on when in Colo, was your favorite one to play.

Silly me thinking you would be playing your favorite course.

Do you get ball relief if the ball winds up in a hoof divot or elk poop ?

Pretty sure I said one of my favorites.

Just my wife and another couple, so we moved our ball quite a bit. They do a good job of keeping the greens clean, but quite a bit of poop on the course. The hoof divots are a problem.
 

tjfleck6

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You think it saved my life but will also kill me. You’re all over the place.
Wrong again. Thanks to me and other patriots, you know it didn’t save your life. We are living pure bloods and covid “survivors”. I assume you are young, healthy and reasonably fit which makes you a perfect candidate for not getting it.

Yes, I think there was a chance it could kill or harm you and my belief is you do too. Any injection carries risks and as the German Pfizer exec testified, 20-60k Germans were KILLED by the jab.
 

tjfleck6

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i'm not sure the Pope is making an argument rather than a statement. According to ChatGPT he didn't directly criticize the Iranian government when they killed many thousands of their citizens. What he said was things like:
  • called for peace and dialogue in Iran
  • warned that tensions were causing deaths
  • expressed concern about violence
  • called for peace and dialogue in Iran
  • warned that tensions were causing deaths
  • expressed concern about violence
In general Trump (I think) seems to be complaining the Pope isn't taking sides, which he is not. I then asked about the Pope during WW2. Here is the gist of his 1942 Christmas message:

👉 This is widely understood as a reference to Jews being killed by the Nazis.

But:

  • He did NOT say “Jews” explicitly
  • He did NOT name Nazi Germany or Hitler directly




Pope's do what Pope's do and most political leaders ignore them.

edit: Rome was under the control of Mussolini in December 1942 so maybe the Pope was being careful but still probably reluctant to take sides.
Popes also don’t allocate 60 minutes of their day to out of power Jewish political consultants. But this one did. I admire Trumps consistency, he is not going to take crap from the Pope or Rosie O Donnell. It may be a flaw, but consistency is to be admired.

And personally, this pope should support what Trump did for Nigerian Christians vocally. Instead he licks up to Algerian Muslims in what used to be a Christian country.
 

rillaman

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Wrong again. Thanks to me and other patriots, you know it didn’t save your life. We are living pure bloods and covid “survivors”. I assume you are young, healthy and reasonably fit which makes you a perfect candidate for not getting it.

Yes, I think there was a chance it could kill or harm you and my belief is you do too. Any injection carries risks and as the German Pfizer exec testified, 20-60k Germans were KILLED by the jab.

I know this is true, and I know the vaccine had terrible side effects for some people.

I’m just unsure about the cancer, heart disease stuff. I’ve talked to enough people (with wildly different opinions/experiences/expertise) to have some pause about those discussions.

I’d gladly welcome investigations concerning this particular topic.
 

rillaman

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Just a FYI, Dr Helmut Sterz, who is the Pfizer executive that testified, looks to have retired in 2007. Retired after his lab was closed, so he might have an axe to grind with Pfizer.

I would hope that would give some pause when quoting him. I’d be curious to hear if he said there was a particular ingredient or mechanism of the vaccine that killed people. Seems more speculative than science based. But again, I’d love to see more investigations into death and injury claims.
 
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Uncoach

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Just a FYI, Dr Helmut Sterz, who is the Pfizer executive that testified, looks to have retired in 2007.

I would hope that would give some pause when quoting him. I’d be curious to hear if he said there was a particular ingredient or mechanism of the vaccine that killed people. Seems more speculative than science based. But again, I’d love to see more investigations into death and injury claims.
I have a retired MD in the family. He still knows his ****.
 

rillaman

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I have a retired MD in the family. He still knows his ****.

Yes, I’m sure this guy still has knowledge. But I don’t think he talked specifics about what caused it.

He did question the speed with which the vaccine came out, passing standard processes that assess concerns like cancer causing ingredients. The passing of standard processes happened because of initiatives like OWS.

Still a lot to unpack on COVID, but everyone seems to have moved on.
 

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Yes, I’m sure this guy still has knowledge. But I don’t think he talked specifics about what caused it.

He did question the speed with which the vaccine came out, passing standard processes that assess concerns like cancer causing ingredients. The passing of standard processes happened because of initiatives like OWS.

Still a lot to unpack on COVID, but everyone seems to have moved on.
Yes. There is a lot to unpack and a lot of people made bank from Covid/policies.
 

AzIllini

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Popes also don’t allocate 60 minutes of their day to out of power Jewish political consultants. But this one did. I admire Trumps consistency, he is not going to take crap from the Pope or Rosie O Donnell. It may be a flaw, but consistency is to be admired.

And personally, this pope should support what Trump did for Nigerian Christians vocally. Instead he licks up to Algerian Muslims in what used to be a Christian country.
Thank you, I agree, but didn't post on either of those topics.

I was trying to say Popes are and mostly in recent history, do not take positions on sides, they are against war, etc but if Iran is killing its citizens, they don't call a spade a spade, it isn't what they do.
 

Uncoach

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Boss Hogg doesn't even know who controls the straight.

I especially liked this reply from poster John Titor-

“This is why I hate politics. Trump is doing what every previous President (Republican and Democrat) wished that they could've done--neutralize Iran. But since it's Trump doing it, morons like David Hogg have to pretend that it's a bad thing.”
 

dtrain79

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Take some time to explain why I am for or against "Great Replacement ". I like to know what I am for or against...

Why would I or anyone care whom Leo voted for or what Party in primaries ?

I voted in Dem local primaries (registering was easy and back as well.) for a friend who was running for local school board. He got 8 votes (mine was 1) and was elected.

I was responding to Uncoach, the response had two different quote tweets and only the other was yours. He brought up the theory, I have no clue if you’ve heard of it and would be more impressed if you hadn’t.

The Pope voted in multiple GOP primaries, he was pretty clearly a Republican leaning voter over the last two decades.
 
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Uncoach

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LOL, if true! Of course you have to see it in X to have it translated to English. Supposedly Orban and Magyar played the EU, Soros, Obama.



I c&p the English translation here-

HUNGARIAN CHESS THAT MAKES BRUSSELS CRY🤣
🇭🇺 Viktor Orbán places his trusted “traitor” and the EU falls into the perfect trap: the checkmate that has left Brussels, Soros, and Obama humiliated.

In a display of political chess so brilliant it borders on the comical, Viktor Orbán sniffed out long ago that the European Union, George Soros, Obama, and the whole globalist club were gunning for him. With no worthwhile left-wing opposition left in Hungary (none of them cracked the laughable 5% electoral threshold), the Hungarian prime minister decided to solve the problem his own way: he took his top ally and right-hand man, Péter Magyar, and sent him out front as a deluxe “opponent.”

The plan was as simple as it was genius: Magyar, who until 2024 was a key piece of the Orbán government, dramatically jumped ship, played the dissident, eagerly accepted funds from the very Eurocrats who despise Orbán, and positioned himself as the great hope for “change.” The European left and their patrons fell into the trap like flies into honey. “At last!” they shouted in Brussels, as they cracked open the checkbook. No one understood a thing, of course, because hardly anyone speaks Hungarian and the headlines in Western media were too flattering to question.

The result? Magyar won. And the moment he set foot in power, the “traitor” revealed his true face. He declared that the border “isn’t strong enough,” rejected 90% of Ursula von der Leyen’s demands, prioritized the rights of ethnic Hungarians, and in practice, stuck to the same sovereigntist line that so irritates the EU.

The European Union, Soros, Obama, and company bit the bait, shelled out the cash, and now stare in stunned disbelief as the “change” they celebrated so much is exactly the same old Orbán—just with a different name. Masterstroke. 5D chess at its finest. And the best part: all of it legal, all of it clean, and all of it right under their noses
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Uncoach

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BTW, we have seen this video for years, but forgetting the fist bump, I just noticed how this “J6er” hides his face from the security camera.

 
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