New WBB poll out today....

[thekimmer]

We are still at #6

Uconn loses second game but it just reshuffles 1-5 with the huskies dropping to #5 and 2-4 moving up a spot. NCstate slides a couple of spots with their first loss and stanford has another bad week and falls out of the top 10.

Our SEC rivals USC shot up 4 spots to #12.

 

[PineGroveBully]

I've got a feeling Vic will use that slight very skillfully

 

[CrookedLetta4Eva]

It’s truly the amazing the amount of disrespect we get in every sport.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Hello, Marquette at #8...

Obviously, being a 1 seed is always huge. But it's more important to avoid UConn in Albany. And Oregon in Portland, and Notre Dame in Chicago. And Louisville in Greensboro.

Damn, when can we get a regional in New Orleans or Memphis or even Nashville?

 

[BiscuitEater]

It’s truly the amazing the amount of disrespect we get in every sport.

MSU WBB goes undefeated through SEC Season and WILL be a #1 Seed. Book it.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

So, we are 21-1, 9-0 SEC, with two consecutive championship appearances and can't break the top 5. OK. Hello Rodney Dangerfield.

 

[Seinfeld]

It’s also weird that they really seem to be holding one loss against us that was on the road against the #3 team. Not to mention a game in which we led quite a bit in spite of some really bad calls against T

I don’t know... I think most recognize that we’re a really good team again, but they’re not convinced we’re great due to a fairly weak conference this year

 

[blacklistedbully]

To be fair, it's SOS. We're at #17. Everyone above us is Top 10, including UConn at #2 & ND at #1. Those are the only ones with one loss more than we have.

 

[57stratdawg]

I'm hoping someone upsets USC in the next few weeks. Maybe @ UT on 2/24?

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

I think we got exposed in the Oregon game and are privileged that the SEC is not very strong at all this year. And now we are without Bibby. I think we are a solid elite 8 team but I don't see them getting to Final Four again this year. Notre Dame should definitely be below us losing to an unranked team but UCONN lost to at the time number 1 and number 3 and Louisville lost to number 1. Baylor lost to at the time number 11 but they beat number 1 UCONN. I think the poll is pretty accurate other than ND.

 

[MSUDC11]

Hello, Marquette at #8...

Obviously, being a 1 seed is always huge. But it's more important to avoid UConn in Albany. And Oregon in Portland, and Notre Dame in Chicago. And Louisville in Greensboro.

Damn, when can we get a regional in New Orleans or Memphis or even Nashville?

Louisville is only an hour or two closer to Greensboro than we are. That’s by far the most neutral of the sites. And FYI, the 2020 Final Four is in New Orleans. Not sure we get that far next year but if we do, NOLA will be a sea of maroon.

To your point about Marquette, they are by far our best win. Great team that has everything except for size. They couldn’t handle McCowan and Howard. I feel like we would beat them again just because of that mismatch plus I believe we have really improved defensively since then, but I sure am hoping we don’t run into them again.

 

[RocketDawg]

To be fair, it's SOS. We're at #17. Everyone above us is Top 10, including UConn at #2 & ND at #1. Those are the only ones with one loss more than we have.

Notre Dame had a bad road loss to an unranked team. I suppose they're just assuming they had a bad day and are still really good (I agree with that part). I think we're better than UConn this year, but we've had a couple of games where we didn't look all that sharp, Sunday being one of those. But we had a couple of injuries Sunday, and Bibby being out for the year may lend a bit of uncertainty to the rankings. Vic and the team just have to keep on winning.

 

[RocketDawg]

Louisville is only an hour or two closer to Greensboro than we are. That’s by far the most neutral of the sites. And FYI, the 2020 Final Four is in New Orleans. Not sure we get that far next year but if we do, NOLA will be a sea of maroon.

To your point about Marquette, they are by far our best win. Great team that has everything except for size. They couldn’t handle McCowan and Howard. I feel like we would beat them again just because of that mismatch plus I believe we have really improved defensively since then, but I sure am hoping we don’t run into them again.

Is it Greensboro or Greenville? I was thinking 'ville. Anyway, that's the closest site to us I think. And if we make it to the end, we'd probably be the closest of the final 4 teams to New Orleans.

 

[Ishmael]

It’s also weird that they really seem to be holding one loss against us that was on the road against the #3 team. Not to mention a game in which we led quite a bit in spite of some really bad calls against T

I don’t know... I think most recognize that we’re a really good team again, but they’re not convinced we’re great due to a fairly weak conference this year

Not only on the road to the number 3 team, but a very late tip off 2 time zones away. I guess SOS is hurting us, but I feel like we tried to play some solid non-conference games to teams who ended up being weaker than anyone thought (here’s looking at you, Texas).

 

[RocketDawg]

Not only on the road to the number 3 team, but a very late tip off 2 time zones away. I guess SOS is hurting us, but I feel like we tried to play some solid non-conference games to teams who ended up being weaker than anyone thought (here’s looking at you, Texas).

Yes, Texas isn't as good as they were supposed to be. Unless I'm mistaken, our two toughest remaining games are Texas A&M and South Carolina. Tennessee could also be a challenge, but they haven't been consistent this year.

 

[She Mate Me]

If you've watched the polls this year, it's not surprising we're ranked where we are. We started lower than the teams ahead of us, moved up a bit and then lost to Oregon and dropped back down to 7th. To give you an idea how much that loss meant where the polls are concerned, a win there and we are probably #1 right now.

Nothing has happened above us monumental enough to vault us farther up. The Top 6 teams are now clearly separated from those below them with every AP voter, but one, voting the same teams, in varying order, 1-6. I don't think any of the voters see a huge difference in those 6. We got a 2nd place vote and quite a few 4th and 5ths. Fact is, we are the only team in that group without a win over another team in that group.

Just gotta keep winning. Root for Texas tonight, even though their odds are probably 1 in 10 to beat Baylor.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Yes, ND had a bad loss, but they do consider the fact that a key starter was out for that game and is expected back. Their other loss is to #5 UConn. Also, ND has better wins than us, including #2, 7, 6, 13, & 16. We have wins vs #8, 12, 14, & 19. ND's SOS is #1. Ours is #17.

I agree about us being better than UConn, and find their results a little perplexing as it relates to current rankings. Best I can figure is their, "unranked opponents wins" are quite a bit better than ours. That, and they do have a win at #4 ND. But that is their only win vs a ranked opponent as of today. Then again, though they have 2 losses, they are to the current #1 & 2.

Personally, I suspect the overall SOS is a bit of a crap shoot when it comes to unranked opponents. Once you get past a certain point, the rest of the teams just aren't that good. So, IMO, our wins vs #8, 12, 14,& 19 are better than UConn's win vs #4, and our single loss at #3 is better than their 2 losses to #1 & 2.

To sum it up, I can at least understand why ND is still higher-ranked than us...but think we have a very good argument to be higher than UConn, even though their SOS is #2 and ours #17.

 

[Go Budaw]

I'm hoping someone upsets USC in the next few weeks. Maybe @ UT on 2/24?

It’s better for us if they win as much as possible, except against us. Potentially two more games against them, and we have already beaten them once. That’s our best chance to raise our profile.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Crème currently has us as a 2 in Portland.

His 1/2 pairings are:
Oregon/MSU (Portland)
Notre Dame/Stanford (Chicago)
Louisville/UConn (Albany)
Baylor/NC State (Greensboro)


http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology

 

[She Mate Me]

Crème currently has us as a 2 in Portland.

His 1/2 pairings are:
Oregon/MSU (Portland)
Notre Dame/Stanford (Chicago)
Louisville/UConn (Albany)
Baylor/NC State (Greensboro)


http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology

Pretty much means he has Oregon as the overall 3 and us as the 6 right now.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

It’s better for us if they win as much as possible, except against us. Potentially two more games against them, and we have already beaten them once. That’s our best chance to raise our profile.

Don’t you watch the SECN? They have a better program than us and a coach who isn’t a middle age white man. **

 

[klong-dog]

If we beat them for the national championship, I'm sure we'd been #1 in those rankings. They wanted so bad to put UT there.

 

[She Mate Me]

Is it Greensboro or Greenville? I was thinking 'ville. Anyway, that's the closest site to us I think. And if we make it to the end, we'd probably be the closest of the final 4 teams to New Orleans.

SEC Tourney in Greenville, SC
NCAA Regional in Greensboro, NC

 

[MSUDC11]

Crème currently has us as a 2 in Portland.

His 1/2 pairings are:
Oregon/MSU (Portland)
Notre Dame/Stanford (Chicago)
Louisville/UConn (Albany)
Baylor/NC State (Greensboro)


http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology

I will take that. I think we are a better team than Oregon. We didn’t play well the first time we played them but a lot of weird things also happened in that game. T was a non factor after she had 35 and 19 against them last year, Oregon made 27 of 28 free throws (they are a good free throw shooting team but that’s still 20% greater than their season average), Danberry fouled out early in the 4th quarter, late tip off two time zones away, and we still only lost by 8 and were only down 2 when Danberry fouled out. Not to mention I feel like we’ve figured out some things defensively since then.

Baylor, Louisville, Notre Dame, I think they are probably better than us. Not as convinced that Oregon is.

 

[RocketDawg]

SEC Tourney in Greenville, SC
NCAA Regional in Greensboro, NC

One of those towns needs to change their name to avoid confusion. **

 

[RocketDawg]

If you've watched the polls this year, it's not surprising we're ranked where we are. We started lower than the teams ahead of us, moved up a bit and then lost to Oregon and dropped back down to 7th. To give you an idea how much that loss meant where the polls are concerned, a win there and we are probably #1 right now.

Nothing has happened above us monumental enough to vault us farther up. The Top 6 teams are now clearly separated from those below them with every AP voter, but one, voting the same teams, in varying order, 1-6. I don't think any of the voters see a huge difference in those 6. We got a 2nd place vote and quite a few 4th and 5ths. Fact is, we are the only team in that group without a win over another team in that group.

Just gotta keep winning. Root for Texas tonight, even though their odds are probably 1 in 10 to beat Baylor.

Barring a miracle, that's not going to happen. Baylor up 53-37 well into the 3rd quarter.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

IF you gave Tenn, aTm or SCe the same record they would be #3 at least.

 

[patdog]

I doubt it. Our schedule is ****, and it's not all our fault. The SEC is way down, Virginia looked like a pretty good OOC game, but they suck. Texas is decent but nothing special. By far our best win is Marquette.

 

[G-Dawg]

One of those towns needs to change their name to avoid confusion. **

"EXACTLY!" -said Greenwood and Greenville, MS

 

[She Mate Me]

"EXACTLY!" -said Greenwood and Greenville, MS

"17 all y'all" - said Greenland.

 

[thekimmer]

Taking a look at Uconn's schedule....

To be fair, it's SOS. We're at #17. Everyone above us is Top 10, including UConn at #2 & ND at #1. Those are the only ones with one loss more than we have.

They have beaten exactly one team that is currently ranked. Sure that was ND but unranked UNC did that too. Sure they played #2 and #3 but they LOST. So by my reckoning they have lost two games, won one game against a currently ranked team and play in one of the weakest conferences in the country. Now tell me again why they should be ranked ahead of us?

 

[blacklistedbully]

Apparently you didn't see the other post I made explaining why I think we have a great case for being ranked higher than UConn. As far as the post you quoted goes, I was merely trying to offer an explanation for what the pollsters may have been thinking. May I suggest you read my other post before responding to this one. I suspect we may be on the same page with regard to UConn.

 

[blacklistedbully]

ND has three wins better than our best at this point, and just one bad loss, and that when they had a key player out for the game but coming back soon. The pollsters do consider that. ND is considered to have played the #1 SOS in the country compared to our 17th, yet has more T25 wins, including vs #'s 2, 6 & 7. Our best win is vs #8.

The above will get a team past that one extra loss, even a bad one, given the aforementioned game circumstances.

 

[thekimmer]

Hey I'm with you...

Apparently you didn't see the other post I made explaining why I think we have a great case for being ranked higher than UConn. As far as the post you quoted goes, I was merely trying to offer an explanation for what the pollsters may have been thinking. May I suggest you read my other post before responding to this one. I suspect we may be on the same page with regard to UConn.

I can't say I did see your other post as I can't/won't try to keep up with everything like that but I really was not trying to call you out although I can see why you would think so as I was responding to your post.

The last statement I made was really meant to be more of a general comment instead of directing to one person.

We should be OK because by the time we play USC they might be in the top 10. They will for sure if they beat Uconn. We will likely have to play them twice in the state of SC & if we can escape that we should be good. Plus, UL and ND will have to meet one other time in their conf tourney. Then again, if ND wins it might not given the treatment top 5 teams have gotten lately with a second loss.

 

[MSUDC11]

ND has three wins better than our best at this point, and just one bad loss, and that when they had a key player out for the game but coming back soon. The pollsters do consider that. ND is considered to have played the #1 SOS in the country compared to our 17th, yet has more T25 wins, including vs #'s 2, 6 & 7. Our best win is vs #8.

The above will get a team past that one extra loss, even a bad one, given the aforementioned game circumstances.

Not even sure you can consider UNC a bad loss for Notre Dame. The game was on the road, UNC is 22 in the RPI (higher than all but three SEC teams), and UNC also just beat a Top 10 NC State team by double digits, too.

If Notre Dame wins out they’ll be a one, no doubt about it. The same can be said for Baylor, Louisville, and Oregon in all likelihood. Our loss to Oregon hurts for that reason, as does the SEC being weaker this year.

 

[maroonmania]

I doubt it. Our schedule is ****, and it's not all our fault. The SEC is way down, Virginia looked like a pretty good OOC game, but they suck. Texas is decent but nothing special. By far our best win is Marquette.

We have no control over how good the SEC is but out of conference we have a loss on the road at #3 Oregon, a Top 10 win against #8 Marquette, and a road win against #14 Texas plus we played P5 teams in Virginia and Washington. If our MBB team had played 3 teams in the Top 15 OOC we would say that was great.

 

[Go Budaw]

Everybody just needs to be patient. Louisville and ND will play again in conference tourney most likely. That game probably bumps one of those two down to a two seed. Oregon has Cal on Thursday, then three straight games against Top 11 teams with two of those on the road. Baylor is probably the safest one seed, and could easily finish with only one loss. At the end of the day, they won’t put 3 different two loss teams ahead of a one loss MSU for a one seed. It’s not gonna happen. We just have to take care of business.

 

[G-Dawg]

Not even sure you can consider UNC a bad loss for Notre Dame. The game was on the road, UNC is 22 in the RPI (higher than all but three SEC teams), and UNC also just beat a Top 10 NC State team by double digits, too.

If Notre Dame wins out they’ll be a one, no doubt about it. The same can be said for Baylor, Louisville, and Oregon in all likelihood. Our loss to Oregon hurts for that reason, as does the SEC being weaker this year.

Not to mention they didn't have their PG, Jackie Young. People who think we should be ahead of Notre Dame are just homers. And the fact that most of our fans think we'll go 16-0 in the SEC aGAIN, is incredible. Shows how far this program has come. I think we lose to either Tennessee or Missouri at home and possibly either at aTm or South Carolina. Not that I want us to, just hard to go 16-0 in back to back seasons. Not sure the vaunted Tennessee program has ever done that.

 

[Dawgbite]

"EXACTLY!" -said Greenwood and Greenville, MS

Now one of those is on the river and one is on I55, which is which?

 

[She Mate Me]

Not to mention they didn't have their PG, Jackie Young. People who think we should be ahead of Notre Dame are just homers. And the fact that most of our fans think we'll go 16-0 in the SEC aGAIN, is incredible. Shows how far this program has come. I think we lose to either Tennessee or Missouri at home and possibly either at aTm or South Carolina. Not that I want us to, just hard to go 16-0 in back to back seasons. Not sure the vaunted Tennessee program has ever done that.

The two games I fear most in the regular season are @TAMU and @SC.

There are really only three other possible losses and they are all at home. I think the odds of LSU or Missouri beating us at home are extremely low. UT is talented, but with this whole week to gameplan and a much better team and coach, I'm not real worried.