New Pike’s Gotta Go Thread

richthedentist

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Every game we just watch this coach just make the worst coaching decisions and get out coached every game and we are going to hear the same BS post game conference
We are not going to win more than 2 more games the rest of the year
 
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rucoe89

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Hobbs better not extend him other than one that allows to buy out without pay out. This team is putrid.
 
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Agreed. I love pike but he’s done here. Played Oskar for an eternity and let up a 17 pt lead to UMASS
 

Joey Bags

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Yup this game put me on the bandwagon. We lose Geo and Harper at year end plus potential transfers in Cliff and jones. No recruiting.

We’ll be ranked in the 250-300 range in 2 years.
 

richthedentist

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Yup this game put me on the bandwagon. We lose Geo and Harper at year end plus potential transfers in Cliff and jones. No recruiting.

We’ll be ranked in the 250-300 range in 2 years.
In 2 years we are looking at Littlepage era again next year
 

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Agreed. I love pike but he’s done here. Played Oskar for an eternity and let up a 17 pt lead to UMASS
Reading this makes me shake my head uncontrollably. It’s just crazy to see in print…Sad.
 

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Always thought the guy who got me to the dance would have a statue out front of the stadium, not be fired in a year but here we are haha. And I gotta be honest, losing to 3 of the worse programs over the last few years, missing on key transfers, no big recruits for next season, and seeing the barrel of a 7-25 season for sure, I don’t know how he could survive, especially with that kind of year. If he’s 13-18, maybe, but man, did not foresee us being awful defensively, and then when we r somewhat good defensively we can’t shoot. Still can’t make free throws too.
 
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Please, explain what happened the last two years. I keep asking, and can’t get an answer. How did we have that level of success with such a supposedly awful coach?
 
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Reading this makes me shake my head uncontrollably. It’s just crazy to see in print…Sad.
Don’t care. Losing to UMASS, Laf and DePaul consecuatlively after priding this team as his best yet. Guys days are numbered unless he lands a few 4 stars for next year
 

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He really has no excuse with recruiting. Practice facility is state of the art and the home court advantage is one of the best in the country.
 

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Don’t care. Losing to UMASS, Laf and DePaul consecuatlively after priding this team as his best yet. Guys days are numbered unless he lands a few 4 stars for next year
Good thing the transfer portal doesn’t exist, players don’t develop…bet you 1k he’s here next year.
 

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I agree he’s here next year. But We haven’t hit **** in the portal outside of Jacob who we recreated into what he is. Hyatt appears lost but will prob be solid next year.
 

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For the people who are saying we can’t focus on the last six games - do you tell ur boss that too when you haven’t performed at work over the last six months? Do you say ‘hey, I was good the last two years though’? Like both things can be true folks, we were a blown lead in March from the sweet 16 and then the summer of transferring happened and we lost our powers like the Monstars in space jam haha. I was at LSU recently for the UF football game few weeks back, and their coach WON A NATIONAL TITLE and he’s gone within 16 months. Now, I get there’s more to that with Coach O stuff, but the on the field stuff meant more to them. When you accept mediocrity, then, yeah, fine, pike can stay, and of course he gets the season, I’m not saying he shouldnt. But IF they do go 7-24 let’s say and he adds no one to the rest of the recruiting class or in the portal like he just did this summer, u bringing him back? I just don’t get why RU can’t ever have foresight, ever.
 

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CJ Kelly 17-35 48.6% from 3
Rich Kelly 13-30 43.3% from 3
Buttrick 13-36 36.1% from 3

Knowing all that they let them get all time hot and shoot 16-32 50% from 3.
 

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For the people who are saying we can’t focus on the last six games - do you tell ur boss that too when you haven’t performed at work over the last six months? Do you say ‘hey, I was good the last two years though’? Like both things can be true folks, we were a blown lead in March from the sweet 16 and then the summer of transferring happened and we lost our powers like the Monstars in space jam haha. I was at LSU recently for the UF football game few weeks back, and their coach WON A NATIONAL TITLE and he’s gone within 16 months. Now, I get there’s more to that with Coach O stuff, but the on the field stuff meant more to them. When you accept mediocrity, then, yeah, fine, pike can stay, and of course he gets the season, I’m not saying he shouldnt. But IF they do go 7-24 let’s say and he adds no one to the rest of the recruiting class or in the portal like he just did this summer, u bringing him back? I just don’t get why RU can’t ever have foresight, ever.

I understand what you’re saying but what this argument assumes is that the replacement will be better. We’ve seen 30 years of that not being the case and you’re ready to run the guy who got us to the tourney in years 4 AND 5 after a crappy start.

For your LSU example I can point to Nebraska. A team that thinks losing is unacceptable and ran Bo Pelini out of town who won 10 games a year for a guy who was the next best thing in sports. How that work out?
 

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For the people who are saying we can’t focus on the last six games - do you tell ur boss that too when you haven’t performed at work over the last six months? Do you say ‘hey, I was good the last two years though’?
Maybe? Like it depends on your job and the context right?

Like if I’m a trader and I make two years of good trades and then a couple that don’t work out.. that is absolutely the correct answer. Your boss might fire you anyway.. but that’s because a lot of bosses are idiots too.
 
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Please, explain what happened the last two years. I keep asking, and can’t get an answer. How did we have that level of success with such a supposedly awful coach?
Players, of which, two key components jumped ship at the height of success. Does not say much for Delaumass...
 

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Maybe? Like it depends on your job and the context right?

Like if I’m a trader and I make two years of good trades and then a couple that don’t work out.. that is absolutely the correct answer. Your boss might fire you anyway.. but that’s because a lot of bosses are idiots too.
Yeah I get that for sure. I mean look, I work in sports, I’ve worked for broadcasters and three pro sports teams, so maybe I look at it differently when analyzing success and the metrics we consider successful. And I totally get looking at schools who r still paying coaches tons of money when they just got the previous guy and going “I don’t wanna be like that”. Season is going bad. He gets the full year, no question. But this weird standard of “he gets to right the ship cause he took us to the dance”, again, in March sure, but you can’t look at this off-season plus season start and go “he gets to figure it out” IF we go 7-24 and he has another bad recruiting spring which we r on pace for unfortunately.
 

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I understand what you’re saying but what this argument assumes is that the replacement will be better. We’ve seen 30 years of that not being the case and you’re ready to run the guy who got us to the tourney in years 4 AND 5 after a crappy start.

For your LSU example I can point to Nebraska. A team that thinks losing is unacceptable and ran Bo Pelini out of town who won 10 games a year for a guy who was the next best thing in sports. How that work out?
Yeah but again, that’s a program not realistic with expectations. He was 9-3 every year and they were like ‘nah, thanks for nothing’. Like that’s nuts. We would KILL for 9-3 every year for footbal, hell it’s my goal. My thing is foresight. We don’t work in the building so we don’t know behind the scenes right. But what we do see is a team that has regressed in what is his strength - defense. We have seen recruiting stall (and that’s me being generous) and so now it’s unfortunately wins n losses. Again, gets the year, no question there, but depends what kind of year determines what he gets going forward, is my overall point
 

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Yeah I get that for sure. I mean look, I work in sports, I’ve worked for broadcasters and three pro sports teams, so maybe I look at it differently when analyzing success and the metrics we consider successful. And I totally get looking at schools who r still paying coaches tons of money when they just got the previous guy and going “I don’t wanna be like that”. Season is going bad. He gets the full year, no question. But this weird standard of “he gets to right the ship cause he took us to the dance”, again, in March sure, but you can’t look at this off-season plus season start and go “he gets to figure it out” IF we go 7-24 and he has another bad recruiting spring which we r on pace for unfortunately.
Yeah I think I mostly agree with you. One thing kyk is right about is that making the tournament isn’t some Herculean feat. He doesn’t get to be coach for life just for putting together two good teams. On the other hand, I just think people are jumping ship way too fast. There are tons of reasons for concern, but we just shouldn’t write Pike off so fast.
 

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Yeah I think I mostly agree with you. One thing kyk is right about is that making the tournament isn’t some Herculean feat. He doesn’t get to be coach for life just for putting together two good teams. On the other hand, I just think people are jumping ship way too fast. There are tons of reasons for concern, but we just shouldn’t write Pike off so fast.
Look, I worked for the knicks for 5 years. They went through 3 coaches, two GM’s and two presidents in my time there. Now that’s an outlier because of the head man in charge, and I’m not advocating for that. I’m just somewhere in this rational middle of give him the year no question, but this has now become a ‘show me’ type of year for Steve IMO. And not just wins n losses obv.
 
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Yeah I think I mostly agree with you. One thing kyk is right about is that making the tournament isn’t some Herculean feat. He doesn’t get to be coach for life just for putting together two good teams. On the other hand, I just think people are jumping ship way too fast. There are tons of reasons for concern, but we just shouldn’t write Pike off so fast.


he isnt going to fired in any reality, he is safe this year and next year and will get the following year, after that who knows. But we will know by recruiting if this year goes 11-20 and next year similar and recruiting is still in the dumps that third year is going to be the year where a guy like Hobbs will look toward any positive sign to keep him
 
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he isnt going to fired in any reality, he is safe this year and next year and will get the following year, after that who knows. But we will know by recruiting if this year goes 11-20 and next year similar and recruiting is still in the dumps that third year is going to be the year where a guy like Hobbs will look toward any positive sign to keep him
And he should get the next two years . He engineered one of the greatest rebuilding jobs in BIG history - and that is not an exaggeration . But if both 21-22 and 22-23 is bottom of the league bad , he should be fired . But knowing rutgers he will get 23-24 and maybe even another year
 
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