My guess is you can always talk to their agent. If an assistant is good enough to have an agent he must be good.
Have no idea but assume only head coaches usually have agents and assistant coaches just get what is negotiated by head coach etal
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Have no idea but assume only head coaches usually have agents and assistant coaches just get what is negotiated by head coach etal
And he had Frost calling the plays, Helfrich never called plays when he was the OC, Kelly did, and then when Helfrich became HC he had Frost calling plays, until Frost left. The next year Helfrich was out, then Helfrich didn’t call plays in his NFL stint with the Bears either.
Makes sense. I've been wondering about Held. I personally think the running back room is in decent shape, they just aren't used correctly and I'm not sure if that is Held or Frost. Also, Held was the best recruiter, so I was scratching my head on why they canned him. If what you suggest is true, that is probably why he got the axe.
At NU you can't hire a coach officially until the position has been open and advertised for I think 3 weeks. That IMO is why they fired the assistants now instead of waiting. Frost I think said he expects to have the new assistants in place shortly after the Iowa game. That's 3 weeks from last Friday. It's not a coincidence. I expect regardless of what the outcome of the Iowas game is that our new staff will be in place by the next Wednesday..
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Helfrich is a TV commentator. Could be somebody coaching another team as well.
Not sure that is an accurate quote - He said "The sooner the better, but there are a lot of people with jobs at other places and I imagine nothing can be done until after the season's over"
I don't think so, again, trust was the big take away from that press conference. Peetz doesn't have the resume for me to trust him with the offense, let alone an egomaniac, control freak like Frost.
If 2022 is going to be the make or break year for Frost, giving the reigns to a guy with one year's worth of coordinating at a P5 level, would be a huge risk for Frost.
Of course I’m just speculating giving both will be available after the season. Plus, I don’t buy the whole “this is Scott’s choice” bs. Trev has much more to do with the hiring process then he’ll admit.
Maybe. I will just say that if Frost was going to have his balls cut off with regards to the offense he was going to run and the coaches he was going to hire, why not take the $20 mil, tell them to fire you and go rebuild your career elsewhere? As I have written in other threads, if it doesn't work out here, this isn't going to be the last place he coaches.
I wonder if Helfrich isn’t the choice after all? There is also David Yost with ties back to Oregon, which is how Lubick got into the picture as well. Yost is at Texas Tech I believe. But certainly Helfrich is available.
IF he ends up leaving NU he'll be in high demand at a blue blood as an OC whether some of us choose to admit it or not.
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That may be done in some, but not in any I have been around.
If any of the guys I know had their CEO or other C suite guy tell them who to hire they would tell them to F off. Especially with a $20M golden parachute.
You really think Frost would sit back and let Trev hire not only his OC, but all of the players he let go?
It makes no sense. Frost had leverage, $20M of it. If he was having **** shoved down to him he would have walked.
I really don't think there is as much friction between Trev and Frost on this as some would like to think. Frost knew he had to shake up his staff and I suspect that he welcomes some input from his AD on his hires. Frost isn't an idiot and he knows that if the AD is in the loop it helps his own situation. Not everybody is a prick and tells their AD to f off when the AD tells him to fire his brother.
Keep guessing, folks. I bet the new OC is someone completely off the wall, not on anyone's radar. We'll all wonder who this guy is, do some googling, and then try to convince ourselves that it's going to work (or not).
Frost knew but it took a strong leader in Trev to get him to act on it.
And agree, it seems like a very healthy relationship between the two.
I think that Austin would have been gone with or without Trev as the AD. The other 3 guys I'm not so sure about. I think our QB coach's recruiting and coaching has been clearly underwhelming. I'm an ADD kid so it's kind of strange how I can remember the minutia of some things and then can't remember my own damned anniversary.
I think it is going to be hard to get any decent named OC in here with what is basically a one year deal. Jerry Kill, since he has health problems and would fit probably not care if it is a one year deal. But I cannot imagine any high profile OC being interested when they know the head coach could just be walking the plank next season. If I were Trev, I would have waited till seasons end and if Frost did not win at the minimum 2 of 3 then Frost should be gone. Had he not been a Husker football hero, he would have been gone already. For some reason this just feels like the wife keeps cheating and yet we keep giving her chances. LOL
IF this fails there will be nobody saying we should give him more time next year. I think this is a product of the money and Trev liking the roster and how competitive we've been which makes them think with a few tweaks this might be salvageable. The bottomline is that only so much of your success is your head coach. It's obvious that our O line coach and QB coach were not getting it done. Held and Lubbick are hard for me to judge. I thought at times our RBs looked pretty damned good and our play calling has been better this year.
It might be that Trev's been working the back channels with agents and that there isn't interest from the guys who might have been on his list to take this job. In that case, you don't fire your head coach and spill millions of dollars on a replacement you're not sold on.
If I’m not mistaken that happens all the time. Take Frost for example. He was already hired before UCF’s bowl game that year
And I believe there was permission granted to speak with Frost, he was already speaking with Florida and the UCF AD knew he was going to lose his coach. Moos met Frost in Philly when Nebraska played Penn St and UCF was playing at Temple, a week before the season ended vs Iowa. It was already a foregone conclusion that Nebraska was firing Riley and there would be an opening. Frost wasn't hired until after the regular season was over. From everything I have read, I don't think Frost actually made a decision before Riley was officially fired, but everyone knew he was going to be the next coach because news leaked. I am just saying that I am having a hard time believing that Frost or Alberts were meeting with potential OC, OL or RB coaches, negotiated a deal and already had the next guy on the hook before they told Lubick, Austin, Held or Verduzco they were gone.
There may have been some AD to Agent talk, but I have a hard time believing that the guy Frost is going to trust his future to was signed, sealed and delivered before meeting with Frost face to face. Unless of course that guy isn't currently coaching or is currently in an off the field role and there is already a relationship in place with Frost.
disagree completely.. if you have been paying any attention to what has been happening lately, Frost has zero leverage because he wants to remain as the head coach at Nebraska more than the money. He's already a rich man. He even agreed to a reduced buyout and practically begged to keep his job in the media. He had zero leverage here. Trev has all of it.
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Herman? Interesting, very interesting. Still find it hard to believe Herman would go to a 1 year dumpster fire over other Power 5 options with similar pay.
Unless he can turn the offense around in that year. In which case, he gets a second year and with continued improvement his stock rises.
you have to remember these guys don’t lack confidence. They all think they are going to do great things. There is no plan to fail.
I suspect it will be a guy who Frost and maybe even Trev know well enough that they don't have to meet face to face. Hell as long as Trev knows enough about the guy and his resume I doubt he even has to meet him face to face.
ALWAYS......THINK......THE......WORST!!!!! Helfrich and Frost have worked together very well in the past. Helfrich>Lubick. That said, there's no way to know who Frost is targeting. Let's hope it's some young guy who comes in and sets the world on fire like Joe Brady did at LSU.
I so badly want us to get Herman! he makes the most sense to me with his history and his offense rocks... He needs to rebuild his name as bad as Frost does... Motivation X2!
