New NCAA Signing rule

[BiscuitEater]

Paul posted about a new NCAA signing rule that goes into effect with the 2019 signing class ..

"The 2018 class is the final class where teams can count back prospects to the previous class, as in guys that sign in December. So starting with the Class of 2019, an SEC school is only allowed to sign 25 guys period. I imagine that may affect the number of sign-and-place guys that Mississippi State would have. I also believe it is vital for Mississippi State to sign as many as possible in this class to get to the full allotted 85 scholarship total."

Think that this rule will definitely impact OM especially if they get a 2-year bowl ban. Besides loss of scholarships, seems like they would NOT be able to oversign to make up for any possible transfers out of the program .. if they get a 2-year bowl ban and players are free to opt out of the plantation.

 

[GloryDawg]

Paul posted about a new NCAA signing rule that goes into effect with the 2019 signing class ..

"The 2018 class is the final class where teams can count back prospects to the previous class, as in guys that sign in December. So starting with the Class of 2019, an SEC school is only allowed to sign 25 guys period. I imagine that may affect the number of sign-and-place guys that Mississippi State would have. I also believe it is vital for Mississippi State to sign as many as possible in this class to get to the full allotted 85 scholarship total."

Think that this rule will definitely impact OM especially if they get a 2-year bowl ban. Besides loss of scholarships, seems like they would NOT be able to oversign to make up for any possible transfers out of the program .. if they get a 2-year bowl ban and players are free to opt out of the plantation.

So this is SEC only? If so why? Seems like it would hurt.

 

[57stratdawg]

It will hurt OM. So will the new transfer rules which apparently blindsided us.

 

[MaroonNation]

I heard the "anyone can immediately play" transfer rule was just being talked about. This would be a horrible rule and would destroy football at every school not named Alabama, Ohio State or USC. Our players would be recruited by other schools while they are playing for us if they were good? They would be gone. It would literally be "free agency" in college football. It's absolutely the craziest and dumbest rule I have ever heard of.

 

[RocketDawg]

I heard the "anyone can immediately play" transfer rule was just being talked about. This would be a horrible rule and would destroy football at every school not named Alabama, Ohio State or USC. Our players would be recruited by other schools while they are playing for us if they were good? They would be gone. It would literally be "free agency" in college football. It's absolutely the craziest and dumbest rule I have ever heard of.

Are they really proposing to do that? It pretty much would destroy college football, as you say. The only thing that might help keep it in check is the 85 scholarship limit.

 

[johnson86-1]

Paul posted about a new NCAA signing rule that goes into effect with the 2019 signing class ..

"The 2018 class is the final class where teams can count back prospects to the previous class, as in guys that sign in December. So starting with the Class of 2019, an SEC school is only allowed to sign 25 guys period. I imagine that may affect the number of sign-and-place guys that Mississippi State would have. I also believe it is vital for Mississippi State to sign as many as possible in this class to get to the full allotted 85 scholarship total."

Think that this rule will definitely impact OM especially if they get a 2-year bowl ban. Besides loss of scholarships, seems like they would NOT be able to oversign to make up for any possible transfers out of the program .. if they get a 2-year bowl ban and players are free to opt out of the plantation.

This doesn't make any sense to me. We're only allowed to sign 25 guys period now. Is the rule just changing the date by when signing classes are measured to something other than a calendar year?

 

[josebrown]

Are they really proposing to do that? It pretty much would destroy college football, as you say. The only thing that might help keep it in check is the 85 scholarship limit.

No, Paul is merely mentioning the fact that if the NCAA penalties imposed on Umiss includes the immediate transfer out eligibility of past classes then the new rule would hurt them even more not being able to back fill those schollies. In 2019 the new rule puts a hard limit of signing 25, so no one would be able to oversign anymore to back-fill lost schollies from transfers.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I propose the NCAA drop the max yearly scholarships per program to 75 and add the 10 to the baseball program. I mean, Mullen self imposes 75 scholarship limit on us already. We need everyone else to be at the same level!***

 

[BiscuitEater]

This doesn't make any sense to me. We're only allowed to sign 25 guys period now. Is the rule just changing the date by when signing classes are measured to something other than a calendar year?

Yes, teams are limited to signing 25 per class BUT they currently can sign 'extra' players to make up for those that don't make it into school of that original 25. MSU had two OL that had to go to JC and lost one DL to Jackson State that didn't qualify. So, this Dec, State can sign more than 25 to backfill those that didn't make it. BUT, this is the last year that can happen. In 2019 and beyond, 25 is the limit.

Least that's the way

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I think can also use unfilled numbers from the previous class. We signed like 22-23 this past class I believe, so we could add those 2-3 to the 5 we didn't get in (2-OL, Ellis, Pope, DL who's name escapes me).

 

[Todd4State]

Yes, teams are limited to signing 25 per class BUT they currently can sign 'extra' players to make up for those that don't make it into school of that original 25. MSU had two OL that had to go to JC and lost one DL to Jackson State that didn't qualify. So, this Dec, State can sign more than 25 to backfill those that didn't make it. BUT, this is the last year that can happen. In 2019 and beyond, 25 is the limit.

Least that's the way

It means we have to be a lot more careful about any academic risks that we sign. We aren't going to be able to risk signing a Montravious Richardson anymore. And on the flip side of that- we've gotten some guys in too- but I can't recall who they are off the top of my head. We would have been burned badly this year by this rule if it was in place.

I bet Dan will just tell guys that we've been traditionally signing and placing to just go to Co-Lin and we'll get back to you in two years but you can't be in the class this year.

 

[dickiedawg]

I heard the "anyone can immediately play" transfer rule was just being talked about. This would be a horrible rule and would destroy football at every school not named Alabama, Ohio State or USC. Our players would be recruited by other schools while they are playing for us if they were good? They would be gone. It would literally be "free agency" in college football. It's absolutely the craziest and dumbest rule I have ever heard of.

The article I read on it said they wanted uniformity. Right now there are different rules in different sports, plus the "grad transfer" rule that is picking up steam means two sets of rules within the same sport.

I find it much more likely that they make everyone sit out rather than the alternative of free transfers for everyone.

 

[johnson86-1]

Yes, teams are limited to signing 25 per class BUT they currently can sign 'extra' players to make up for those that don't make it into school of that original 25. MSU had two OL that had to go to JC and lost one DL to Jackson State that didn't qualify. So, this Dec, State can sign more than 25 to backfill those that didn't make it. BUT, this is the last year that can happen. In 2019 and beyond, 25 is the limit.

Least that's the way

So are they just doing away with the ability to replace signed guys who do not qualify? Or are they also doing away with the ability to sign guys in december and count them in the previous February's class when they didn't sign 25 in the previous class?