New Jersey loves Biden
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I know lots who supported him. We stopped by our old stomping ground a couple of months ago...I never brought up politics. When we were leaving, they said thanks for not bringing it up...buyers remorse.
I'm in construction & the people I meet didnt support him , hell even my BA didnt vote for him .the Portuguese I work with didnt vote for him at least the ones I work with. Those folks know how to cook .
I got ya. My Dad was a union sprinkler fitter...staunch Republican. My mother was in a union and worked in a factory...she thought the union was always right...would strike for .20 an hour and lose enough wages that it would take the 2 years to make up the lost wages but she always supported it. I do have friends in NJ who are ex military but vote nod. dim...but by most standards they are conservative.
I'm 3rd generation union & I believe in what they should stand for, with having said that , they are a necessary evil at best & public sector unions dont have enough accountability in the contract. Private sector unions is run so differently it's crazy. I was Democrat growing up & until late 20's now just independent...most people I work with is predominantly right wing but some are still fooled into thinking Democrats are for unions & the working class......as they sell our soul to China
I have no problem with skilled labor unions. They perform a service and coordinate work on projects across a geographic area that maintains work year round. My Dad's union did not strike a day the whole time we was in the union. We had great insurance and made a living for his family
My mothers union was a national union, but the plant was local, is a different story. The work was in a factory...they did not move around. They forced strikes which gave the union more money but delivered little for the workers...that type of union has no place in a modern workforce. Too many laws for companies to adhere that a union used to force companies to make it safer is no longer needed.
When we lived in Louisville one of friends worked at a Toyota plant. They tried to unionize and it was crushed by the employees...Toyota offered more than a union could offer. Had another friend who worked at Ford and was a union rep. He hated his life and Ford...all he wanted to do was strike...and he made 6 figures.
The industry I work in is loaded with union folks...assemblers, parts suppliers, technicians...UAW...they have a place but sometimes they make things more difficult than they should be when focusing on satisfying our customer's changing demands should be the primary objective IMO. Between them and the Government mandates on manufacturers, it's a wonder anyone can afford the price of brand new fully equipped vehicle now-a-days.
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My dad worked for Weirton Steel they had a Independent Steelworker's union. National steel came down and said unless they joined the national steelworkers union they would close down the plant. When they refused National Steel pulled the plug, taught me all I needed to know about national unions.
100% agree. That is why the last new vehicle I bought was in 2000. I buy certified used and keep the maintenance up and do a full detail at least every two months. I know this goes against your living, but I won't spend $50-60,000 on something that loses 10-20% of it's value every year. If it was a work related vehicle and I got to write it off or a company gave me a car allowance, I might have a different view on it, but my personal vehicle would be cert. used.
Unions...good & bad ...I enjoy the fact I can work for 20 different contractors & my benefit go to the same place . We have a non strike clause in our contract.
Used to be all union members voted Democrat, that has changed drastically in my 30 years in most of us are independent leaning right
Because of what you & so many others are doing too, the prices on pre-owned vehicles is going up dramatically! Heavy demand +limited supply=higher prices. Make no mistake, there is heavy demand for good low mileage pre-owned vehicles for the exact reasons you state. Still lots of folks don't want to buy someone else's trouble, so they prefer new. You have the best solution...purchase certified pre-owned with an extended warranty. Save $$$$$$ and have peace-of-mind. I wouldn't buy pre-owned unless it was 100% certified with a full extended warranty and under 50K mileage.
Can't disagree with you. Was talking to my BIL from TX. He usually buys new every 3-5 years. Always a Ford truck. His bank (on the board) does business with a lot of dealers. He said he went to trade in his truck and they wanted $5,000 over invoice (total $75,000) and he walked. He has FU money and is willing to wait this one out.
I bought a used Toyota Highlander a couple of months ago. Really wanted a Lincoln MKX but could not find one that met my requirements. It took me 3 months trying to find a MKX (no luck) and a month to find the Highlander. Really pleased with the Toyota and realized that with a kid still in college having the extra space was needed.
Truck hold their value pretty good. I always buy the previous model after the new year model comes out. I know this year is the exception, but after rebates I typically pay about the same for a brand new truck than a low mile newer used truck.
Last car I bought was a jeep compass, first non GM vehicle I have bought in 20 years. figured we could downsize from the Yukon (which we gave to our son) Big mistake my wife hates it even more than I do.
There is a reason pickups are our #1 seller. Sorry about your Jeep. Have you looked into the new Ford Bronco?
No I am a Chevy guy, but if the Bronco gets mature with few problems it could be an option.
The Highlander is a very popular SUV. Good truck, outstanding resale value. Available parts and reliable! Toyotas hold their value because they hold up!
Good pick. Guys like you make my job of moving shiny new metal and squeaky new rubber messy....but I always remind my customers no one else has farted in their driver's seat!
Theirs more commission in used vehicles. Hopefully you can sell both.The Highlander is a very popular SUV. Good truck, outstanding resale value. Available parts and reliable! Toyotas hold their value because they hold up!
Good pick. Guys like you make my job of moving shiny new metal and squeaky new rubber messy....but I always remind my customers no one else has farted in their driver's seat!
No not really (on commissions) too many variables. Haphazard financing, lien holders, costly title transfers, reconditioning costs, warranties....all those expenses have to be made up on the sale price and folks always want to "haggle" over pre-owned....so it's not really worth it when all of those things eat into your dealer profit which ultimately eats into your sales commission.
Better for me to stay with new units. Costs are fixed minus dealer incentives, better money to make on the back end of the deal with dealer financing as opposed to secondary lenders, I can sell extended warranties easier (folks generally want to spend more protecting their new investments) accessories are easier to add on with less resistence from buyers (again higher profit margins there too) less chance of selling someone else's problem, which then becomes your problem, don't have to deal with parts and after-market suppliers to make the pre-owned units "sellable" and new units cost more so they are more profitable to the dealership which means my commission checks are fatter.
Selling pre-owned? No thanks.
The price for used 3/4 & 1 ton trucks is outrageous. I buy new work trucks & only get the XL gasser. Still running my '14 f250 6.2 L 250,000 & cant find nothing wrong with it . Paid 28,000 .
In December I bought '21 f250 with the new 7.3 Godzilla 48,000,$ dont drive it much but when I do I'm very impressed . Took it to NJ & when I drove like a normal person was getting 17 mpg , but my driving habits I get about 15 .
Will be converting it over to my welding rig this winter....maybe.
In December I bought '21 f250 with the new 7.3 Godzilla 48,000,$ dont drive it much but when I do I'm very impressed . Took it to NJ & when I drove like a normal person was getting 17 mpg , but my driving habits I get about 15 .
Will be converting it over to my welding rig this winter....maybe.
That's outstanding! Folks who buy pre-owned do save $$$$$$ but they also don't realize they're paying to fix whatever was wrong with the vehicle before the previous owner traded it! Dealers don't fix those vehicles for "free", and whatever it costs them to make it right goes straight back into the sales price to recover those expenses.
Hopefully a good service technician properly diagnosed and corrected all issues, but often times dealers will only service the most obvious or least costly items and leave the rest to unsuspecting "bargain hunters". Sorry to admit this, but that's just the way it is with pre-owned.
They're (Dealers) NOT going to lose money on those deals! You're doing good keeping that '14 workhorse running, and the new one you have is a gem. [thumbsup]
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I dont hang out in the shitholes, I stay around decent hard working highly skilled scummy deplorables.
I happen to work right now in Newark (********) & they support Biden.