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Retired711

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Yeah, he was bad. But yet Christie managed to be worse. I believe it was lower than the 1994 budget what he tried- and then he targeted the professor who issued a redistricting map he did not like to have them lose all their funding.

Corzine did donate to the stadium expansion; Christie considered closing the bball program.

Corzine was the reason we couldn't get a state loan for the stadium expanion -- a loan that would have turned out to be a grant the way NJ works. And when Corzine rejected the loan, he promised to raise money for the project -- only to be told by his attorney general that there would be illegal, which I'm sure Corzine knew in the first place. It is difficult to defend Corzine in his relationship with RU.
 
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RC85

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LMAO

Look at all the GOP did for RU, like when Christie reduced our funding to 1990s levels and consulted with Mike Brey about shutting the bball program down.

The only one who had a deal with Norcross was Christie himself.

Nothing better than watching you and the two others left in the Christie fan club try to defend him. And you won't even get your nickel a post to do it anymore! Sad!
As disappointed as I am with Christie generally, he did sign Lesniak's bill to save RU hoops.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/christie-has-signed-the-bill.67677/
 

Retired711

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both Murphy and Barchi may have UPenn connections

both do. Murphy earned his M.B.A. from the Wharton School at Penn (same place that graduated Trump, but that was for a B.A.), while Barchi was provost of Penn for years. I doubt this is enough of a connection to make one like the other.
 

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Who was the last governor who was a TRUE CHAMPION for Rutgers? Sadly we haven't had any since we have entered into big- time athletics (i.e. not playing Bucknell or Cornell on a fall Saturday afternoon).
 

Retired711

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Who was the last governor who was a TRUE CHAMPION for Rutgers? Sadly we haven't had any since we have entered into big- time athletics (i.e. not playing Bucknell or Cornell on a fall Saturday afternoon).

can't think of any. Maybe Tom Kean in the 1980s; maybe Tom Cahill in the early 1970s. All before Rutgers became truly big-time. Rutgers does not seem to be as popular in New Jersey as most state universities are in their home state.
 

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Not to get too historical... but the problem with lack of commitment can actually be traced to the words of Dr. Bloustein, who made the announcement that Rutgers was going to engage in "bigger-time" athletics. When he made the statement, it confused a lot of folks! Bigger-time athletics is not the same as big-time athletics. Bigger-time athletics actually meant playing a few top teams and getting your heads bashed in--and not making any significant financial commitment.
 

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According to the January 10, 1973 Targum, Edward Bloustein, who became Rutgers President in 1971 said, “It is my conviction that our intercollegiate athletic program should enjoy more interest from throughout New Jersey than currently is the case. I believe such a program would boost state pride, alumni spirit and student morale, thereby increasing support for all University programs. We feel strongly about the educational value of athletics and the enjoyment which such competition can give to participants and spectators alike.” After studying the situation, President Bloustein was quoted in the September 19, 1973 Targum as saying, “…our spirit is willing, but the dollar is weak.”
 

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Doesn't matter what we think today. Everyone was sucking Christies toes in 2010 .He was the big cheese. How did that work out for us?Corzinne was hated as well. Is this state so damaged that the position may never be filled adequately.?The weed tax will help but the street guys will just lower their prices and put a dent in it. This is a wealthy state with a diminishing white population a growing asian and latino population a diminishing blue collar population and a growing poor population.. and a lot of boomers waiting for retirement money that may not be there .Jersey is at the forefront of the red state vs blue state world that we now reside in

Not a job for everyone.
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Retired711

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According to the January 10, 1973 Targum, Edward Bloustein, who became Rutgers President in 1971 said, “It is my conviction that our intercollegiate athletic program should enjoy more interest from throughout New Jersey than currently is the case. I believe such a program would boost state pride, alumni spirit and student morale, thereby increasing support for all University programs. We feel strongly about the educational value of athletics and the enjoyment which such competition can give to participants and spectators alike.” After studying the situation, President Bloustein was quoted in the September 19, 1973 Targum as saying, “…our spirit is willing, but the dollar is weak.”

I know that many of the young people here view Bloustein as part of a golden age, but he was also very talented at talking out of both sides of his mouth. I know; I was at Rutgers when he was president.
 

e5fdny

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Who was the last governor who was a TRUE CHAMPION for Rutgers? Sadly we haven't had any since we have entered into big- time athletics (i.e. not playing Bucknell or Cornell on a fall Saturday afternoon).
can't think of any. Maybe Tom Kean in the 1980s; maybe Tom Cahill in the early 1970s. All before Rutgers became truly big-time. Rutgers does not seem to be as popular in New Jersey as most state universities are in their home state.
The last IMO was Tom Kean.
 

DJ Spanky

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Corzine was the reason we couldn't get a state loan for the stadium expanion -- a loan that would have turned out to be a grant the way NJ works. And when Corzine rejected the loan, he promised to raise money for the project -- only to be told by his attorney general that there would be illegal, which I'm sure Corzine knew in the first place. It is difficult to defend Corzine in his relationship with RU.
I don't think he raised a damn dime for us, did he?
 

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Murphy doesn't owe anybody anything. There were no favors exchanged in securing the nomination. Murphy laundered $10 million across all the county chairs and locked up the ballot positions. He did the same thing with the major unions, to get their endorsements.

Sadly, politics in America has become the ultimate bastardization of the Golden Rule. Murphy has much gold.

Politics at it's worst. Just like Corzine, Murphy spread his considerable wealth around to all of the county Democratic chairpersons in return for their support in the primary... basically ensuring no other candidate had the support to oppose him. I have no idea what he promised the public employee unions to get their support but whatever it is, it's going to cost $$.
 

JonathanAlan

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First, this probably ought to be on the Current Events board, and I encourage the moderators to move it there.

I don't believe Governor-elect Murphy has said *anything* about Rutgers. He seems to have a lot of other prioritie (e.g. pre-kindergarten) , and he thinks NJ should significantly raise taxes to pay for them. But there is no way he will get the legislature (even a Democratic legislature) to increase taxes enough for his wish list. We will see what he actually accomplishes.

Just so you know where I'm coming from, I voted for Murphy but very reluctantly.
I live in Massachusetts which has lost its reputation as Taxachusetts . I can't believe that Murphy wants to raise taxes on top of the outrageous property taxes levied in NJ...I read the recent WSJ editorial that said the average property tax bill in Essex County on a median $427K home is $11,597. Unbelievable and still not enough?
 

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Just to provide some accurate info. Murphy has been on the campus of Rutgers numerous times. He ia an owner of Sky Blue FC whose team plays its games at Yurcak Field. He was instrumental in getting the team playing there.

He is a big fan of Rutgers being our State University and a member of the Big 10. He is pro Rutgers and while governor should not do anything to jeapordise the reputation or status of the University. You will probably see him wearing Rutgers gear somewhere down the line.

I hope this helps.
 

RULoyal

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Doesn't matter what we think today. Everyone was sucking Christies toes in 2010 .He was the big cheese. How did that work out for us?Corzinne was hated as well. Is this state so damaged that the position may never be filled adequately.?The weed tax will help but the street guys will just lower their prices and put a dent in it. This is a wealthy state with a diminishing white population a growing asian and latino population a diminishing blue collar population and a growing poor population.. and a lot of boomers waiting for retirement money that may not be there .Jersey is at the forefront of the red state vs blue state world that we now reside in

Not a job for everyone.
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But those with jobs will be assured $15/hr.
 

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They can't take Rutgers Camden. All the money in corruption comes from expansion - building things. Hence the Camden fields deal. Building means money moving around, which means opportunity to hire all sorts of folks, which means opportunities for graft, skimming and kickbacks.

From where I sit, the big play for Norcross is to get Rowan funding tied to Rutgers funding. Maybe not equal, but some play to treat both the State's "flagship universities" on par with each other. Which of course F*cks Rutgers, and ensures lots of money to throw around south jersey.
 

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They can't take Rutgers Camden. All the money in corruption comes from expansion - building things. Hence the Camden fields deal. Building means money moving around, which means opportunity to hire all sorts of folks, which means opportunities for graft, skimming and kickbacks.

From where I sit, the big play for Norcross is to get Rowan funding tied to Rutgers funding. Maybe not equal, but some play to treat both the State's "flagship universities" on par with each other. Which of course F*cks Rutgers, and ensures lots of money to throw around south jersey.
Good post.
 

JoeRU

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Who was the last governor who was a TRUE CHAMPION for Rutgers? Sadly we haven't had any since we have entered into big- time athletics (i.e. not playing Bucknell or Cornell on a fall Saturday afternoon).
Tom Kean
 

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we know Christie was a sports fan and knew the importance of the Big 10 even if he didnt cheer for RU....we know nothing about Murphy but he might owe south Jersey dems something
He's my neighbor. Can't stand him and his onterage.
 

BigLou

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Murphy is in bed with Norcross. He cut a deal with him to keep Sweeney out of the primaries and now will collect his payback. Norcross wants full control or increased control of RU Camden, so let's see what happens.

A vote for Murphy was a vote against RU.

This.
Murphy had the nomination in the bag before a primary vote was cast because 1) he paid off the county parties to get their endorsement, 2) he got Norcross to keep Sweeny out of the race and 3) he promised every special interest group everything they wanted. $16 million of his own money to win the job. Nice.
 

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Agreed this should be on the CE board. Until it is...

The Governor-elect's comments give one pause, as he proudly stated that he had called Jerry Brown and 'wanted NJ to be the east coast's CA' in terms of taxes, progressive policies and sanctuary issues. Not sure that's a great model...

Christie ran his course and let everyone down in a major way. After the backlash, now NJ's citizens have to deal with a guy who wants to raise billions in taxes to pay for all of the promises he made during the campaign to everyone who'd listen.
That is scary, if true. California is a financial mess. Especially with regard to public pension obligations. Google California pension crisis and you will find enough reading to make your hair curl permanently. Or straighten it if it is curly. It is the quintisential example of what happens when politicians sell out to unions in exhange for power.
 

e5fdny

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I'm sure they are already looking at how to divvy up our B1G bucks.
I have said this since 2012 on the Issues Board as soon as the B1G announcement was made.

Somebody in Trenton or somewhere else in this State (guessing southern part) will try. Whether they are successful or not, I’m not sure. But you watch, they’re going to give it a shot.

And this is how they're going to try first...

He's a Norcross/ Sweeny puppet. Sweeny wants to control Rutgers governing board. Look for him to make another run at it now with his puppet in office.
You can set your watch to this happened soon.
 

jmg75

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This is funny, and you're not far off. Its a popularity contest at this level, and if even on a subconscious level, you'll go a lot further if you're not repulsive to look at.

I do think that Murphy looks like Fire Marshal Bill, though.
I think he looks like actor Michael Keaton, which scares me. Makes me think New Jersey is in for a Beetlejuice experience.
 

e5fdny

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They can't take Rutgers Camden. All the money in corruption comes from expansion - building things. Hence the Camden fields deal. Building means money moving around, which means opportunity to hire all sorts of folks, which means opportunities for graft, skimming and kickbacks.

From where I sit, the big play for Norcross is to get Rowan funding tied to Rutgers funding. Maybe not equal, but some play to treat both the State's "flagship universities" on par with each other. Which of course F*cks Rutgers, and ensures lots of money to throw around south jersey.
Will all the building going on down in Glassboro, this certainly does look like the plan...

Rowan = MSU
Rutgers = UM
 

e5fdny

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Just to provide some accurate info. Murphy has been on the campus of Rutgers numerous times. He is an owner of Sky Blue FC whose team plays its games at Yurcak Field. He was instrumental in getting the team playing there.

He is a big fan of Rutgers being our State University and a member of the Big 10. He is pro Rutgers and while governor should not do anything to jeopardize the reputation or status of the University. You will probably see him wearing Rutgers gear somewhere down the line.

I hope this helps.
Thank you.

Good to hear this.
 

AreYouNUTS

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They can't take Rutgers Camden. All the money in corruption comes from expansion - building things. Hence the Camden fields deal. Building means money moving around, which means opportunity to hire all sorts of folks, which means opportunities for graft, skimming and kickbacks.

From where I sit, the big play for Norcross is to get Rowan funding tied to Rutgers funding. Maybe not equal, but some play to treat both the State's "flagship universities" on par with each other. Which of course F*cks Rutgers, and ensures lots of money to throw around south jersey.

lol @ Rowan and "flagship" in the same sentence...