New Census
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and what is the idiocracy? In actual factual terms. Not slogans or memes.
The democrat party platform along with the performance of the Biden admin is idiocracy.
Not surprised at this response. @TigerGrowls clearly stated it without memes or slogans.
Thats not a real answer. What policy or laws are you talking about?
Let's be real... you have no clue what you are talking about.
Oh you want to play? List the policies you think are bad. List the bills proposed you are against that you believe you are fighting against. Cheap slogans and adjectives are not enough.
Please give me your full summary with detail and I will consider replying if I feel like it. Please use paragraphs.
my summary:
I think you know nothing about politics or government and you only whine and moan on the internet to feel good about yourself while you watch security cameras all night at the belk outlet mall store.
You dummy.
It's more than "standard practice." It's what the Constitution requires. If you or your Orange Demigod have a problem with that, then seek a constitutional amendment. I'm sure that will work out well for you.
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OK, then. If we are a constitutional republic, that necessarily means our fundamental governing document is the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution expressly provides for the Census, which is referred to as the "actual Enumeration" in the Census Clause (Article I, Section 2, Clause 3). The Census Clause exclusively refers to "persons," not "citizens." You should read it some time.
Dear Constitutional Absolutist,
Do you agree with gun control? Or are you a hypocrite.
Regards,
2A
The definition of persons in that regard is "citizens". George Washington said so.
I remember a lot of people complaining that illegals were getting counted in the census.
But they never bothered to ask the question of why Trump was allowing it to happen.
Evidence.
To transform the census and permanently make it so that only citizens are counted, you need to gather the evidence of fraud.
EVERYTHING that Trump does or “allows” is strategic.
Transparency before transformation.
Trump is ending the democrats use of the census to rig elections for Congressional seats.
While most people just react to the story of the day, Trump is ALWAYS focused on the “long game.”
Enjoy the show.
George Washington may have said so, but the U.S. Constitution does not say so. The Founding Fathers deliberately elected to use the term "persons" (rather than "citizens") in the Census Clause. They elected to use the term "citizens" in various other parts of the Constitution, but not in the Census Clause. Here's a short excerpt from the Web on the subject::
Yes, the U.S. Constitution uses the term "citizens" in several places, including stipulations for holding office and in relation to state citizenship.
Specifically, the Constitution refers to "citizens of the United States" when outlining qualifications for members of Congress, and for the President, who must be a "natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution". Additionally, the Constitution references state citizenship in the Privileges and Immunities Clause and in provisions for federal court jurisdiction.
The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, also plays a crucial role in defining citizenship. Section 1 of the 14th Amendment declares that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," according to the LII | Legal Information Institute. This amendment reversed the Dred Scott decision, which had previously denied citizenship to African Americans
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Do we have volunteer militias these days? Perhaps you should read the introductory dependent clause of the 2nd Amendment.
I get that you are arguing legal semantics, but I have to ask.....are you really OK counting illegals in the Census?
"Militia" could mean either a volunteer militia or a standing, career militia. The 2nd Amendment clearly referred to a volunteer militia comprised of non-professional soldiers. In other words, people who have some other occupation, and only serve occasionally, and in a volunteer capacity. They were expected to bring their gun with them when they reported for service.
Do you believe that "illegals? are "persons?" If so, then they should be counted. You make this sound as if there is some ginormous advantage for Democrats in this. You must realize that a substantial part of the illegal immigrant population lives in Florida and Texas, which are red states.
Why would that matter? The SC ruled that 2A is an individual right in 2008. What was the most recent ruling on counting illegal aliens in the census?
Say they do count every single illegal here, of what benefit is that to the illegal? Are you wanting to count them so they can be rounded up and deported? You are claiming right here that a substantial portion of these folks are in red states that will comply with ICE and deport them. I’m not sure what the play is here.
Important.
If you want to see the “PLAN” in action and refute the black pill doom and gloomers, just look at this fight Trump has purposely picked with the democrats over the redrawing of Congressional districts and the “census.”
The media and democrats are all saying that the Supreme Court has ALREADY ruled on and approved of illegals being counted in the census.
But that’s not what happened.
Timing is everything.
The Supreme Court didn’t rule on that question at all.
“The U.S. Supreme Court has not definitively ruled that undocumented immigrants must be counted in the census for congressional apportionment. In 2020, the Court dismissed a challenge to President Trump’s memorandum seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants from the apportionment base, but it did so on procedural grounds, stating the case was premature and speculative because the policy details were not yet finalized. The Court did not rule on the constitutional merits of whether noncitizens must be included in the apportionment count.”
It was a ruling by a lower court that forced Trump to count illegals.
Which begs the question:
Why didn’t Trump appeal that ruling to the Supreme Court?
Answer:
Trump allowed illegals to be counted so that he could gather “evidence” of how many illegals are being counted in every state.
One of the priorities of DOGE, was to determine how many illegals there are in each state receiving government assistance of any kind.
Checkmate.
Trump now has the evidence in hand for the fight on this topic at the Supreme Court.
He will win and he ALREADY knows it.
Why?
Because the Constitution is very clear.
ONLY citizens are allowed to vote.
The census determines apportionment of Congressional seats in the House of representatives.
By including illegals in the census, that distorts the true representation of American citizens and has added a large number of democrat representatives in EVERY STATE, who should not be in office.
Trump is going to win this fight that he is purposely picking with the democrats over the redrawing of Congressional districts.
Trump tricked the democrats into making this fight, the biggest story in the country.
He welcomes their lawsuits to try and stop him because he ALREADY knows he will win and the Supreme Court is going to once again, clean up the courts and reset the country back to the original intent of the Constitution.
This will permanently end the democrat party’s chances at ever winning the House again.
If you want to see the “PLAN” in action and refute the black pill doom and gloomers, just look at this fight Trump has purposely picked with the democrats over the redrawing of Congressional districts and the “census.”
The media and democrats are all saying that the Supreme Court has ALREADY ruled on and approved of illegals being counted in the census.
But that’s not what happened.
Timing is everything.
The Supreme Court didn’t rule on that question at all.
“The U.S. Supreme Court has not definitively ruled that undocumented immigrants must be counted in the census for congressional apportionment. In 2020, the Court dismissed a challenge to President Trump’s memorandum seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants from the apportionment base, but it did so on procedural grounds, stating the case was premature and speculative because the policy details were not yet finalized. The Court did not rule on the constitutional merits of whether noncitizens must be included in the apportionment count.”
It was a ruling by a lower court that forced Trump to count illegals.
Which begs the question:
Why didn’t Trump appeal that ruling to the Supreme Court?
Answer:
Trump allowed illegals to be counted so that he could gather “evidence” of how many illegals are being counted in every state.
One of the priorities of DOGE, was to determine how many illegals there are in each state receiving government assistance of any kind.
Checkmate.
Trump now has the evidence in hand for the fight on this topic at the Supreme Court.
He will win and he ALREADY knows it.
Why?
Because the Constitution is very clear.
ONLY citizens are allowed to vote.
The census determines apportionment of Congressional seats in the House of representatives.
By including illegals in the census, that distorts the true representation of American citizens and has added a large number of democrat representatives in EVERY STATE, who should not be in office.
Trump is going to win this fight that he is purposely picking with the democrats over the redrawing of Congressional districts.
Trump tricked the democrats into making this fight, the biggest story in the country.
He welcomes their lawsuits to try and stop him because he ALREADY knows he will win and the Supreme Court is going to once again, clean up the courts and reset the country back to the original intent of the Constitution.
This will permanently end the democrat party’s chances at ever winning the House again.
I'm getting excited about this census thing y'all... been researching it for a while, and just discovered something.
People keep claiming that SCOTUS issued a ruling declaring that Illegals must be counted during a census, but after digging deeper, that's NOT the issue that was decided in Department of Commerce v. New York (2020). That was an administrative violations/procedural case that upheld Census Bureau's existing precedent of counting all persons present.
The merits of non-citizens being excluded were never ruled on by SCOTUS, and since then... the Chevron Doctrine was overturned gutting an agency's independent power to make **** up. NOW the Dept of Commerce, and the Census Bureau are squarely under Trump's control.
The only remaining hurdle is a simple majority bill passage in House/Senate to modify Title 13 U.S.C. § 141... which expressly prohibits an interim census being used to apportion congress... which is an ordinate statute passed by a simple majority.
TG: You see those dark red pieces in that California jigsaw puzzle? Those are the places where virtually no one lives.
You see those blue spaces along the coast? That is where the people live, and most of the economic activity takes place. The lone exception is the agricultural industry, which is big. In fact, it is California's single largest industry. And guess what? It would crumble if not for the labor provided by "illegals." Keep that in mind the next time you eat a salad.
As for Steven Miller, he's a nut job. He's certifiable. His own family reviles him.
TBH, I'm not sure government can move fast enough to conduct a census by 2026. Do they have enough time, money?You dummy.
It's more than "standard practice." It's what the Constitution requires. If you or your Orange Demigod have a problem with that, then seek a constitutional amendment. I'm sure that will work out well for you.
Now constitutionally it might not be legal, but it would be nice data to find out how our congressional map would look if only citizens were counted.
Not counting illegals needs to be codified in law, but i have almost zero faith that a republican congress can get their **** together enough to do it.
Everybody stop what you’re doing and watch this.
Vice President JD Vance just delivered a masterclass and exposed how Democrats rig elections.
He calls out the 2020 election having “major statistical errors” of red states being undercounted and blue states overcounted.
The solution? Redo the census and redistrict.
“If you actually did the census anew right now, you would have 10 additional Republican seats and nine fewer Democrat seats.”
We're living with the consequence of 40 years of institutional control in the Democratic Party. These guys have fought very dirty for a very long time.”
“Thankfully, under President Trump's leadership, you finally see some spine, you finally see some backbone in the Republican Party to fight back against these very aggressive Democratic dirty tricks.”
“The only way for us to do it is to actually go and do the hard work, to reset the scales a little bit. What we want to do is redo the census. But importantly, we want to redistrict some of these red states, and we want to make the congressional apportionment fair in this country.”
TG:
1. What is this word "awwrr" you posted? Are you practicing to be a pirate?
2. This illegal alien voting thing has gotten way out of hand, right?!! I mean, just ask the folks at the Heritage Foundation, who assembled a ginormous database concerning voting over the last 40 years. They were able to document a whopping 68 cases of noncitizen voting going back to the mid 1980's. That's all non-citizens, including both illegal and legal immigrants. Over a billion votes have been cast in thousands of federal elections during that 40 year period, so the incidence of proven noncitizen voting is extremely rare, something like 0.00001%. That makes it even rarer than the odds of becoming a tranny, which are remarkably small to begin with.
Here's a link to the report on the Heritage Foundation's embarrassing efforts to document the "scourge" of noncitizen voting:
Unpacking Myths About Noncitizen Voting — How Heritage Foundation’s Own Data Proves It’s Not a Problem - American Immigration Council
A close examination of the evidence put forward by critics shows just how extraordinarily rare noncitizen voting truly is.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
So you're saying you have no personal agency, and want me to do your thinking for you. OK. I'm not sure I want to take on that responsibility, but I get it. Better me than Cheeto Hitler.
No, Cheeto Hitler is not my cousin. But he tends to overdo it with the bronzer, dont'cha think?
The least he could do is apply it a little more thoroughly. Check out the (spray) tan lines above and below his temple. Yikes.
I have to admit, of all the things that concern me about trump, tan lines don't make the top 50No, Cheeto Hitler is not my cousin. But he tends to overdo it with the bronzer, dont'cha think?
The least he could do is apply it a little more thoroughly. Check out the (spray) tan lines above and below his temple. Yikes.
This might be one of the dumbest series of Tweets I have ever seen posted. Congrats.
