New Baseball coach

[o_Bushmaster]

Welp we’re one month removed from PM getting canned, and while the schedule does ease up going forward, I don’t think ML is going to be the guy. So.. …, who you got?
I like Ramsey at GT. He’s young, was a great college player, drafted first round, has learned under 2 good ones in Danny Hall and Mike Martin. Not a big sample size since he’s a first year head coach, but hey that’s more of a sample size than hiring an assistant.
Not sure who else Donati may be considering since it sounds like Schall would be a long shot.

 

[Piscis]

Welp we’re one month removed from PM getting canned, and while the schedule does ease up going forward, I don’t think ML is going to be the guy. So.. …, who you got?
I like Ramsey at GT. He’s young, was a great college player, drafted first round, has learned under 2 good ones in Danny Hall and Mike Martin. Not a big sample size since he’s a first year head coach, but hey that’s more of a sample size than hiring an assistant.
Not sure who else Donati may be considering since it sounds like Schall would be a long shot.

What possible reason would Ramsey have for leaving GT? GT will likely give him a huge raise after this season and he has a solid foundation.

South Carolina baseball is a total dumpster fire, along with all other men's sports. I don't think Donati is going to have his pick of whoever he wants. The same is going to be true for basketball and, most likely, football. I don't know why some people think coaching jobs at South Carolina are some sort of plum job that every coach in America is hoping and praying they will be offered.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

This is why Powell makes sense. He would welcome the challenge of coming home and returning the program to its former greatness.
And I think the fans would support him in this quest.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

What possible reason would Ramsey have for leaving GT? GT will likely give him a huge raise after this season and he has a solid foundation.

South Carolina baseball is a total dumpster fire, along with all other men's sports. I don't think Donati is going to have his pick of whoever he wants. The same is going to be true for basketball and, most likely, football. I don't know why some people think coaching jobs at South Carolina are some sort of plum job that every coach in America is hoping and praying they will be offered.

Ray left his alma mater after many more successful seasons at NCState. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to expect Donati to be able to entice Ramsey away from GT maybe even no more than it would be for someone to convince you to back away from the ledge.
We still get SEC money compared to ACC and we have much more of a tradition and fanbase here to support baseball. It ain’t rocket scientry

 

[o_Bushmaster]

This is why Powell makes sense. He would welcome the challenge of coming home and returning the program to its former greatness.
And I think the fans would support him in this quest.

No way. Has he ever coached at this level anywhere?

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

As stated above, what prize coach is going to come to a dumpster fire?

 

[18IsTheMan]

As stated above, what prize coach is going to come to a dumpster fire?

I think we are still seen as brand name in college baseball circles, albeit a damaged one.

 

[KingWard]

I think we are still seen as brand name in college baseball circles, albeit a damaged one.

If we're a brand name, it's equivalent to Edsel.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If we're a brand name, it's equivalent to Edsel.

lol...maybe more like New Coke. The brand is strong...the rebrand is not.

I don't think we're a top tier job any longer, but I do still think we're seen as a place where the right coach can win big. The big caveat is "within college baseball". Recruits don't care about our history. Of course, the further and futher we get from our previous success, the relevance diminishes (if any is left). I think of our baseball program like Alabama football in the decade prior to them hiring Saban. Still a relevant brand....just a total mess of one.

 

[Viennacock]

What possible reason would Ramsey have for leaving GT? GT will likely give him a huge raise after this season and he has a solid foundation.

South Carolina baseball is a total dumpster fire, along with all other men's sports. I don't think Donati is going to have his pick of whoever he wants. The same is going to be true for basketball and, most likely, football. I don't know why some people think coaching jobs at South Carolina are some sort of plum job that every coach in America is hoping and praying they will be offered.

Agreed. No way i would leave GT for USC. I think coaches are realizing that a good job and good pay with job security is often better than a good job with great pay.

 

[Piscis]

Ray left his alma mater after many more successful seasons at NCState. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to expect Donati to be able to entice Ramsey away from GT maybe even no more than it would be for someone to convince you to back away from the ledge.
We still get SEC money compared to ACC and we have much more of a tradition and fanbase here to support baseball. It ain’t rocket scientry

GT is traditionally good in baseball and have been for quite some time. They won the ACC championship last year. Their fan support of baseball is pretty strong. This is not some small college team.

I think you have an inflated opinion of SC baseball in its current state. It has been 15 years since the last CWS championship and SEC regular season championship. Today's HS kids were still in diapers or were celebrating their new potty training the last time SC won a baseball championship. SEC money is good, but we are getting it now and doesn't seem to be helping too much.

I'm not on the ledge, I'm firmly planted in reality. The baseball coaching job at South Carolina isn't a dream job anymore. When Tanner quit coaching, SC was at the top of the mountain. Today, SC baseball is the SEC cellar dweller. It might be you that needs to be convinced of today's reality. A P4 conference coach whose team currently sits at 31-6 and #2 in the nation isn't likely to be looking at South Carolina and thinking "I wish they would give me a call, that's where I want to be".

 

[Piscis]

lol...maybe more like New Coke. The brand is strong...the rebrand is not.

I don't think we're a top tier job any longer, but I do still think we're seen as a place where the right coach can win big. The big caveat is "within college baseball". Recruits don't care about our history. Of course, the further and futher we get from our previous success, the relevance diminishes (if any is left). I think of our baseball program like Alabama football in the decade prior to them hiring Saban. Still a relevant brand....just a total mess of one.

I think it is a lot like UF football. UF fans still see themselves as perennial national title contenders when, in reality, they haven't been very relevant since 2008. They backed into a couple SEC East titles, but they were never serious contenders.

Like SC baseball, I think the UF football brand is seen as very strong among UF fans. The rest of the world sees a mess.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

As stated above, what prize coach is going to come to a dumpster fire?

I think you guys have become Tannerized. Not sure yet how close Donati will be to Mike Mcgee, but I would bet he’s a lot better than Tanner.
Sounds like no one has any real speculation so I’ll just say Ramsey is my first choice. I also like Justin Parker. He’s young, proven pitching coach, and lots of sec experience. After those two, maybe Donati looks at Sarloos at TCU but I just don’t see him as being a good fit for what we need. Maybe Will Coggin at uga? He’s got a good pedigree playing at MSU and coaching un Mingione and Wes Johnson. He’s been a good hitting coach everywhere he’s been.

 

[KingWard]

lol...maybe more like New Coke. The brand is strong...the rebrand is not.

I don't think we're a top tier job any longer, but I do still think we're seen as a place where the right coach can win big. The big caveat is "within college baseball". Recruits don't care about our history. Of course, the further and futher we get from our previous success, the relevance diminishes (if any is left). I think of our baseball program like Alabama football in the decade prior to them hiring Saban. Still a relevant brand....just a total mess of one.

The brand is no longer strong. I will have to be reestablished.

 

[Anon1742573506]

I think it is a lot like UF football. UF fans still see themselves as perennial national title contenders when, in reality, they haven't been very relevant since 2008. They backed into a couple SEC East titles, but they were never serious contenders.

Like SC baseball, I think the UF football brand is seen as very strong among UF fans. The rest of the world sees a mess.

I disagree with most things you post but this is a perfect analogy

 

[Bubba Fett]

Schnall.

He wins.

 

[o_Pepsicock]

Chris Pollard

 

[muscleknight]

Create an all AI coaching staff. We could throw in all the traits from the top coaches to create the ultimate baseball head coach

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Create an all AI coaching staff. We could throw in all the traits from the top coaches to create the ultimate baseball head coach

That would be ground breaking and we could just hire a recruiter and put all the money there.

 

[atl-cock]

Ray left his alma mater after many more successful seasons at NCState. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to expect Donati to be able to entice Ramsey away from GT maybe even no more than it would be for someone to convince you to back away from the ledge.
We still get SEC money compared to ACC and we have much more of a tradition and fanbase here to support baseball. It ain’t rocket scientry

Ray left NCSU because they wouldn't invest in the baseball program. McGee assured Tanner that they would build a new stadium. It took 10 years, but hey.

 

[atl-cock]

Agreed. No way i would leave GT for USC. I think coaches are realizing that a good job and good pay with job security is often better than a good job with great pay.

Tech beat UGA tonight in a game played in the Braves' stadium. A little better than a AAA field in Charlotte.

Yes, he would be foolish to leave Atlanta for Columbia.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

Ray left NCSU because they wouldn't invest in the baseball program. McGee assured Tanner that they would build a new stadium. It took 10 years, but hey.

Don’t forget his wife being from here. I don’t believe it’s the stretch most in this thread believe. Ramsey is not a GT alum. He’s making around 500K, actually Hall was only around 600k when he left and they play in a stadium that has less than half the capacity we do. Basically, GT is going to have to make a substantial commitment to baseball in order to keep him or he is going to leave eventually if he continues to be successful.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

I do live Pollard and would be excited if he was the guy. Just not my first few choices. So no one has anymore thoughts on who they’d like to see get hired as the next baseball coach? Just why Ramsey ain’t coming Lol

 

[Piscis]

Don’t forget his wife being from here. I don’t believe it’s the stretch most in this thread believe. Ramsey is not a GT alum. He’s making around 500K, actually Hall was only around 600k when he left and they play in a stadium that has less than half the capacity we do. Basically, GT is going to have to make a substantial commitment to baseball in order to keep him or he is going to leave eventually if he continues to be successful.

I wouldn't be surprised to see tech give him a huge raise after this season. He grew up in the Atlanta area and he and both of his parents went to FSU. I could see him going to FSU at some point.

Of course, Maineiri was making $1.3million. If money is the big motivator for Ramsey, he might be willing to talk. If he inherited a load of talent and he knows that talent will be gone after this season, he may be more amenable to looking around.

 

[atl-cock]

Don’t forget his wife being from here. I don’t believe it’s the stretch most in this thread believe. Ramsey is not a GT alum. He’s making around 500K, actually Hall was only around 600k when he left and they play in a stadium that has less than half the capacity we do. Basically, GT is going to have to make a substantial commitment to baseball in order to keep him or he is going to leave eventually if he continues to be successful.

Mrs. Tanner being from SC, like Dawn Staley's mother, certainly played a role in each coach accepting an offer. But each coach was looking to move on to another school willing to invest in the sport.

Tech has made recent improvements to the "Rusty-C," i.e., they aren't sitting still.

Given that Atlanta has the Braves, and Tech baseball receives a paucity of coverage over local Atlanta TV stations compared to USC coverage on tv stations throughout SC, they are doing pretty good.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

Mrs. Tanner being from SC, like Dawn Staley's mother, certainly played a role in each coach accepting an offer. But each coach was looking to move on to another school willing to invest in the sport.

Tech has made recent improvements to the "Rusty-C," i.e., they aren't sitting still.

Given that Atlanta has the Braves, and Tech baseball receives a paucity of coverage over local Atlanta TV stations compared to USC coverage on tv stations throughout SC, they are doing pretty good.

“ Improvements” ? They’re no where near us in avg attendance or capacity or coaching salaries or cws appearances or championships or runners up. I’m sure they’ll offer to do more when they decide to get more serious about baseball, but they’re so far behind the curve I’d be surprised if they’ll be as committed as they’ll need to be. They’ve been playing in the braves’ stadium for decades. Usually one game per season. Never been that much of an advantage before so…

 

[atl-cock]

“ Improvements” ? They’re no where near us in avg attendance or capacity or coaching salaries or cws appearances or championships or runners up. I’m sure they’ll offer to do more when they decide to get more serious about baseball, but they’re so far behind the curve I’d be surprised if they’ll be as committed as they’ll need to be. They’ve been playing in the braves’ stadium for decades. Usually one game per season. Never been that much of an advantage before so…

While everything you stated is true, I believe you missed my point. The recent improvements were to the baseball stadium - Russ Chandler Stadium, the "Rusty C." That does show a commitment. Had NCSU promised to do that, Tanner may very well have remained a Wolfpack. The stadium improvements in Raleigh came wll after Tanner left.

And given that they are in a market with an MLB franchise, they are doing quite well.

The annual neutral site game with UGA has been held at either the Braves' stadium or the AAA teams field for many years. To play even one game on an MLB field annually is a selling point for a recruit.

All this to say that myself and many others are not convinced that moving from Atlanta to Columbia is a step up in a collegiate coaching career at this time.

 

[o_Bushmaster]

While everything you stated is true, I believe you missed my point. The recent improvements were to the baseball stadium - Russ Chandler Stadium, the "Rusty C." That does show a commitment. Had NCSU promised to do that, Tanner may very well have remained a Wolfpack. The stadium improvements in Raleigh came wll after Tanner left.

And given that they are in a market with an MLB franchise, they are doing quite well.

The annual neutral site game with UGA has been held at either the Braves' stadium or the AAA teams field for many years. To play even one game on an MLB field annually is a selling point for a recruit.

All this to say that myself and many others are not convinced that moving from Atlanta to Columbia is a step up in a collegiate coaching career at this time.

No I understood your point I just don’t think they’ve shown the level of commitment they will need to show if suitors come for him. I also question whether they will show that level of commitment in the end. Maybe we’ll find out. Maybe we’ll never know

 

[atl-cock]

No I understood your point I just don’t think they’ve shown the level of commitment they will need to show if suitors come for him. I also question whether they will show that level of commitment in the end. Maybe we’ll find out. Maybe we’ll never know

Thanks for the clarification. Level of commitment is definitely the operative.