NET Nonsense (Part-20)

[HenryMuto]

How many losses does it take to knock Washington out of the top 75 NET so all those PAC 12 teams stop getting those quad 1 road wins.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

How many losses does it take to knock Washington out of the top 75 NET so all those PAC 12 teams stop getting those quad 1 road wins.

I'm wondering if the NET is overly sensitive to outliers. Washington has a win over #2 Baylor. Like our Evansville loss anchoring us, that win could be boosting them.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

It's possible. Then again they are 63rd in Kenpom and average out to 77th in Massey.

It's reasonable to think they are somewhere around that 75

 

[ColonelCat_rivals376764]

Built into the algorithm... easily done and easily seen. Prime example is Duke.

Being our loss to E-ville seems to mire us lower than most feel we should be, doesn't Duke's losses to SFA and NCSt count as "Bad Losses"?
Come on, let's get real.

 

[Elliott Tim]

Sorry to start another NET bashing thread, BUT here goes:
(Wednesday games/ Thursday NET changes)

Some more crazy, unjustified, inexcusable movements within the "infallible" NET system!!!!

• Syracuse moves from #67 up to #59 after winning AT #99 Pitt who drops to #108
• Virginia moves from #52 up to #51 after winning AT #85 V.Tech who drops to #84
• SFA (24-3/ 15-1) moves from #88 up to #82 after winning AT HOME versus #314 Northwestern St. (12-13/ 9-7) who drops to #315
• Marquette moves from #26 up to #25 after winning AT HOME versus #59 Georgetown who moves up to #58
  
• Arkansas moves from #45 up to #40 after winning AT HOME versus #65 Tennessee who drops to #70
  
• Missouri moves from #89 up to #84 after winning AT #144 Vandy who drops to #153
• Florida moves from #33 up to #31 after winning AT HOME versus #29 LSU who drops to #33
  
• Notre Dame stays at #56 after winning AT #150 Boston Coll. who MOVES UP to #144

Don't be sorry, join the club.
If it weren't for Duke, NCar, L'ville, Net, Pomroy, etc. we'd have nothing to complain about.
Forgive me. I forgot to include Cal, his salary and the player's who fall short of our expectations.
Now don't get mad, just be thankful for drama and dysfunction.
We'd close down this site void of it.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Being our loss to E-ville seems to mire us lower than most feel we should be, doesn't Duke's losses to SFA and NCSt count as "Bad Losses"?
Come on, let's get real.

Well Evansville is ranked 252nd in NET. It was a Quad 4 loss

NC State is 57th
Stephen F Austin is 84th.

NC State wasn't even a Quad 2 loss. It was on the road. Their road losses to Clemson and Wake Forrest were worse.

 

[HenryMuto]

Tennessee is sitting at 69 we really need them to stay inside that top 75 that would suck to lose their quad 1 win. Problem is we play them again if we beat them that drops them. We need Tennessee to win other games.

Be also nice if Florida got into the top 30 to give us another quad 1 win. When we play at Florida if we beat them they are likely falling well below 30 and if we lose they likely will be inside the top 30 so I guess win or loss we will get a quad 1 win out of it unless they lose their other games.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

This is really the main issue with putting things into Quads

Because in reality.........is UT being ranked 74th or 76th really that much of a differenceIn reality tho, the Quads are just for grouping. You'd think when the committee sits down to seeding they are looking at things a bit more closely than that.

I mean it's one thing to be 4-0 in Quad 1 games against teams ranked 20-25 vs being 4-0 Quad 1 games vs say the top 4 teams in America.

I don't sweat the teams dipping in and out........because at the end of the day it's just going to come down to whenever the committee decides to pull the data. A team like UT could slip in and out of Quad 1 several times by March.

 

[HenryMuto]

This is really the main issue with putting things into Quads

Because in reality.........is UT being ranked 74th or 76th really that much of a differenceIn reality tho, the Quads are just for grouping. You'd think when the committee sits down to seeding they are looking at things a bit more closely than that.

I mean it's one thing to be 4-0 in Quad 1 games against teams ranked 20-25 vs being 4-0 Quad 1 games vs say the top 4 teams in America.

I don't sweat the teams dipping in and out........because at the end of the day it's just going to come down to whenever the committee decides to pull the data. A team like UT could slip in and out of Quad 1 several times by March.

I agree. It would be better not to have any kind of quad system just have the ratings and when the committee reviews every team's resume right before selection Sunday you just look at the whole body of work because it sure means a lot more to have beat an NCAA at large quality team that might be ranked lower than it would mean beating a team that has not shot to make.

Dayton is a good example will be a #2 seed despite having zero wins vs teams likely seeded in the top 8 seed lines in the dance. How many wins vs entire field will they even have ?

Their 4 quad 1 wins
Saint Mary's
At Richmond
At VCU
At Saint Louis

That might be 1 win against the field maybe 2 if Richmond gets there.

Home to Rhode Island as well

So no wins vs top 8 seeded teams yet they are a #2 seed.

Take East Tenn State they hav 4 total losses and a win at LSU but they might not even make the tournament if they lose in their conf tournament.

 

[HenryMuto]

Arizona being 11th in the NET [laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]