NET moves to 91

S_Janowski

Heisman
May 24, 2009
13,918
26,526
113
I’m assuming it’s much harder to gain ground in the NET once conference play starts for various reasons - but one being not many established teams are going up against as many Q3/Q4 teams and at risk of losing major ground?
 

RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
29,435
28,578
113
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc.

Also 4 double digit wins over projected tournament teams, really strong resume with 1 red flag and we were squarely on the bubble, this team has like 7 red flags”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.
 

bac2therac

Hall of Famer
Jul 30, 2001
247,800
177,463
113
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.

Lack of road wins huge issue that year.
 
Apr 8, 2002
15,534
26,785
113
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc.

Also 4 double digit wins over projected tournament teams, really strong resume with 1 red flag and we were squarely on the bubble, this team has like 7 red flags”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.
Always looking for rain in the cloud. 😂


 

RUKnights86

All-Conference
Apr 5, 2016
1,080
2,584
113
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc.

Also 4 double digit wins over projected tournament teams, really strong resume with 1 red flag and we were squarely on the bubble, this team has like 7 red flags”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.

On the flip side if we get to 12 BIG wins before the conference tournament that would mean we would add 3 more Q1 wins and have 7 on the year and potentially 8 if we play a team in Round 2 that falls into that category which is expanded due to it being a neutral court. It is an interesting case but if they have 7-8 Q1 wins that certainly accounts for a lot more than the 4 we had than with us being on that bubble. The resume certainly is creating a potential interesting case for the committee and lets also remember they do look at how a team finishes as well (as much as they say they dont).
 

Jtg=04131996

All-Conference
Aug 2, 2010
8,165
4,878
81
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc.

Also 4 double digit wins over projected tournament teams, really strong resume with 1 red flag and we were squarely on the bubble, this team has like 7 red flags”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.
Meh we all recognize there’s a lot of work to do. We had 4 ranked wins that year - Hall, Wisconsin, Illinois and Maryland.

We’re at 3 right now with 4 opportunities left. To even sniff the bubble we’ll need one or two of those plus a Michigan/Indiana road win.
 

RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
29,435
28,578
113
Meh we all recognize there’s a lot of work to do. We had 4 ranked wins that year - Hall, Wisconsin, Illinois and Maryland.

We’re at 3 right now with 4 opportunities left. To even sniff the bubble we’ll need one or two of those plus a Michigan/Indiana road win.
I agree but it’s clear not everyone does.
 

bac2therac

Hall of Famer
Jul 30, 2001
247,800
177,463
113
On the flip side if we get to 12 BIG wins before the conference tournament that would mean we would add 3 more Q1 wins and have 7 on the year and potentially 8 if we play a team in Round 2 that falls into that category which is expanded due to it being a neutral court. It is an interesting case but if they have 7-8 Q1 wins that certainly accounts for a lot more than the 4 we had than with us being on that bubble. The resume certainly is creating a potential interesting case for the committee and lets also remember they do look at how a team finishes as well (as much as they say they dont).

We will be the most scandalous bubble team this year
 

goru7

All-American
Dec 12, 2005
6,432
7,710
113
One game at a time
What a joke. By no other reasonable standard does a team that beats a # 13 ranked and # 16 ranked team back to back , one by 21 points , with incredible offensive efficiency (2nd highest game in the country ) only go from 111 to 91. The lack of weight to beating ranked teams , one convincingly is just pure silliness that no human should pay any attention to it, and thankfully the committee still uses the eye test . We didn’t play like a team that was a little better (111 to 91) , we played like a top 15 team offensively and defensively.
 

zebnatto

All-Conference
May 7, 2008
5,071
3,818
0
You guys know the analytics, not me. But going outside that context, there’s little argument that TODAY we’re not one of the top 66 teams in the country.
 
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RUsojo

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Dec 17, 2010
29,435
28,578
113
A concern is Michigan St moving from quad 1 to quad 2 as the season plays out...they have fallen to 27.
They have a bunch of losses on their upcoming schedule but Iowa should be safe they have a bunch of cupcakes
 

bitnez

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Jan 18, 2006
6,479
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My gut tells me we’re not getting selected absent a legendary run to end the season so I choose not to think about it. As Hawk said it will all play out over the next few weeks.
 
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bac2therac

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They have a bunch of losses on their upcoming schedule but Iowa should be safe they have a bunch of cupcakes

Its a pedestrian resume but I agree. Their efficiency must be outstanding to have them at 20
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
13,322
12,640
78
They have a bunch of losses on their upcoming schedule but Iowa should be safe they have a bunch of cupcakes
You taking it to the bank on Iowa winning today at Maryland? I’m not. They are about as good a road team as Rutgers.
 
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Rutgers25

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Jul 29, 2001
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6,173
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My gut tells me we’re not getting selected absent a legendary run to end the season so I choose not to think about it. As Hawk said it will all play out over the next few weeks.

odds are still stacked against us no doubt, but we do control our own destiny. Knock off one of wisky, IU or UM on the road and beat Illinois, wisky and penn state at home and we are a lock at 12-8 and all those quad 1 wins.
 

patk89

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Jul 25, 2001
6,322
2,449
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At home, there is maybe 30. Neutral/Away could be 90
Not sure about that given how we are playing. Just beat 2 top 25 teams at home, one convincingly. Have a home win against likely 1 seed Purdue. Agree on the neutral/away. Rutgers is playing like a team that deserves to be in and can win games in the Tourny. But that damn November.
 
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RUfanSinceAnderson

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Jan 31, 2006
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If this is how the NET is, it is broken. Crazy how a loss in November to a bad team can anchor you down a whole season.
 

RUfanSinceAnderson

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Jan 31, 2006
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People on this board insisting November shouldn't count are funny.
Did not say that; saying ONE loss shouldn't affect your net by 30 spots. If so, a win v Purdue should do the same.

Does anyone know what the NET would increase to with a close loss to Wisc?
 

fluoxetine

Heisman
Nov 11, 2012
23,529
16,898
0
“Was thinking the fans seem totally oblivious to the fact 2 years ago there was a strong chance Rutgers was out of the tournament if they didn't get that win at Purdue to end the year and that Rutgers resume was way stronger than this one, their only bad loss was a q3 neutral loss by 6 to the bonnies, their biggest loss of the year was by 12 at sparty, they had 4 q1 wins and went 5-1 vs q2, they also had q4 wins by 25 27 and 47 ooc.

Also 4 double digit wins over projected tournament teams, really strong resume with 1 red flag and we were squarely on the bubble, this team has like 7 red flags”

Interesting point and shift of board mentality.
What are the 7 red flags? The red flags are the Lafayette, Maryland, and UMass losses. The other red flags (****** road record, bad NET) will work themselves out fine if we actually get the wins we need down the stretch.
 

fluoxetine

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Nov 11, 2012
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RUfanSinceAnderson

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Jan 31, 2006
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Why?

No.

How do people (not just you) not understand that if you are trying to be one of the top ~45 teams that beating #1 at home (currently #4 actually) is less good than losing to #319 at home is bad.
Disagree. You can look at it both ways. I can argue we can beat a 1 seed on any day. You could argue we could lose to a 16. I get it. But it shouldn't be an anchor. If we beat Purdue on the ROAD should we jump 35 spots?
 

jordkap

All-Conference
Jul 11, 2016
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Not sure about that given how we are playing. Just beat 2 top 25 teams at home, one convincingly. Have a home win against likely 1 seed Purdue. Agree on the neutral/away. Rutgers is playing like a team that deserves to be in and can win games in the Tourny. But that damn November.
I say 30 teams could beat us, not that they would every time. Ohio State is plenty capable but just bungled the last 3 minutes. I’m sure there’s also some other teams that would be a nightmare matchup wise.