I already told you what I think the admin is going to do with this manufactured crisis.
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You then said going back to square 1 was a loss for Dems. I still don't get that.
So you're saying we should take them back where they came from and place them with their relatives? Should just let the parents go? Deport them all back where they came from?
You refuse to answer questions, because you know they are logical questions that you're afraid to answer. I say "afraid" because you know the answers, but the answers hurt your political stance.
Why not just go to a port of entry and come here legally? Why sneak in? I mean, if you're willing to put your children in extreme danger, trekking your way all the way to the U.S. "seeking asylum", why not make sure you do it legally? Or are they, just maybe, abusing the system?
Continue grandstanding and ignoring common sense truth....It's what you liberals do best.
Based on history you should trust dvl and ignore your own thoughts because most likely you will be wrong. At this point I hate to see you be wrong again. It's sad.
Crazy, completely speculative, off-the-cuff prediction. If a generally acceptable solution is not found quickly to this crisis, the Dems will feel pressured to capitulate to the building of the wall to protect the kids so non-citizens won’t be able to commit the crime of illegal entry and be separated from their children. Dems “protect“ the kids, Trump gets his wall.
Respectfully disagree. No go on the wall and trump continues to look evil. He has no leverage here.
You mean like President Obama ordered done to these two female detainees sleeping in a holding cell as seen in this June 18, 2014 photo? And like all the other children he ordered separated by age group and gender, at a US Customs and Border Protection center in Nogales, Arizona?
What loving Parent would send their kids unaccompanied through Mexico to the US (some of these kids arrive alone) they're "separating" their own Families are they not?
OK, let's say they make it here, (kids) then send for Mommy and Daddy back in Guatemala and they're allowed to "reunite". Then let's say we give them amnesty for coming here illegally (that's not the way to do it) but they're here so we grant it (amnesty)
But let's just say in exchange for the amnesty, we permanently revoke their rights to vote or receive Public assistance? Private Faith based help is available and fine, but no Government checks designed to place them on dependence of the aid. They can never vote, or receive public assistance ever. Not even Social Security. They broke the Law, and their reward was the amnesty. The punishment is permanent removal of their voting rights and public assistance. What is their punishment now for breaking our Law?
You folks on the Left OK with that?
Young boys sleep in a holding cell at the Nogales Placement Center on June 18, 2014.
Disgusting. Obama was evil.
He didn't enforce the Immigration Laws, AND he was separating Families!
Leftists were silent.
You mean like President Obama ordered done to these two female detainees sleeping in a holding cell as seen in this June 18, 2014 photo? And like all the other children he ordered separated by age group and gender, at a US Customs and Border Protection center in Nogales, Arizona?
First of all, Obama never "ordered" detainees to be separated. In fact, he wanted families kept together but he was ruled against and ordered to stop.
Secondly, because another person did it makes it alright? Is that your defense? Seriously?
Thirdly, this is clearly a trump policy as stated repeatedly by Sessions.
Fourth, anyone doing this ******** is wrong.
Obama wasn't "ordered"...it was the Law. He used the Law to separate the Families. The Law said kids can't be kept beyond 20 days...so Obama ordered them sent around the country. The only difference here is Trump is enforcing the Law, where Obama randomly or selectively enforced it.
And rallies planned nationwide on June 30 - Families Belong Together.
Not good for the "Orange One." He's going to take a beating on this.
Not good for the "Orange One." He's going to take a beating on this.
Think we can throw in some "anti-American" racist, anti-Christian protests too?
I mean since we're bashing Trump, why not bash the country he's leading too? Don't we want them (illegals) here because we're so horrible, just like Trump?
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“President Trump tries to make illegal children into baked potatoes to serve at school lunches”, CNN’s own, Jim Acosta, is on the scene to report on these grizzly findings.Detainees sleep and watch television in a holding cell where hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children were being processed and held at the CBP Nogales Placement Center on June 18, 2014.
WRONG....i don't believe you...and you are full of stupid **** every time you post
That’s my thought. I think I posted it in this thread already. They’re manufacturing a crisis they’re going to have to do something with. Since the GOP controls the legislation, whatever gets pushed forward will be whatever Trump wants. Dems think they’ll be able to survive politically if they don’t vote for this solution to this humanitarian crisis?
I love a good bongo rally though.
Snow Sled Baby the Law as it stands today does NOT allow us to detain children for more than 20 days. If they are caught illegally crossing the border with their Parents, the Law also says they cannot be held with their Parents. Country is wrong, but you knew that didn't you?
“Since the GOP controls the legislation”
That is one thing that confuses me. That being the case (and, i agree with your statement), it’s frustrating to hear POTUS say it’s up to the Democrats to change things on this issue.
He's saying they have to agree change the loopholes in the current Law, or vote with Republicans on something else that fixes it.
Is that what he said or does he say it’s up to the Dems to stop obstructing? It’s really the only card they have, but in this case, it can be used against them because of how dire they’re painting the situation. I think they’re overplaying their hand. They should want this discussion in Oct/Nov. as it stands, this can be solved before midterms and they’ll have to give in. They can’t not solve the problem the problem and if legislation is pushed, they’ll be in a tight box.
They don't really want the problem solved, they want the issue. They think they're gaining points right now painting Trump as a racist who hates Hispanic families and just wants to break them up.
No one is talking about the fact these people are breaking the Law. It's all about smearing Trump as a hate filled racist. Won't work, no one's listening to the Left whine about Lawbreakers...in the Federal Government or as illegals crossing the border.
Crossing the border illegally for the first time is a misdemeanor. OP, and many others in this thread, are just a bit off on the magnitude of the “crime” that has been committed. And let me again remind everyone that it is not illegal to seek asylum.
Not surprising that one group in particular continues to be misinformed about this issue. This administration is simultaneously arguing that this is the fault of the Democrats, that they hate it and want it changed, that they are enforcing the policy as a deterrent to immigration, and that the policy does not even exist.
I mean...good luck with all that.
Not surprising that one group in particular continues to be misinformed about this issue. This administration is simultaneously arguing that this is the fault of the Democrats, that they hate it and want it changed, that they are enforcing the policy as a deterrent to immigration, and that the policy does not even exist.
I mean...good luck with all that.
Asylum from what?
There are absolutely advocacy groups working to swamp the court systems with asylum seekers to ensure the individuals are able to be released. They’re working the loopholes. Trumps enforcement of this as a crime (misdemeanor notwithstanding) which it absolutely is, is the counter to this action.
Definitely legal to seek asylum. Definitely illegal to sneak across the border.
As stated....If you're truly seeking asylum there is nothing to hide from. Just go to an entry port and claim asylum.
If you're sneaking, you're sneaking for a reason. If you've got nothing to hide, you don't need to break the law.
Isn't interesting how no one will touch the question of blanket amnesty in exchange for permanent suspension of all voting and social services privileges?
Doesn't their refusal to take that deal or honestly answer that question prove what the real intent is behind Leftists pushing them here illegally to ask for asylum?
Google and find out? This isn’t hard. You’d have to actively be ignoring the news to not know at this point.
They are. And they are being turned away because these ports are purposely being understaffed to handle the crisis. Leaving them no other options. Again, this is info that most people following legitimate media know. There is only one group that continues to consistently be misinformed about the subject.
Some of them are legitimately fleeing oppressive Government. They're Socialist! You don't want them staying there, and you claim this country is racist, sexist, homophobic and horribly infested with greedy Capitalists who exploit the poor and minorities. So why encourage them to come here? Why not encourage them to stay and thrive in those Socialist utopias you all desire promulgate the Earth one day?
I'm confused
Isn’t it interesting that nobody cares to engage you with your ridiculous hypotheticals?
Some of them are legitimately fleeing oppressive Government. They're Socialist! You don't want them staying there, and you claim this country is racist, sexist, homophobic and horribly infested with greedy Capitalists who exploit the poor and minorities. So why encourage them to come here? Why not encourage them to stay and thrive in those Socialist utopias you all desire promulgate the Earth one day?
I'm confused
Agreed.
I know you can't answer. Truth to you folks is like pesticide to a roach infestation.
No actually it's quite revealing. My questions are easy to dismiss, much harder for you Socialists to defend what you actually believe or support.
Like this...should all illegals who break our Laws and are given amnesty for doing so receive permanent suspension of their right to vote here? If not, what is their penalty for breaking our Immigration Laws?
That's not a hypothetical actually, that's what the Left is calling for. BOTH amnesty, AND their right to vote. But you won't honestly admit to that will you?
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Only card?
You should read the link I provided in post 47.
Overplaying?
LOL!
Even Republicans are now condemning this nonsense after going along with so much other nonsense.
Trump is getting ***** slapped.
Just remember that there are no borders in heaven and that the Lord grants no privileges based on your nationality. Watching so-called “Christians” defend this policy has been more enlightening than watching them defend a guy for raw dogging a pornstar while his 3rd wife is home with his newborn.