Nebraska can turn heads...

[John_J_Rambo]

by introducing a similar bill allowing collegiate athletes to earn money through ad deals like this one in California.

Paying players is coming faster than even I thought, and why not be out front to attract some national recruits who may not have had Nebraska in mind?

Link: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ncaa-college-sports-paying-athletes-20190522-story.html

Really interesting, I think.

 

[Arbitr8]

by introducing a similar bill allowing collegiate athletes to earn money through ad deals like this one in California.

Paying players is coming faster than even I thought, and why not be out front to attract some national recruits who may not have had Nebraska in mind?

Link: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ncaa-college-sports-paying-athletes-20190522-story.html

Really interesting, I think.

National recruits can go to play for the big boys of college football now and get paid.

 

[Ewooc]

by introducing a similar bill allowing collegiate athletes to earn money through ad deals like this one in California.

Paying players is coming faster than even I thought, and why not be out front to attract some national recruits who may not have had Nebraska in mind?

Link: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ncaa-college-sports-paying-athletes-20190522-story.html

Really interesting, I think.

I think we will see players get paid as far as selling autographs, signed apparel, doing tv ads, and other way they choose to profit from their name. I don't think we will ever seen the ncaa or schools paying kids. The logistics would be a nightmare, who gets paid what? Do you pay starters more? Do a flat rate for all? What if they get injured? Want to transfer? Can't make grades? Stop going to class. Do you continue to pay them? Do you put is salary caps for teams or can teams with the most money just go wild? Would kids no longer get free ride scholarships and have to pay for their own education, food, tutors, room and board ect?
Why stop at college? Should that open a discussion for high school kids to get paid?

 

[Antwill]

I don't think it's ever a good idea to follow the example of California on anything.

 

[Huzkers25]

I don't think it's ever a good idea to follow the example of California on anything.

Spot on.

 

[ohio_husker]

How much does the state allow them to be paid after the NCAA rules them ineligible? Until those 'laws' change, it doesn't really matter what a state has on the books.

 

[Kato]

When is a free college degree not getting paid? Enjoy your free ride, study and you'll get paid when it's said and done!

 

[Huskers_Rule]

by introducing a similar bill allowing collegiate athletes to earn money through ad deals like this one in California.

Paying players is coming faster than even I thought, and why not be out front to attract some national recruits who may not have had Nebraska in mind?

Link: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ncaa-college-sports-paying-athletes-20190522-story.html

Really interesting, I think.

Title IX will stop this. The women's bowling team is on equal footing with the football team as far as they are concerned.

 

[redfanusa]

Allowing athletes to be paid for signing autographs is a huge mistake.

Let's say I'm a top recruit, and Bob the Booster wants to give me $200,000 to sign at his alma mater. He can guarantee a bunch of "fans" will show up with $100 bills in hand at all of his autograph sessions. Boom, all legal.

If the NCAA is going to allow this, then why not rip up all the rules and just let schools go at it? No scholarship limits, no letters of intent, no limitations on transfers, no drug testing...nothing. Let the best team win no matter how they do it.

 

[Harry Caray]

Allowing athletes to be paid for signing autographs is a huge mistake.

Let's say I'm a top recruit, and Bob the Booster wants to give me $200,000 to sign at his alma mater. He can guarantee a bunch of "fans" will show up with $100 bills in hand at all of his autograph sessions. Boom, all legal.

If the NCAA is going to allow this, then why not rip up all the rules and just let schools go at it? No scholarship limits, no letters of intent, no limitations on transfers, no drug testing...nothing. Let the best team win no matter how they do it.

College athletes should be allowed to profit off of their own likeness. Just do it similar to the olympic model - in other words, the athletes can profit off of their own likeness but not their school's name. So any endorsements, autographs, etc. cannot mention the school they play for in any way. This seems fair to me.

 

[Buicklife]

Allowing athletes to be paid for signing autographs is a huge mistake.

Let's say I'm a top recruit, and Bob the Booster wants to give me $200,000 to sign at his alma mater. He can guarantee a bunch of "fans" will show up with $100 bills in hand at all of his autograph sessions. Boom, all legal.

If the NCAA is going to allow this, then why not rip up all the rules and just let schools go at it? No scholarship limits, no letters of intent, no limitations on transfers, no drug testing...nothing. Let the best team win no matter how they do it.

It’s pretty much already like that.

 

[Ewooc]

Allowing athletes to be paid for signing autographs is a huge mistake.

Let's say I'm a top recruit, and Bob the Booster wants to give me $200,000 to sign at his alma mater. He can guarantee a bunch of "fans" will show up with $100 bills in hand at all of his autograph sessions. Boom, all legal.

If the NCAA is going to allow this, then why not rip up all the rules and just let schools go at it? No scholarship limits, no letters of intent, no limitations on transfers, no drug testing...nothing. Let the best team win no matter how they do it.

Very good point. It will open up a whole new can of worms to deal with.

 

[Redscarlet]

It’s pretty much already like that.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

College athletes should be allowed to profit off of their own likeness. Just do it similar to the olympic model - in other words, the athletes can profit off of their own likeness but not their school's name. So any endorsements, autographs, etc. cannot mention the school they play for in any way. This seems fair to me.

This is exactly what the bill is trying to institute, and seems more than fair to me, as well.

 

[Maui2022]

I don't think it's ever a good idea to follow the example of California on anything.

I live in California and would encourage everyone to take it one step further ... do the exact opposite of every decision and policy California makes

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

When is a free college degree not getting paid? Enjoy your free ride, study and you'll get paid when it's said and done!

You donut get it. Modern sports is so specialized that a kid cannot get an engineering degree and prepare for a college football season. The demands on their time are 18 hours a day, with 6-8 hours spent on football and nutrition/recovery. That 6-8 hours is what a pre-med student or engineer spends on studying or some work study, or drinking in reality. There are specialized football degrees...communications, business, psychology, sociology...almost none of these provide direct job opportunities w/o a masters degree or higher. And the reality is the kids receive tutoring, but only for basic level classes..maybe a tier 1 chemistry or dietetics, not differential equations. So no, they do not get FREE school...they are paid by the university to play football and succeed in a select grouping of classes that offer little opportunity. Is it better than what a normal schlub gets? Yes...most normal people are laden with student debt with no prospect of lucrative job....

 

[Shimmer003]

You donut get it. Modern sports is so specialized that a kid cannot get an engineering degree and prepare for a college football season. The demands on their time are 18 hours a day, with 6-8 hours spent on football and nutrition/recovery. That 6-8 hours is what a pre-med student or engineer spends on studying or some work study, or drinking in reality. There are specialized football degrees...communications, business, psychology, sociology...almost none of these provide direct job opportunities w/o a masters degree or higher. And the reality is the kids receive tutoring, but only for basic level classes..maybe a tier 1 chemistry or dietetics, not differential equations. So no, they do not get FREE school...they are paid by the university to play football and succeed in a select grouping of classes that offer little opportunity. Is it better than what a normal schlub gets? Yes...most normal people are laden with student debt with no prospect of lucrative job....

Yeah...this is simply garbage. There are plenty of real athletes getting real degrees. It's entirely possible. There are a lot of real degrees other than biology, chemistry and engineering (which yes, typically require more time). And I've known several guys that have received difficult degrees and got into graduate school while being on a Div I team. Is it more difficult? Of course. But teams also have mandatory study hours for athletes, while the rest of the general student body is giving their livers more of a workout than their brains.

Fact of the matter...most big time athletes probably wouldn't end up with an engineering/math/science/professional school degree no matter what. Whether that be talent or devotion or both is of little consequence. The kids that really want those degrees (and have the drive to succeed at them) typically don't allow for sports to be an excuse in order to not achieve that. On top of that, listing "division 1 athlete" on a CV when applying for grad school opens doors that that aren't available to anyone other than truly elite "pure" students.

 

[elmonster]

Does that even mean anything? It's not illegal anywhere in the US for athletes to earn money on their likeness. It's just against NCAA rules. Nebraska players can go sell shirts right now if they wanted- they would just be ruled ineligible

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Yeah...this is simply garbage. There are plenty of real athletes getting real degrees. It's entirely possible. There are a lot of real degrees other than biology, chemistry and engineering (which yes, typically require more time). And I've known several guys that have received difficult degrees and got into graduate school while being on a Div I team. Is it more difficult? Of course. But teams also have mandatory study hours for athletes, while the rest of the general student body is giving their livers more of a workout than their brains.

Fact of the matter...most big time athletes probably wouldn't end up with an engineering/math/science/professional school degree no matter what. Whether that be talent or devotion or both is of little consequence. The kids that really want those degrees (and have the drive to succeed at them) typically don't allow for sports to be an excuse in order to not achieve that. On top of that, listing "division 1 athlete" on a CV when applying for grad school opens doors that that aren't available to anyone other than truly elite "pure" students.

'simply garbage'. ha, wow.

perhaps this will enlighten you:

http://dailyorange.com/2018/02/su-athletes-said-forced-majors-not-want-following-national-trend/

if it's happening at Syracuse, it's happening everywhere. there are articles over the last 10 years quoting similar claims. Josh Rosen was skewered just a few years ago for saying the same thing on national TV.

please remove your head from where the sun don't shine. thanks.

also, for what it's worth, business insider ran a report saying the average FBS player is worth $168k/year (in 2017) to their school, which do not pay taxes on their profits. how much is tuition/room/board, again?

https://www.businessinsider.com/college-football-player-value-2017-11

 

[John_J_Rambo]

one week after a top baseball prospect forgoes D1 college for a multi-million dollar deal in Japan, top high school basketball prospect signs with Aussie league for $800k

it's only a matter of time...........................................

 

[Shimmer003]

'simply garbage'. ha, wow.

perhaps this will enlighten you:

http://dailyorange.com/2018/02/su-athletes-said-forced-majors-not-want-following-national-trend/

if it's happening at Syracuse, it's happening everywhere. there are articles over the last 10 years quoting similar claims. Josh Rosen was skewered just a few years ago for saying the same thing on national TV.

please remove your head from where the sun don't shine. thanks.

also, for what it's worth, business insider ran a report saying the average FBS player is worth $168k/year (in 2017) to their school, which do not pay taxes on their profits. how much is tuition/room/board, again?

https://www.businessinsider.com/college-football-player-value-2017-11

There’s a very large difference between an athletic department making sure borderline academic kids are taking classes they can pass so they are eligible and sports preventing them from getting a degree they want. Let’s be honest...there are a lot of kids that the athletic department relies on that would never go to college if it was not for athletics....either by choice or ability doesn’t matter. Don’t pretend that all these kids would be engineers, lawyers or physicians if they just had the time to study. I attended a division 1 university and knew guys playing big time sports. Most of them didn’t belong in the same class room as everyone else. The ones that were on par? Well they received great degrees at the end of their 4 years.

Bottom line...most of the kids getting **** degrees are still getting a degree better than they otherwise would have earned without sports. Sports is the only reason they go to class and study. A degree in communications from a big school still opens a lot of doors for them in the job market that just want you to have a degree. And the athletic department isn’t going to prevent qualified students from getting a degree they want.

 

[oldjar07]

'simply garbage'. ha, wow.

perhaps this will enlighten you:

http://dailyorange.com/2018/02/su-athletes-said-forced-majors-not-want-following-national-trend/

if it's happening at Syracuse, it's happening everywhere. there are articles over the last 10 years quoting similar claims. Josh Rosen was skewered just a few years ago for saying the same thing on national TV.

please remove your head from where the sun don't shine. thanks.

also, for what it's worth, business insider ran a report saying the average FBS player is worth $168k/year (in 2017) to their school, which do not pay taxes on their profits. how much is tuition/room/board, again?

https://www.businessinsider.com/college-football-player-value-2017-11

How much is the average female softball or tennis player worth? You don't think there's going to be hell raised when MALE football players are the only athletes getting paid? College athletes aren't getting paid anytime soon and probably never will so I don't know why you keep trying to bring it up.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

How much is the average female softball or tennis player worth? You don't think there's going to be hell raised when MALE football players are the only athletes getting paid? College athletes aren't getting paid anytime soon and probably never will so I don't know why you keep trying to bring it up.

Until I hear from a female athlete who's against football players being paid, I'll continue assume they're A.) obviously fine with it because they know football revenue makes it possible for them to play their sport and only morons bite the hand that feeds them, and B.) pretty open to it since it'll tip the scales toward them getting what they're worth, as well, whether it's a stipend or being allowed to profit from their likeness.

I keep bringing it up because:
1.) It's the biggest story in college football, as it should be
2.) A recent top-3 pick has come out publicly against the current model, which the NCAA has zero defense against
3.) College football is a billion dollar industry profiting tax-free from indentured servitude
4.) 2 elite-level recruits in other sports have chosen to forego D1 sports to be paid elsewhere for the first time within the last week
5.) I'm not a caveman and can read the writing on the wall. It's a matter of when, not if

 

[Harry Caray]

How much is the average female softball or tennis player worth? You don't think there's going to be hell raised when MALE football players are the only athletes getting paid? College athletes aren't getting paid anytime soon and probably never will so I don't know why you keep trying to bring it up.

I agree that student-athletes will not be paid directly by the universities (beyond a modest stipend). Remember when Northwestern football players tried to unionize, then realized they would have to pay thousands of dollars taxes on their scholarship/benefits? That shut them up pretty quickly.

But I think they absolutely will be given the opportunity to profit off of their own likeness in the near future. It will be like the Olympic model. Yes, you will have boosters paying the top players, but that happens already anyway. And if they're good enough to have people pay them for their autograph, why shouldn't they be able to profit off of that?

 

[John_J_Rambo]

I agree that student-athletes will not be paid directly by the universities (beyond a modest stipend). Remember when Northwestern football players tried to unionize, then realized they would have to pay thousands of dollars taxes on their scholarship/benefits? That shut them up pretty quickly.

But I think they absolutely will be given the opportunity to profit off of their own likeness in the near future. It will be like the Olympic model. Yes, you will have boosters paying the top players, but that happens already anyway. And if they're good enough to have people pay them for their autograph, why shouldn't they be able to profit off of that?

YES! Except the players were well aware of the taxes and moved forward anyway, only to be rejected by the National Labor Relations Board.

Ohio and Michigan then rushed laws through state legislature to make collegiate athletes attempting to unionize illegal. Curious, to say the least.

As usual, what's bad for the powers that be is typically good for everyone else.

 

[red scowl]

by introducing a similar bill allowing collegiate athletes to earn money through ad deals like this one in California.

Paying players is coming faster than even I thought, and why not be out front to attract some national recruits who may not have had Nebraska in mind?

Link: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ncaa-college-sports-paying-athletes-20190522-story.html

Really interesting, I think.

That may not even be playing football collegiately in 20 years in California.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

I agree that student-athletes will not be paid directly by the universities (beyond a modest stipend). Remember when Northwestern football players tried to unionize, then realized they would have to pay thousands of dollars taxes on their scholarship/benefits? That shut them up pretty quickly.

But I think they absolutely will be given the opportunity to profit off of their own likeness in the near future. It will be like the Olympic model. Yes, you will have boosters paying the top players, but that happens already anyway. And if they're good enough to have people pay them for their autograph, why shouldn't they be able to profit off of that?

Another day, another news story about the NCAA driving its best players away with archaically rigid 'student-athlete' rules..

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...nba-draft-but-can-the-ncaa-reverse-the-trend/

 

[oldjar07]

Another day, another news story about the NCAA driving its best players away with archaically rigid 'student-athlete' rules..

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...nba-draft-but-can-the-ncaa-reverse-the-trend/

Good for them. No one cares.

 

[Black5hirt]

I don't think it's ever a good idea to follow the example of California on anything.

Correct, all the marbles roll to the left coast.