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The thing Iowa has, and TO had, and really any program that can achieve longevity in a HC. The program as a whole becomes very good and being consistent. A system gets put into place and it becomes an automatic machine. From how they recruit, to who they recruit, to schemes, to weight room, to player development. This all starts from the moment a player steps on campus freshman year. Everyone is on the same page. This automatic system is what Frost wants to accomplish as well.
In Iowas case, they have become very very good at Ferenz system. Usually that means they are able to fill spots pretty easily without falling off too much. Unfortunately for Iowa, Ferenz system is also very good at only being able to get 7,8, and 9 wins. Not a knock just reality of the situation. Having a system in place is great in some way, but bad if that system can't get over the hump of mediocrity.
So long story short, Iowa may take a slight step back this year. Probably nothing too drastic. Either way Im guessing the results will end up very similar as the last 20 years.
Couldn’t agree more. Which is why I’ve been wanting a change at the head coaching position since 2014. I’d give up the 2015 season to see where Iowa could be at with a different coach.
 
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One things for sure, I won’t be able to influence you and you won’t be able to influence me. You won’t bend on Huskers gaining traction and I won’t bend on ever player Iowa has coming up being an instant success. But I bet we can both agree, Iowa and Huskers will both have great battles coming up. ;) Ferentz will keep Iowa competitive and Frost will keep blowing these Huskers up.
I hope so man. I don’t like the last game of the year to not mean anything. The entire division is blowing up.
 

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I hope so man. I don’t like the last game of the year to not mean anything. The entire division is blowing up.

Sounds like it's getting brought back and I sure hope so. If we (Huskers) can’t play Iowa...at least give us Wisconsin. But like you, I want to remain the same. Both teams should be at their best when the last game comes around.
 

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I hope so man. I don’t like the last game of the year to not mean anything. The entire division is blowing up.

I have to ask this, sorry but from my point of view it’s hard to find an Iowa fan that will be flat honest without bias ness...or will at least try and look at it from the other view. From an Iowa stand point, truthfully, was it hard to see then huskers get so bad while Mike Riley was coaching??? I know you had to see this too. Riley got his butt handed to him by Ferentz and it wasn’t even a contest for the most part. As an Iowa fan, did you actually enjoy seeing that and kicking our butts so easily or was it sickening for an iowa fan like it was for a Husker fan?? Hopefully I got that out right and if not, hopefully you get my question.
 

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I have to ask this, sorry but from my point of view it’s hard to find an Iowa fan that will be flat honest without bias ness...or will at least try and look at it from the other view. From an Iowa stand point, truthfully, was it hard to see then huskers get so bad while Mike Riley was coaching??? I know you had to see this too. Riley got his butt handed to him by Ferentz and it wasn’t even a contest for the most part. As an Iowa fan, did you actually enjoy seeing that and kicking our butts so easily or was it sickening for an iowa fan like it was for a Husker fan?? Hopefully I got that out right and if not, hopefully you get my question.
You won’t like my answer to be honest. I’m 33 so I was just a kid in the 90’s. My father hated everything Nebraska and passed that down to me. Social media grows that hatred. I do hate how badly we treat each other as humans based on who we root for or our political beliefs. I’ve seen plenty of idiot Iowa fans giving us a bad name so I feel like it’s my personality to be modest and not be an a-hole. Plus, I know that sports are ciclical and Iowa isn’t going to beat Nebraska every year. My dad also instilled the golden rule in me.

I wouldn’t have a problem if Nebraska got better. That way we could stop hearing about how bad Riley was and that’s the only time Iowa could ever compete with Nebraska. If that makes sense.
 

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Could you imagine the tension? It seems everyone is already wound up when nothing is on the line more than bragging rights. It would set off a huge gas explosion in the rivalry.
No. Until you actually win something, you're a nobody.

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You won’t like my answer to be honest. I’m 33 so I was just a kid in the 90’s. My father hated everything Nebraska and passed that down to me. Social media grows that hatred. I do hate how badly we treat each other as humans based on who we root for or our political beliefs. I’ve seen plenty of idiot Iowa fans giving us a bad name so I feel like it’s my personality to be modest and not be an a-hole. Plus, I know that sports are ciclical and Iowa isn’t going to beat Nebraska every year. My dad also instilled the golden rule in me.

I wouldn’t have a problem if Nebraska got better. That way we could stop hearing about how bad Riley was and that’s the only time Iowa could ever compete with Nebraska. If that makes sense.

If you hate NU so much, why do you hang out here all the time?
 

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SWiowahawk, At the age of 33,You never seen some of the better Iowa teams like the 1985 team...

And some of Iowa ‘s best all time wins, one was the 1981 Nebraska game which I attended...

That day was one of a handful of times I seen opposing fans tear down their goal posts after upsetting a ranked Nebraska team...

I don’t know what Ferentz team you consider the best but I have in my life time seen all the great Nebraska teams in my life time since the early 1960’s..
 

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SWiowahawk, At the age of 33,You never seen some of the better Iowa teams like the 1985 team...

And some of Iowa ‘s best all time wins, one was the 1981 Nebraska game which I attended...

That day was one of a handful of times I seen opposing fans tear down their goal posts after upsetting a ranked Nebraska team...

I don’t know what Ferentz team you consider the best but I have in my life time seen all the great Nebraska teams in my life time since the early 1960’s..
Member those OU games under Switzer.
 
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You won’t like my answer to be honest. I’m 33 so I was just a kid in the 90’s. My father hated everything Nebraska and passed that down to me. Social media grows that hatred. I do hate how badly we treat each other as humans based on who we root for or our political beliefs. I’ve seen plenty of idiot Iowa fans giving us a bad name so I feel like it’s my personality to be modest and not be an a-hole. Plus, I know that sports are ciclical and Iowa isn’t going to beat Nebraska every year. My dad also instilled the golden rule in me.

I wouldn’t have a problem if Nebraska got better. That way we could stop hearing about how bad Riley was and that’s the only time Iowa could ever compete with Nebraska. If that makes sense.

Hey i can’t respect most all of that. But the only one that got to me at all was the part “Being fine with Nebraska getting better so you could stop hearing about Mike Riley”. Bro, that’s the only reason Huskers got as bad as they did. Any of the Husker fans you talk to and respect on here would more then tell you the same. He is and was the biggest reason Iowa went on this 4-0 run against Nebraska because he let the Huskers get so bad, didn’t make them lift and let them become big whimps (I wanted to use another word lol)

Maybe Iowa fans feel like your not getting the respect due??? In no way shape or form do any Huskers mean it just like that. Iowa definitely did it’s part, they fielded solid teams and Ferentz kept them going. But man, you almost have to be blind to see how the Bo Pelini teams (which went 3-1 against Iowa...one lose came when Armstrong was hurt and Huskers had to play a walk on QB) compared to Mike Riley teams (0-4 against Iowa) The S&C part went right out of the window for one, two: Riley was just a horrible Head Coach (barely .500 coach at the Beavers)...anyone can and could see that. I’m trying hard not be bias here...but it is what it is...Mike Riley was the Huskers fall (and I mean worse then what the Huskers were on with Bo Pelini averaging 9-10 wins a year)....there’s just no other way to put it. Recruited top 18-25 classes under Riley....but he couldn’t develop them.
 
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SWiowahawk, At the age of 33,You never seen some of the better Iowa teams like the 1985 team...

And some of Iowa ‘s best all time wins, one was the 1981 Nebraska game which I attended...

That day was one of a handful of times I seen opposing fans tear down their goal posts after upsetting a ranked Nebraska team...

I don’t know what Ferentz team you consider the best but I have in my life time seen all the great Nebraska teams in my life time since the early 1960’s..
I thought at one point the entire 1981 game was posted, but all I could find tonight was a 22-minute version.

Anyway, enjoy this, @SWIowahawks (just don't watch the 1982 game)...
 

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Hey i can’t respect most all of that. But the only one that got to me at all was the part “Being fine with Nebraska getting better so you could stop hearing about Mike Riley”. Bro, that’s the only reason Huskers got as bad as they did. Any of the Husker fans you talk to and respect on here would more then tell you the same. He is and was the biggest reason Iowa went on this 4-0 run against Nebraska because he let the Huskers get so bad, didn’t make them lift and let them become big whimps (I wanted to use another word lol)

Maybe Iowa fans feel like your not getting the respect due??? In no way shape or form do any Huskers mean it just like that. Iowa definitely did it’s part, they fielded solid teams and Ferentz kept them going. But man, you almost have to be blind to see how the Bo Pelini teams (which went 3-1 against Iowa...one lose came when Armstrong was hurt and Huskers had to play a walk on QB) compared to Mike Riley teams (0-4 against Iowa) The S&C part went right out of the window for one, two: Riley was just a horrible Head Coach (barely .500 coach at the Beavers)...anyone can and could see that. I’m trying hard not be bias here...but it is what it is...Mike Riley was the Huskers fall (and I mean worse then what the Huskers were on with Bo Pelini averaging 9-10 wins a year)....there’s just no other way to put it. Recruited top 18-25 classes under Riley....but he couldn’t develop them.
I never disputed that Riley was an absolute train wreck. I do think that Eichorst’s comments about evaluating where Iowa was as a program really made Kirk put more emphasis on those games. Iowa handed Nebraska its 2nd worst loss of the season in 2016. They were 9-2 coming into that game so it wasn’t as bad of a team as 2017. 2017 Iowa handed them tied for their worst defeat of the season. 2015 is tricky. I don’t know that you can 100% blame Riley but again, it was the second worst defeat of the season in a year that Nebraska lost a ton of close games.

So to me, 2017 is the one year that you can totally say Iowa won because Riley sucked. You could also make a case for Frost not having good players last year and blame it on Riley.
 

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Yes that would be a good season. Just like 2009 and 2010 were good seasons. I didn't get all bent out of shape just because we didn't win a conference title.

Let's say we do win a conference title but get our butts handed to us in a NY6 bowl. For me, I'd rather we win a NY6 bowl than the conference title game.
Why? Bowl games are not like they use to be. Unless it is the playoff games. Bowls in general aren't taken as serious. Hence why we see players sitting out all the time. Bowl games are consultation prizes. Give me the game that means something. Plus if we win a conf title, odds are at least better to get to the playoffs. If we don't make the conf title game or lose it, we have no shot at the playoffs.
 

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SWiowahawk, At the age of 33,You never seen some of the better Iowa teams like the 1985 team...

And some of Iowa ‘s best all time wins, one was the 1981 Nebraska game which I attended...

That day was one of a handful of times I seen opposing fans tear down their goal posts after upsetting a ranked Nebraska team...

I don’t know what Ferentz team you consider the best but I have in my life time seen all the great Nebraska teams in my life time since the early 1960’s..
On our boards I’m known as a Kirk hater. I’d probably classify myself as a Kirk doubter. You really can’t hate the guy. The posters that think Kirk can do no wrong think Iowa City is such a tough place to coach and recruit that this is the best we can do. So I started looking into Fry. Fry definitely had Iowa in a better position consistently, especially after the 70’s dark era of Iowa football.
 
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I never disputed that Riley was an absolute train wreck. I do think that Eichorst’s comments about evaluating where Iowa was as a program really made Kirk put more emphasis on those games. Iowa handed Nebraska its 2nd worst loss of the season in 2016. They were 9-2 coming into that game so it wasn’t as bad of a team as 2017. 2017 Iowa handed them tied for their worst defeat of the season. 2015 is tricky. I don’t know that you can 100% blame Riley but again, it was the second worst defeat of the season in a year that Nebraska lost a ton of close games.

So to me, 2017 is the one year that you can totally say Iowa won because Riley sucked. You could also make a case for Frost not having good players last year and blame it on Riley.

Well either way its looked at or it’s played out...I’d have to say we got some good games to come from now on. Kirk is going to keep Iowa going solid and Frost has his ship righted and people could tell the final 6 games going 4-2 with a 5 point lose to OSU at the Shoe and Iowa winning via last second FG at Iowa (I think we could see plenty more games like that...at least till Frost brings in more top 15 classes or better);)
 

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And I been looking all over for this...when are the freshman players from high school supposed to report to NU??
 

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You’d think iowa fan would understand where we are coming from in terms of how we treat them and how we think of Iowa football, after all they treat ISU fans and ISU football the same as we treat them. The comparison is apples to apples, about the same winning percentage for Nebraska over Iowa as Iowa over ISU and like ISU, Iowa does not have a storied history of conference titles and NCs. I know these facts really anger Iowa fan, but it is what it is. Iowa fan thinks Iowa should beat ISU at least 6-7 times out of ten and most huskers fans think Nebraska should beat Iowa 6-7 times out of ten and until nice guy mike arrived every Nebraska coach from the 70s until 2014 had at least a .750 win over Iowa. My man Frank Solich is undefeated against Iowa. RollingLaugh
 
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I wouldn’t have a problem if Nebraska got better. That way we could stop hearing about how bad Riley was and that’s the only time Iowa could ever compete with Nebraska. If that makes sense.
Honestly I think many Nebraska fans are at this point too. Time to put up or shut up. We want to know one way or another. Can we get back to dominating football? was the failure 100% on Riley? ( I believe it was) or was it just the culmination of the last 15-20 years. Maybe just the new normal.
If it was 100% on Riley Frost should be able to bring Neb out of it fairly quickly. If it goes like many of us hope and think, we should get to a point of dominance that teams like Iowa, MN, Purdue, NW just can't compete consistently against us. Similar to how Ohio St dominates most BIG10 teams
Now if this was all just a culmination/ new norm. It might take much longer to come out of, if we get out of it at all. If that is the case I think our new normal will be very similar to what Iowa has accomplished the last 20 years. No matter the situation, make no mistake Iowa will never see Nebraska teams like they have seen the last 2-4 years. That took some once in a lifetime type of sucky coaching, recruiting, lack of player development to achieve that kind of ****. I think the best Iowa will get from here on out is a 50/50 type split with Nebraska.
 
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That 2015 loss to Illinois is probably the worst loss I've seen since I've been watching the huskers in 1992.

Our games against NW have been barn burners... the only one that didn't come right down to the end was Bo's final year when Ameer had 3 TDs in the second half. We were actually losing at halftime so it was still pretty dicey for much of the game.
 

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That 2015 loss to Illinois is probably the worst loss I've seen since I've been watching the huskers in 1992.

Our games against NW have been barn burners... the only one that didn't come right down to the end was Bo's final year when Ameer had 3 TDs in the second half. We were actually losing at halftime so it was still pretty dicey for much of the game.
It is crazy how certain teams always play each other tight. NW and Nebraska so far seems to be that game that is just always going to be close
 

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That 2015 loss to Illinois is probably the worst loss I've seen since I've been watching the huskers in 1992.

Our games against NW have been barn burners... the only one that didn't come right down to the end was Bo's final year when Ameer had 3 TDs in the second half. We were actually losing at halftime so it was still pretty dicey for much of the game.

Callahan’s loss to T-Tech and Pelini’s loss in the 2012 B1G Championship Game in my opinion were the worst unwatchable losses that I hope I never ever have to witness again.
 
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Callahan’s loss to T-Tech and Pelini’s loss in the 2012 B1G Championship Game in my opinion were the worst unwatchable losses that I hope I never ever have to witness again.
Yeah... can't argue with that. Maybe my comment should have been that the 2015 Illinois team was the worst team I've seen us lose to. They had a interim coach that literally didn't know what down it was.

Minnesota 2017 is probably the worst blowout loss against a terrible team. I was there in person... sigh
 

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Callahan’s loss to T-Tech and Pelini’s loss in the 2012 B1G Championship Game in my opinion were the worst unwatchable losses that I hope I never ever have to witness again.

Don't forget Callahan's loss to Okla St in Memorial Stadium. 38-0 at halftime, 45-0 at one point.

I was screaming for his loser *** to be canned and shipped back where he came from at halftime, and our fans were not happy. They were also the ones who didn't come back after halftime.
 

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Yeah... can't argue with that. Maybe my comment should have been that the 2015 Illinois team was the worst team I've seen us lose to. They had a interim coach that literally didn't know what down it was.

Minnesota 2017 is probably the worst blowout loss against a terrible team. I was there in person... sigh
I would agree with the MN. I never thought I would live to see us lose that bad to MN.
 

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That’s been one of my biggest complaints, how one team gets the shaft schedule wise and the other always seems to get these weak cream puff type schedules. Like most will agree, I’d rather play some tougher teams but it would be nice to even these schedules out a.m little more.

And you know I agree on the Iowa view ...Iowa went on their run once Mike Riley stepped on campus. Bo Pelini had Iowa and Ferentz number...the one win they had on Bo came when Tommy Armstrong was hurt and didn’t play in the game and we had a walk on playing....had Tommy played...Bo would have been 4-0 against Iowa. They don’t like to admit and WONT but Mike Riley was Iowa’s best player against our Huskers, period.

It took a 20 some point comeback and a win in overtime for Bo to get one of those wins. That series was much closer to being 2-2 than 4-0 Nebraska but carry on.
 

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It took a 20 some point comeback and a win in overtime for Bo to get one of those wins. That series was much closer to being 2-2 than 4-0 Nebraska but carry on.
That makes no sense. So not sure the point you are trying to make? You are suggesting Iowa is somehow better because they let a team score 20 unanswered point on them? Similar to this past year. Iowa let neb score 15 unanswered, before getting a last second field goal. This in your eyes means Iowa is a far superior team?
 

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It took a 20 some point comeback and a win in overtime for Bo to get one of those wins. That series was much closer to being 2-2 than 4-0 Nebraska but carry on.

How many interceptions did it take for Iowa to overcome Nebraska in Lincoln in 2015.Winking
 
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