NCAA Tournament seeding

[Knight Owl]

Interesting factoid...

In 2018, Michigan made it to the Championship Game without having to face a team seeded as a 5 or better. Basically, they didn’t have to face a top 20 team until the final game.

Michigan was a 3 seed and would lose to a 1 seed in Villanova.

Seeds to avoid at all cost...8 and 9. Nova did happen to win as an 8 seed in ‘85 as a member of the original brutal BigEast.

 

[Plum Street]

Interesting factoid...

In 2018, Michigan made it to the Championship Game without having to face a team seeded as a 5 or better. Basically, they didn’t have to face a top 20 team until the final game.

Michigan was a 3 seed and would lose to a 1 seed in Villanova.

Seeds to avoid at all cost...8 and 9. Nova did happen to win as an 8 seed in ‘85 as a member of the original brutal BigEast.

I agree with wanting to avoid the 8/9 seed lines . Gives you a winnable first game , but odds are you’re not making it out of the first weekend .
I would prefer a 3-6 seed or a 10-12 seed .
But the idea is just play in the tournament for the first time since 1991. It’s March madness and anything can happen .
In the 2018 tournament you reference , Michigan needed a miracle buzzer beater over houston to advance out of the first weekend.

 

[Knight Owl]

I agree with wanting to avoid the 8/9 seed lines . Gives you a winnable first game , but odds are you’re not making it out of the first weekend .
I would prefer a 3-6 seed or a 10-12 seed .
But the idea is just play in the tournament for the first time since 1991. It’s March madness and anything can happen .
In the 2018 tournament you reference , Michigan needed a miracle buzzer beater over houston to advance out of the first weekend.

Interesting too that both the 8 and 9 seeds have had less success making it to the Sweet 16 than the 10, 11 and 12 seeds...yet no team from the bottom half of the bracket has won it all....yet.

 

[G- RUnit]

8-9 game is the kiss of death. You play a team virtually equal to you and your reward is a #1 seed. As stated above, much rather be a higher numbered seed.

Wish all the bracketologists out there would address/predict seeding which is far more important/difficult.

 

[Knight Owl]

8-9 game is the kiss of death. You play a team virtually equal to you and your reward is a #1 seed. As stated above, much rather be a higher numbered seed.

Wish all the bracketologists out there would address/predict seeding which is far more important/difficult.

The data suggest that the NCAA has done a pretty good job of seeding teams. The only “mistake” is that 9 seeds have won 51.4% of first round games...which is only 2 games above a 50/50 split for the 9 seed in first round matchups.

 

[goru7]

The data suggest that the NCAA has done a pretty good job of seeding teams. The only “mistake” is that 9 seeds have won 51.4% of first round games...which is only 2 games above a 50/50 split for the 9 seed in first round matchups.

The NCAA has done a terrible job of seeding teams. Every year they overseed or underseed undeserving and deserving teams and sometimes no where near the 2 rankings. Like the year they seeded Kentucky as a 8 seed to take on an undefeated Wichita State team in a second round game. Every year the bracket comes out there are between 7-12 misseeded teams .

 

[Knight Owl]

The NCAA has done a terrible job of seeding teams. Every year they overseed or underseed undeserving and deserving teams and sometimes no where near the 2 rankings. Like the year they seeded Kentucky as a 8 seed to take on an undefeated Wichita State team in a second round game. Every year the bracket comes out there are between 7-12 misseeded teams .

Fair point with Kentucky, although that Kentucky team had lost three times to Florida and twice to Arkansas (NIT team) that season. Not sure where they would have put Kentucky using the new system the committee uses now.

 

[G- RUnit]

The data suggest that the NCAA has done a pretty good job of seeding teams. The only “mistake” is that 9 seeds have won 51.4% of first round games...which is only 2 games above a 50/50 split for the 9 seed in first round matchups.

The data is how you manipulate it. Seeding is too often head scratching.

 

[Knight Owl]

The NCAA has done a terrible job of seeding teams. Every year they overseed or underseed undeserving and deserving teams and sometimes no where near the 2 rankings. Like the year they seeded Kentucky as a 8 seed to take on an undefeated Wichita State team in a second round game. Every year the bracket comes out there are between 7-12 misseeded teams .

I could probably rephrase to say that their mis-seeds even out in the long run in that actual winning percentages by seed are what one would expect them to be if seeding is accurate.