NCAA TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND DAY 1 GAME THREAD

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Not reactionary. It’s a 15 year trend played out as recently as just a year ago. It’s not a bad conference, just an overrated one. Weird response.
Overrated by who exactly? The computer ratings that consistently put it as a top conference?
 

RUsojo

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Overrated by who exactly? The computer ratings that consistently put it as a top conference?
Those that deem a depth conference the “best conference” ignoring top end strength as a consideration.

C’mon this is not news
 

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Those that deem a depth conference the “best conference” ignoring top end strength as a consideration.

C’mon this is not news
Oh, so you have some “proof” that actually the conferences should be rated by top end strength? You got a formula for that? Or are you just spouting ********?
 
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Let's at least wait for the first round to end before we say the B1G stinks.

Indiana and Rutgers were both seeded in the first four. Expect those to be 50-50 games, and the league met that expectation (sadly).

Iowa as a 5 was supposed to win today and lose Saturday.

Michigan as an 11 was supposed to lose today, but won. So the league has exactly as many wins as projected by the seeding, just not by the team thay was most expected to win.
 

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Yes - titles
By this logic the WCC becomes the best conference this season if Gonzaga wins the championship.

You can certainly have differing opinions about the best way to rank conferences but to declare one objectively correct is bizarre.
 

RUsojo

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By this logic the WCC becomes the best conference this season if Gonzaga wins the championship.

You can certainly have differing opinions about the best way to rank conferences but to declare one objectively correct is bizarre.
No no no. That’s your logic - or what your ascribing. I’m saying the lack of titles over an extended period of time is evidence it’s not the best conference. Kenpom would even tell you over that same period the big is not often the most frequent conference with the most teams in kenpom top 10.

This is a nuanced conversation for sure and you know that.

And to be clear I haven’t declared any conference the best of late. People not me have declared big ten the best! I have said the big ten is overrated.
 

kcg88

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The Big Ten has lost seven title games since they last won one. If you think that's anything other than variance I I don't know what to tell you (other than that you're wrong).
 
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No no no. That’s your logic. I’m saying the lack of titles over an extended period of time is evidence it’s not the best conference. Kenpom would even tell you over that same period the big is not often the most frequent conference with the most teams in kenpom top 10.

This is a nuanced conversation for sure and you know that.
Wait though, I never said the Big Ten was the best conference.

Do you think the consensus is that the Big Ten is the best conference, generally?
 

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On this board that’s definitely the consensus.

Big10 is the deepest, which makes it the toughest IMO.

But the "Best" conference is up for debate. There are a lot of contenders. All depends on how you measure "Best"
 

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On this board that’s definitely the consensus.
Over the last 15 years? Or the last 3?

I think it was the best conference in 19-20 and 20-21 (even with the tournament flame out) but that’s not like a permanent state of affairs. I think it is the 2nd strongest this year. I don’t remember like 2009.
 

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But also when you said overrated I figured you meant outside this board. In general I expect a conference to be overrated by its own fanbases
 

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Lol at ball getting stuck and cheerleaders getting it
If Fred Gruninger was the St Mary's AD, hed be in the cheerleader coach's face right now yelling "Why didn't OUR cheerleaders think of doing that?" That's the type of stuff Fred would get upset about.
 
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Pancho1939_rivals

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Danny Hurley terrible down the stretch. What to they hell was that last play?

Love to see the sportsmanship Ts are no longer applicable