NCAA to tighten transfer guidelines

[John_J_Rambo]

Supposedly reducing number of immediately-eligible waivers granted. Shea Patterson & Justin Fields named in the report, with Fields' waiver called 'ambiguous'.

Interesting to see if this deters kids from entering the portal & also how this might impact Hoisker hoops.

Story: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...lines-limit-immediate-eligibility/1569260001/

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

Unless you're a coach or AD. Then you can just stay a couple of weeks, move for a raise or promotion, etc.

 

[huskerssalts]

I’ll say this much, the transfer portal is just ridiculous. It was set up to help some players that really need it but instead, it’s turned into a deal where a player that knows he isn’t going to play can just transfer out to greener pastures...instead of buckling down and working harder for your spot.

And it’s complete BS the way the NCAA is working the eligibility part of it., the NCAA is allowing some player immediate eligibility for BS excuses (when you know dam well it’s because they lost their starting spot to a younger player...cough cough....) but then denying others with legit reasons. It should simply be “out one year” or “immediately eligible” for all...period.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Tim Miles has thoughts.. here's info from Husker hoops regarding transfers during his tenure. kind of interesting:

pretty clear those players did, indeed, find greener pastures in terms of playing time after transferring to NU

 

[TruHusker]

I’ll say this much, the transfer portal is just ridiculous. It was set up to help some players that really need it but instead, it’s turned into a deal where a player that knows he isn’t going to play can just transfer out to greener pastures...instead of buckling down and working harder for your spot.

And it’s complete BS the way the NCAA is working the eligibility part of it., the NCAA is allowing some player immediate eligibility for BS excuses (when you know dam well it’s because they lost their starting spot to a younger player...cough cough....) but then denying others with legit reasons. It should simply be “out one year” or “immediately eligible” for all...period.

There are still coaching changes, scheme changes and what if the college gets in trouble? I don't know how one determines if they lost their position and since I have never seen the applications, I can't judge what is in them without reading one. Obviously it isn't always a cut and dried deal.

 

[dinglefritz]

There are still coaching changes, scheme changes and what if the college gets in trouble? I don't know how one determines if they lost their position and since I have never seen the applications, I can't judge what is in them without reading one. Obviously it isn't always a cut and dried deal.

There has to be a mechanism for players to transfer. Sitting out a year if there weren't serious mitigating circumstances I think is fair. JMHO.

 

[oldjar07]

Tim Miles has thoughts.. here's info from Husker hoops regarding transfers during his tenure. kind of interesting:

pretty clear those players did, indeed, find greener pastures in terms of playing time after transferring to NU

And what was our record with those players and what happened to that coach? Sorry but the ridiculous number of transfers you see in college basketball shouldn't be a model for college football.

 

[oldjar07]

There are still coaching changes, scheme changes and what if the college gets in trouble? I don't know how one determines if they lost their position and since I have never seen the applications, I can't judge what is in them without reading one. Obviously it isn't always a cut and dried deal.

You commit to the school, not a scheme or coach. And it should be a real extenuating circumstance to be granted a waiver, not some BS excuse.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

And what was our record with those players and what happened to that coach? Sorry but the ridiculous number of transfers you see in college basketball shouldn't be a model for college football.

I mean, he was replaced by a coach whose #1 priority in recruiting was to attract transfers, so I'm not sure this is exactly getting your point across.

I also don't know that penalizing a kid 25% of his eligibility is 'fair' when things change and aren't always as they seem on official visits and so on.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

You commit to the school, not a scheme or coach. And it should be a real extenuating circumstance to be granted a waiver, not some BS excuse.

then why doesn't the dean of students do all the recruiting?

 

[huskerssalts]

You commit to the school, not a scheme or coach. And it should be a real extenuating circumstance to be granted a waiver, not some BS excuse.

See, now this I agree with. But at the same time I get the deal about picking a school and then a Head Coach and his system. So I also agree with TruHusker as well with him saying a new head coach with his systems and all that. Some of it is impossible to tell. And I completely get that. We all know the Georgia issue with Fields and it was very obvious...ones like that are the ones needing fixed. You can’t approve obvious ones and then reject others that have legit circumstances. I’m glad I’m not one of those talking heads because they need to get this fixed and right or it has the potential to ruin college football. You can already see it with all the players in limbo waiting on transfers.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

See, now this I agree with. But at the same time I get the deal about picking a school and then a Head Coach and his system. So I also agree with TruHusker as well with him saying a new head coach with his systems and all that. Some of it is impossible to tell. And I completely get that. We all know the Georgia issue with Fields and it was very obvious...ones like that are the ones needing fixed. You can’t approve obvious ones and then reject others that have legit circumstances. I’m glad I’m not one of those talking heads because they need to get this fixed and right or it has the potential to ruin college football. You can already see it with all the players in limbo waiting on transfers.

if players committed to the school, and not coaches/systems, Pepperdine would never lose a game in any sport, ever.

 

[huskerssalts]

if players committed to the school, and not coaches/systems, Pepperdine would never lose a game in any sport, ever.

Oh I agree with you, and most ever one on this thread. This is one of those things where more then one view has good points. Like I said, I’m glad it’s not on me to fix it

 

[TruHusker]

You commit to the school, not a scheme or coach. And it should be a real extenuating circumstance to be granted a waiver, not some BS excuse.

Well, you said it didn't you? What is a "real extenuating circumstance" and what is a BS excuse? There are no clear guidelines and as fans we will really never know what goes on at these schools, only what we are told.

I agree to an extent about committing to the school but the reality is the coaches make it or break it. NE is a good example of guys hitting the road when MR left and SF came in. One was pro style, the other spread. So is that fair to a kid? If coaches would have changed during Crouches time he likely would not have won the Heisman.

edit: I had a neighbor kid who also went to our church we were good friends with. He moved away and ended up being a very good athlete. He just didn't gain the weight he needed to and went to Butler CC and played DE. He was recruited and ended up at Arizona when Stoops was there. He said that was the biggest mess he had ever seen. Yelling, cussing, lack of respect, totally out of control. He got out along with several others. Sometimes what is being sold may not be what the actual product is.

 

[Mack In Motion]

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