NCAA recommends allowing multiple transfers

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

I remember when I would tell Gonzo the connection from fan to program is going to be hit directly by much of this nonsense which would be worse for players of all types in the long run. People cannot see the forest through the trees, and I notice many of the guys clamoring for rules changes are now wanting it to stop or saying nothing at all.

They were told repeatedly by several don’t budge because if you do this would never end and it would destroy college athletics.

here we are.

The whole “omg players are so abused. We need to pay them” whining was a total charade. These athletes get scholarships where they barely have to pay for school if at all. The basketball and football team have their own, extremely nice, dorms (much nicer dorms than most students.)

 

[BigCat241]

“omg players are so abused. We need to pay them”

There is a difference between "paying them" and "allowing them to be paid".

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

The whole “omg players are so abused. We need to pay them” whining was a total charade. These athletes get scholarships where they barely have to pay for school if at all. The basketball and football team have their own, extremely nice, dorms (much nicer dorms than most students.)

They were compensated plenty. This was always a grievance play and America 2022 cannot see through ******** and are scared out of their minds every time someone claims abuse in any form.

It will destroy everything before it ever improves.

 

[Michigan Fan]

The NCAA is correcting a mistake ... you can’t justify penalizing one group of “Student-Athletes” because they play a revenue sport ... Dennis Dodd bring up a very valid point and why this is changing and why it will be rubber stamp this week by the NCAA

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

The NCAA is correcting a mistake ... you can’t justify penalizing one group of “Student-Athletes” because they play a revenue sport ... Dennis Dodd bring up a very valid point and why this is changing and why it will be rubber stamp this week by the NCAA

What he’s not saying is this will essentially hurt the sport over the long run. Fan investment is already teetering toward the negative. In popular sports rules need to be in place to protect the sport. Otherwise the popularity is going to fall and fall drastically. When this happens it will resemble something closer to what baseball does in college athletics, especially in basketball. This is going to turn into a training league for NBA players.

We won’t have this both ways. You can’t maintain heavy fan involvement while destroying the very thing that makes the fans feel a certain way toward the teams. And this doesn’t even get into the smaller programs that will essentially be left for dead in all of this. Cinderella’s are about to be largely wiped out.

People will see in time that all of this was a bad idea. People that love the sport anyway.

 

[Michigan Fan]

What he’s not saying is this will essentially hurt the sport over the long run. Fan investment is already teetering toward the negative. In popular sports rules need to be in place to protect the sport. Otherwise the popularity is going to fall and fall drastically. When this happens it will resemble something closer to what baseball does in college athletics, especially in basketball. This is going to turn into a training league for NBA players.

We won’t have this both ways. You can’t maintain heavy fan involvement while destroying the very thing that makes the fans feel a certain way toward the teams. And this doesn’t even get into the smaller programs that will essentially be left for dead in all of this. Cinderella’s are about to be largely wiped out.

People will see in time that all of this was a bad idea. People that love the sport anyway.

It is also about treating “Student-Athletes” equally ... Jay Bilas on this and he is correct as well ... Fans may not like it but you can’t have one set of rules for one group of scholarship athletes and a different set of rules for another and they are receiving the same benefits

 

[Glenn's Take]

A league with no salary cap and unrestricted free agency every year. That's going to be great.

 

[BigCat241]

It is also about treating “Student-Athletes” equally ... Jay Bilas on this and he is correct as well ... Fans may not like it but you can’t have one set of rules for one group of scholarship athletes and a different set of rules for another and they are receiving the same benefits

The "There are just as many down transfers as up transfers" is interesting and something I dont think the people that claim "mid-majors" and Cinderella's are dead think about. You saw it in a guy like Witjer who (at the time) transfered down in a big way from UK to Gonzaga and dominated for them.

 

[jrpross_rivals]

Maybe the ncaa should quit deciding cases in such a timely matter. If they could put these high profile cases on hold a little longer it would benefit society as a whole

Funny how with this, “oh we better get on it!” But when someone is blatantly cheating, we might hear something about it within 3-4 years.

Anyway, this idea is stupid. One free transfer is a kindness. Unlimited just turns it into free agency. This is still college for crying out loud.

 

[WeWant9]

The one time, penalty free, transfer was good enough. I don’t see the need for unlimited transfers with no sitting out a year.

I couldn’t imagine trying to be a college coach these days. You got players demanding x amount of NIL money and then have to walk on egg shells to make sure you don’t upset anyone and they transfer out. I think this pushes a lot of good coaches to the pros, college sports are probably just not worth the headache.

 

[Runt#1969]

Next they can transfer at the first T V timeout

Brilliant ! Sheer Brilliance !

 

[UK90]

I couldn’t imagine trying to be a college coach these days. You got players demanding x amount of NIL money and then have to walk on egg shells to make sure you don’t upset anyone and they transfer out. I think this pushes a lot of good coaches to the pros, college sports are probably just not worth the headache.

It’s almost gonna be like they’re never done recruiting a player. First they gotta convince em to come, and then at the end of every season you gotta convince em to stay.

Not gonna much room for the tough disciplinarian style coach with the kids now having so much leverage. Coaches are gonna have to be doing a whole lot more player ***-kissing now.

 

[K_TIME]

I remember when I would tell Gonzo the connection from fan to program is going to be hit directly by much of this nonsense which would be worse for players of all types in the long run. People cannot see the forest through the trees, and I notice many of the guys clamoring for rules changes are now wanting it to stop or saying nothing at all.

They were told repeatedly by several don’t budge because if you do this would never end and it would destroy college athletics.

here we are.

Yeah....what is going to happen is the big schools will thrive for a while and the universe of college fans in general will start to decrease little by little

- As the smaller schools will close up football programs, fan support in general will cease as how do you think Vandy fans feel when their two best players transfer and they stunk last year.
- On top of this ludicrous transfer rule....you have unabashed NIL that allows the "haves" to just go buy any kid they want from high school and then can pay top notch transfer kids from Vandy, UL, LSU to show up as starters for Bama, etc...

As a Reds fan...I'd follow the Reds but I'd watch the playoffs, world series, etc...Now that baseball is essentially all the talent goes to big market teams, etc...I've watched maybe 4 world series games in 5 years. So the universe of fans in baseball is shrinking. The same exasperation could soon follow smaller P5 fanbases who just give up and refuse to be minor league feeders to top tier P5 schools.

"Following a 12% decline in Major League Baseball (MLB) TV viewership between 2019 and 2021, GlobalData notes that the sport is struggling to appeal to younger viewers—estimating that the average age of a baseball fan in North America is 57."

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Funny how with this, “oh we better get on it!” But when someone is blatantly cheating, we might hear something about it within 3-4 years.

Anyway, this idea is stupid. One free transfer is a kindness. Unlimited just turns it into free agency. This is still college for crying out loud.

It is also about treating “Student-Athletes” equally ... Jay Bilas on this and he is correct as well ... Fans may not like it but you can’t have one set of rules for one group of scholarship athletes and a different set of rules for another and they are receiving the same benefits

Bilas is a joke. His methods have already ruined amateur athletics. He’s a grievance pusher and uses lawyer language to push an agenda. It’s not good for the league and nothing he suggest is good for the sport. He’s just pushing popular nonsense that players endorse. He works the grievance industry because that’s what espn wants.

He also said UNC did nothing wrong and the ncaa doesn’t have a right to punish them at all.

In his mind there should be no rules. None of this will be good and people will see that in time.

 

[Michigan Fan]

Bilas is a joke. His methods have already ruined amateur athletics. He’s a grievance pusher and uses lawyer language to push an agenda. It’s not good for the league and nothing he suggest is good for the sport. He’s just pushing popular nonsense that players endorse. He works the grievance industry because that’s what espn wants.

He also said UNC did nothing wrong and the ncaa doesn’t have a right to punish them at all.

In his kind there should be no rules. None of this will be good and people will see that in time.

This is my feeling on it I have zero sympathy for the schools. ZERO.

The NCAA and its members spent decades fighting every single player compensation proposal or model as opposed to working toward a mutually agreeable solution.

Now, the United States Supreme Court and State Governments have made it known that an economic model based on not paying the actual talent and probably along with having the ability to move isn’t going to stand.

If college sports become like European Soccer, then so be it. The colleges need to adjust or die on this front. If that’s callous, then tough luck. What’s truly callous is that these schools have made hundreds of millions or billions of dollars over the years while not compensating their personnel at all, much less anywhere close to their market value along with Freedom of movement. Again College Fans need to adjust or find other interest ... the gig is truly up ... Justice Kavanaugh said as much ... my 2 Cents

 

[azubuikefan]

One free transfer through the portal and then they can become a grad transfer if they want in my opinion. Letting them transfer 4 times is ridiculous. Hell, I'd transfer 5. Redshirt at the one with the hottest chicks and best facilities and just work out and chase girls for a year.

 

[UK-Chulo]

This is my feeling on it I have zero sympathy for the schools. ZERO.

The NCAA and its members spent decades fighting every single player compensation proposal or model as opposed to working toward a mutually agreeable solution.

Now, the United States Supreme Court and State Governments have made it known that an economic model based on not paying the actual talent and probably along with having the ability to move isn’t going to stand.

If college sports become like European Soccer, then so be it. The colleges need to adjust or die on this front. If that’s callous, then tough luck. What’s truly callous is that these schools have made hundreds of millions or billions of dollars over the years while not compensating their personnel at all, much less anywhere close to their market value along with Freedom of movement. Again College Fans need to adjust or find other interest ... the gig is truly up ... Justice Kavanaugh said as much ... my 2 Cents

I’ve been a supporter of adopting the EU soccer method. Honestly feel it will deepen the talent pool.

 

[TopCatCal]

Seems like the NCAA has basically just given up. Everyone just do whatever you want now, they’re done trying to maintain a sense of order to all of this.

With Mark Emmert running the show, what else would we expect. I don't know which is in more disarray the NCAA or our country over the last year & a half.

 

[sa_hunt]

How would you ever graduate with your academics if you keep switching schools?? We all know credits are impossible to transfer from here to there.

 

[chroix]

The SEC could prohibit in conference transfers and do a lot to nip this stuff in the bud. As the SEC emerges as the dominant conference it would effectively mean that a player couldn’t cut in the pros if they left.

 

[uky8unc5]

Insanity...Here's what comes next:

My son played future UNC player (Reyshawn Terry) twice in 7 days.
...First time with Glenn HS
...Next time with Reynolds HS

 

[TankedCat]

if they stick with the sit out a year rule after the first I'm OK with it.

If a kid wants to be a journeyman college player and is willing to sit out a year, it impacts him as much as the program he leaves - and that is assuming he is actually good.

maybe we should have the sit out a year rule for head coaches too.

 

[KMKAT]

Stupid recommendation.

Well, Emmert does fit this new policy.

 

[KMKAT]

if they stick with the sit out a year rule after the first I'm OK with it.

If a kid wants to be a journeyman college player and is willing to sit out a year, it impacts him as much as the program he leaves - and that is assuming he is actually good.

maybe we should have the sit out a year rule for head coaches too.

Every 2nd team athlete will be moving the first chance they get, and even attempt to be eligible at the next school that same year.

 

[TankedCat]

after the impact OAD has had on the sport, would that really make a difference?

its not like we're talking up senior night and singing My Old Kentucky Home as a honored tradition anymore.

We essentially have a new team every year

 

[KYExtemper]

Get ready for players at 4 colleges over 4 years that never graduate.

 

[Catclaw1]

College sports, at least the only two that matter, will never be the same as we know it.

it’s beginning to lose that feel good feeling I use to get watching game day or waiting for a UK tip. It’s just not the same. Hopefully one day we can get back to the way it use to be and just let all these shaedon sharpes go onto the nba with their fake degrees

 

[o_turkeywildturkey]

That is a horrible idea. If the transfer portal isn’t bad enough already. A player doesn’t like his playing time, just transfer every year. Ridiculous idea.

 

[NC Weasel]

Two things:

1) This is the NCAA taking a position they could win in court if necessary. Its not a position they like or wanted, its what they could defend if needed.

2) Money changes everything. The illusion of amateurism was kept alive by the NCAA, schools, athletic depth, etc. so they could make more MONEY. The curtain is being pulled back right now.

On one hand its a shame, because as fans we love the game, the loyalties, the purity of it all. On the other hand, those are somewhat childish dreams now. Sports is business now. If its on TV its business. And thats simply a reality we can't change.