NCAA effectively vacated the state flag
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No problem with changing the flag but the NCAA getting involved in this is not acceptable..what if they think we should have an Ethiopian aviator as governor or else.
They have started a dangerous path....
Should the NCAA stop all NCAA events in the state of Washington until they stop allowing terrorist to take over a part of a city?
They have started a dangerous path....
Should the NCAA stop all NCAA events in the state of Washington until they stop allowing terrorist to take over a part of a city?
Washington isn’t asking Black athletes to play in a stadium that was flying the confederate battle flag
When our leaders are too scared/stupid/racist to change something that should have been changed long ago sometimes outside forces should take action to force their hand. It wouldn’t have happened had the NCAA not said what they did. Regardless of what MS Business leaders had said would happen if we didn’t change the flag. Hell, Bill Yates signed with the economic council saying he supports the change yet every elected official in Neshoba county voted Nay.
The only reason the NCAA's strategy worked was because it was reasonable. Legitimacy is important for a legislative body!
If the rest of the country really thinks we changed the flag strictly because of pressure from the NCAA then we have accomplished absolutely nothing as for as improving our national image.
You’re acting like the NCAA just rolled out this type of policy out of left field. This wasn’t really that new....just an addendum to a policy they’ve already had for Mississippi and others for two decades now.
I was correct...You are unable to grasp the the significance of the their action....Oh well.
What next will the NCAA pressure a change.....you are rather small minded...
As happy as I am that the flag changed, it took a perfect storm to get it done. The current national political climate, the NCAA, the SEC, big money in-state donors, the Mississippi Baptist Convention and other religious organizations, coaches visiting the Capitol, along with the fact that these legislators aren’t up for election for another 3 years, were all contributing factors. But outsiders won’t look into any of that. I’m just glad it changed.
well no siht .....we've been trying to change it since the early 90s....
just no one would listen...not listening leads to scolding from a higher power....
just no one would listen...not listening leads to scolding from a higher power....
Oh my...20 years they did something they should not be involved in made it OK...
Again this has nothing to do with the right or wrong of changing the flag..I have no problem with changing the flag but the NCAA should not extort any state into an action. Period.
Maybe one day the NCAA might say that any state with liberal governors can not have a NCAA sanctioned event..bet you see things in a different light then.
Liberal just don't think well....
I expect the NCAA to be gone in five years or just so toothless they just become a sports trivia joke.
Liberals didn't elect people like McDaniels and the others who tried their damn best to stop the flag change.
I mean, the ncaa said some **** and in a handful of days the flag change has been approved.
Forgive the public for seeing what is right in front of them.
Mississppi had a chance to change the flag in the first couple weeks of June and didnt. Had there been progress a few weeks ago, I doubt the ncaa would have chimed in and coaches wouldn't have headed to Jackson.
The time for it to change and be seen as the state wanting to change has passed.
It looks like the state went kicking and screaming into the change.
Neshoba county officials voting against the flag is the biggest endorsement for changing the flag
SEC being in the NCAA days are numbered....there will be a new organization of 30-40 schools sooner than later.... we have to do everything possible to make sure MSU is part of it.
The part that bothers me is that the state really has changed but that part will be lost forever in all the grandstanding by the NCAA, SEC , Kylin Hill et al.
But none of those other organizations made an announcement until after the NCAA and SEC did leading me to believe that they were influenced by the possible consequences.
******** they do too - there are As many crazies on the far left as the far right
So you have a problem with entities outside an organization forcing said organization to do what is morally right even when that organization refuses to do what is morally right. Do you have a problem with JFK using federal resources to integrate Ole Miss? Same scenario. Forces outside Mississippi make it accept something it didn't want to do.
What's the difference between being proud of keeping a racist flag and being racist?
The NCAA represents schools that are heavily invested in athletics. A substantial percentage of those athletes are black. Not wanting them to play under a confederate battle flag is very much their business. Using their leverage to help bring about the right change is right. It is amazing to me how many people walk down a path that suggests the very same entity would turn around and choose to do something terrible now. Like they are just doing this one right thing as a setup before they start doing all kinds of wrong things.
If you think the NCAA had more influence than all of MS business leaders that signed on, it’s just because your pride doesn’t like people who ain’t from around here telling you what to do.
If you think the NCAA had more influence than all of MS business leaders that signed on, it’s just because your pride doesn’t like people who ain’t from around here telling you what to do.
Did this convention recently form? If not, then its had years to change the flag and did ****.
The NCAA announced further restrictions on games played in the state, a couple business leaders stated their opinion, and coaches came to Jackson to push for change.
Thats the timeline that will be remembered since the NCAA weighed in and suddenly **** got into gear.
I suggest that you talk to people involved in economic development. Other Businesses have elected not to do business in Mississippi because of the flag. NCAA is just a business like the others only difference is that they were vocal about it while the others don’t express their views publicly.
I've been wanting to changed that damned flag since Dick Pace hosed State out of an Egg Bowl in 1981, and Rebel fans were waving that piece of **** in my face.
If the NCAA shouldn't be involved in Mississippi politics, then neither should the Wal Marts or any other giant corporation with deep pockets who just buy whatever policy is best for them. At least the NCAA was advocating for its students.
I’ve been going to state games since the early 90s and I can never remember the state flag flying at games.
I was speaking of this particular instance. This one is strictly upon the conservatives. And I applaud all those conservatives who were brave enough to vote for changing the flag. Some of them may get un-elected the next time their seat comes up for a vote.
This **** storm is a classic example of what happens when people vote blindly along party lines and not for the best candidate. I make this statement in the direction of BOTH liberals and conservatives. In case you haven't noticed, BOTH parties are doing an abysmal job of representing their constituencies, they care only about themselves and getting re-elected.
Please don't waste time arguing over who is worse. People who fall back on this lame *** excuse are part of the problem, not the solution.
They are playing in stadiums in Virginia where the governor of Virginia may be at. NCAA hasn’t said squat about that.
The fastest path to losing relevance as an organization is to hold some groups to a standard, but be blind to others.
Richard Dick Pace lived to be 87 years old and died of an extended illness according to his Obit.