NCAA Changes that Need to be Made

[AGEE11]

Yes, I am a simple redneck from Kentucky who is till steamed over getting hosed.
Yes, this will never get NCAA attention.
Yes, this would greatly improve college basketball.
Fix Flopping (one of these two)Eliminate the charge call completely.Enforce a one game suspension for flops. Publicize officials ratingsLike the NBA has this year. They blow a call make it public. They will make sure what they do next time.This also makes the selection of Final 4 refs transparent.Allow teams to blackball 3 referees each at the beginning of the yearForce picks to be stationary. No more hip checks!30 second shot clock, speed the game back upFreedom of Movement or 80's Pistons defenseHas to be consistent. No more guessing. Hand checks and body blocks are fouls all year and all 40 minutes or they are not.

Again, just my two pennies worth

 

[maysvilleky]

I don't see a big need to change the shot clock, but that's me.

I do see these changes needed:

1) Flop should be ejection for rest of the game.
2) All shot clock and possession violations should be reviewable regardless of time of game.
3) Move the 3 point line out to NBA range.

As far as officials...I think prior to the start of each opening round pod/regional/Final 4 that each team should get a list of officials that are going to be assigned to those particular games and have the right to exclude 1 and rank the rest. Because I do believe officials can have a bias against a team. Then assign the officials that are most acceptable for both teams (when there are 2 games in 1 night then you mix and match the best you can without the excluded officials).

 

[TankedCat]

I don't care for flopping but as long as charging is part of the game, I don't see it as an issue.

If you're going to lower your shoulder or use your butt to move a planted defender out of position outside the arc under the basket, its a charge by definition, so I don't see the flop as a big deal - the official should be looking at the defenders feet ( of course someone who believes they have more expertise on this can weigh in on it). I recognize there are some charges where the offensive player overtakes the defender as they are both moving but on the whole I don't remember having much problem with those calls.

but that does lead to the bigger issue of officiating

and I think the officiating rating is an excellent idea.

Any official with a rating below a certain number is put on probation, and then if that rating doesn't improve they are released.

The officials would hate it and fight it every step of the way but its the only way you can remove bias from the game.

This post was edited on 4/6 11:13 AM by TankedCat

 

[Xzander]

we had 3 shot clock violations with the time we have now. 30 sec would of been more.

 

[katkraze]

cut shot clock to 25 seconds, eliminate the flop with in-game technicals, widen the lane to nba size, drastic change in the charge rule, call the elbow inside

 

[barryn2000]

A flop is too subjective to be equal to a flagrant 2. I doubt you'd ever see a flop foul...every flop call would require review and eventually almost every charge would be reviewed, dragging games to 2.5 - 3 hours.

The best way to handle flopping is no call at all. The flopper fell on his *** and made it a 4 on 5 game.

I hate flopping too but you have to consider the unintentional affects to the whole game. We already have too many breaks which helps the teams that play the same 5 nearly 40 min.

 

[preacherfan]

I can't believe nobody mentioned this one......review the shot clock for violations throughout the game. It will only happen once or twice but for us, the once was highly significant.

 

[dotcomok]

Mirror NBA rules and use NBA officials. Personally -- I think the college game is getting boring to watch....and too many game stoppages. other than BBN, the ratings have been dropping for regular season college games.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

I agree on most of your points. However, I think referees should be forced to address the media and be publicly held accountable. There is far too much money on the line for them not to be.

They should be given 24-48 hours to review their calls and answer questions appropriately. They need at least 24 hours so that they cannot use, 'Well we don't know what you're talking about' excuse.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Originally posted by maysvilleky:

I don't see a big need to change the shot clock, but that's me.

I do see these changes needed:

1) Flop should be ejection for rest of the game.
2) All shot clock and possession violations should be reviewable regardless of time of game.
3) Move the 3 point line out to NBA range.

As far as officials...I think prior to the start of each opening round pod/regional/Final 4 that each team should get a list of officials that are going to be assigned to those particular games and have the right to exclude 1 and rank the rest. Because I do believe officials can have a bias against a team. Then assign the officials that are most acceptable for both teams (when there are 2 games in 1 night then you mix and match the best you can without the excluded officials).

Ejection for flopping is too harsh when you have refs that can't even properly ID a shot clock violation.

 

[jrm693]

Originally posted by barryn2000:
A flop is too subjective to be equal to a flagrant 2. I doubt you'd ever see a flop foul...every flop call would require review and eventually almost every charge would be reviewed, dragging games to 2.5 - 3 hours.

The best way to handle flopping is no call at all. The flopper fell on his *** and made it a 4 on 5 game.

I hate flopping too but you have to consider the unintentional affects to the whole game. We already have too many breaks which helps the teams that play the same 5 nearly 40 min.

Its a easy fix give the coaches two challenges make referees review play if coach is right he keeps his two challenges, if Referee is right Coach loses one challenge on second challenge if coach is wrong it is a technical foul. You can bet referees will not make bad calls intentionally. As season progresses to tournament the referees who have made the least wrong calls advance and the others watch from home.

 

[corypedia]

I agree with some suggestions here, but some are too over the top and simply wouldn't happen.

- 24 second shot clock
- Technical for a flop (ejection is silly and will never happen)
- Set picks only
- Revert back to the rule from last season where a player must be set prior to the offensive player starting his upward motion towards the basket for a charge call
- Reviews for any play where possession is in doubt (shot clock, out of bounds, etc.)
- 8 second backcourt instead of 10 seconds and a timeout does not reset the count

Ultimately, the bottom line needs to be consistency. The fact that there is always a discussion about one team having an advantage over another based on a tight or loose whistle is a joke. A foul needs to be a foul.

 

[Kats23]

Change the review policy. The officials should be able to check all clock disparities all the time.

Flopping should be a Tech

Charge/Block needs to be defined as one hard pressed rule. The player should have to be out of control and the defender has to be set. I'm talking planted when the defender gets there. Eliminate the ability for defenders to slide over and take a charge. You are punishing the offensive player for making a good offensive move and beating his defender off the dribble when you allow another defender the ability to just slide over bc his guy was in the lane.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Another suggestion for Referees that I didn't mention is that they should all either be employed strictly by the leagues or the NCAA. They should also be full time employees, as well. During the off season they should be working on their craft and honing their skills.

While I realize they will never be perfect, they can at least be much better than they are now. I think that's all most fans in general can ask for.

 

[We-Todd-Did]

I understand wanting a shorter shot clock, but I dont want to see teams forced to run if it doesnt suit the personnel. It's not like anyone is doing 4 corners now.

Hip checking needs to go. I guess you could call it for body movement, not just feet.

I wouldn't mind seeing the jump ball back, either.

 

[CatsIndy2010]

if officials don't follow the shot clock and allow a team to score despite the time expiring... then there's something wrong. That whole play in the game messed with us.

 

[barryn2000]

Originally posted by jrm693:

Originally posted by barryn2000:
A flop is too subjective to be equal to a flagrant 2. I doubt you'd ever see a flop foul...every flop call would require review and eventually almost every charge would be reviewed, dragging games to 2.5 - 3 hours.

The best way to handle flopping is no call at all. The flopper fell on his *** and made it a 4 on 5 game.

I hate flopping too but you have to consider the unintentional affects to the whole game. We already have too many breaks which helps the teams that play the same 5 nearly 40 min.

Its a easy fix give the coaches two challenges make referees review play if coach is right he keeps his two challenges, if Referee is right Coach loses one challenge on second challenge if coach is wrong it is a technical foul. You can bet referees will not make bad calls intentionally. As season progresses to tournament the referees who have made the least wrong calls advance and the others watch from home.

Then you have people bitching about a team losing because of a tech foul on a questionable flop. It never ends...always comes back to being subjective.

I'd oppose anything that add more stoppages to the game. TV timeouts + team timeouts already affect the ability of deeper teams to wear down the opposing starters.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Get rid of the charge all together. Give coaches two challenges. All clock issues should be reviewed. Anything should be allowed to be reviewed.

 

[brianpoe]

Originally posted by AGEE11:
Yes, I am a simple redneck from Kentucky who is till steamed over getting hosed.
Yes, this will never get NCAA attention.
Yes, this would greatly improve college basketball.
Fix Flopping (one of these two)Eliminate the charge call completely.Enforce a one game suspension for flops. Publicize officials ratingsLike the NBA has this year. They blow a call make it public. They will make sure what they do next time.This also makes the selection of Final 4 refs transparent.Allow teams to blackball 3 referees each at the beginning of the yearForce picks to be stationary. No more hip checks!30 second shot clock, speed the game back upFreedom of Movement or 80's Pistons defenseHas to be consistent. No more guessing. Hand checks and body blocks are fouls all year and all 40 minutes or they are not.

Again, just my two pennies worth

We did not get hosed.

Otherwise I like all of your ideas.

 

[Cats_2010]

Originally posted by HeismanWildcat85:
Get rid of the charge all together. Give coaches two challenges. All clock issues should be reviewed. Anything should be allowed to be reviewed.

And how do you propose to do this? No charges allow for the offense to just bully their way to the basket and nothing the defense can do about it.

 

[wldktz1]

Originally posted by cats2010:

Originally posted by HeismanWildcat85:
Get rid of the charge all together. Give coaches two challenges. All clock issues should be reviewed. Anything should be allowed to be reviewed.

And how do you propose to do this? No charges allow for the offense to just bully their way to the basket and nothing the defense can do about it.

Which pretty much happens most of the time anyway. Like pump faking and then creating contact with the defender.
This post was edited on 4/6 12:58 PM by wldktz8

 

[Askeladden]

Banish charges. Running in front of a player planting your feet to the ground and calling an offensive foul is absolute BS. This will reduce flopping. Can also take away that stupid arc under the basket because of this.

I'm actually surprised that more injuries haven't occurred with players intentionally trying to draw contact by sliding in front of an offensive player moving toward the basket....

 

[RDCat07]

I think the NCAA does need to change many things and one of them is on flopping. I agree with others, Just make it a no call, and I am pretty sure that is why there was a no call on trey because of the oscar worthy acting the guy put on. I like the challenge rule someone mentioned earlier, just like the nfl have them lose a time out if they are wrong. I would also like to see intentional contact from the offense after a defender has left his feet (player jumping into defensive player on a 3) be a no call or charge. and if the refs can stop a game to review a foul then they can stop the game to review a shot clock violation, would like to see a 30 sec shot clock, would speed the game up. now with all that said, I don't blame the refs for our lose because they made some really bad calls on both ends, their timing for the shot clock violation was horrible for us but, if we don't get 3 violations in a row, out rebound, and just capitalize on the lead we had we all would be singing a different tune today

 

[AGEE11]

I would really like to see this happen on top of public rankings.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

30 second shot clock

No call on flops

Award held balls to the defense instead of using alternate possession arrow

Call a foul on whomever created contact. I hate watching shooters jump into defenders and the refs call a defensive foul.

 

[Kyspringcat]

Originally posted by barryn2000:
A flop is too
subjective to be equal to a flagrant 2. I doubt you'd ever see a flop
foul...every flop call would require review and eventually almost every
charge would be reviewed, dragging games to 2.5 - 3 hours.

The best way to handle flopping is no call at all. The flopper fell on his *** and made it a 4 on 5 game.

I
hate flopping too but you have to consider the unintentional affects to
the whole game. We already have too many breaks which helps the teams
that play the same 5 nearly 40 min.

Thank you for that opinion. I totally agree with your flop assessment.

This post was edited on 4/6 4:20 PM by KySpringCat

 

[LineSkiCat]

Originally posted by Xzander:

we had 3 shot clock violations with the time we have now. 30 sec would of been more.

To start, it's better for the game, whether that means Kentucky gets only 3 SCV's or 6 of them. More scoring, viewership goes up, and it's closer to the ultimate product: The NBA.College should make a good effort to mirror what the pro league does.

That said, Kentucky may or may not have had 3 shot clock violations with a 30 second SC. You could make the argument that with an extra 10 possessions each half (or whatever the number is) that would seriously tired out Wisconsin even more then they already were.

Kentucky might have never had a Shot Clock Violation because they would have eben able to drive at will on a Wisconsin team gasping for air.

 

[Kyspringcat]

On a side note, why doesn't the comment I'm replying too always show up? I have to go back and edit it in just so my comment makes sense. Help me out here. I've been reading here a long time but just now getting into commenting.

 

[Seth C]

The main issue that needs to be fixed? Simply that the players, coaches and fans have even the SLIGHTEST clue what to expect from the officials. Right now they don't. Every single game could be wildly different from the last. There is zero consistency in how the game is called and not only is it ruining the game, it's kind of pathetic they can't do a better job.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

Originally posted by KySpringCat:
On a side note, why doesn't the comment I'm replying too always show up? I have to go back and edit it in just so my comment makes sense. Help me out here. I've been reading here a long time but just now getting into commenting.

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[Kyspringcat]

Originally posted by WildcatfaninOhio:

Originally posted by KySpringCat:
On a side note, why doesn't the comment I'm replying too always show up? I have to go back and edit it in just so my comment makes sense. Help me out here. I've been reading here a long time but just now getting into commenting.

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Thank you so much. Got it down now.

 

[knotonalog]

TankedCat posted on 4/6/2015...

I don't care for flopping but as long as charging is part of the game, I don't see it as an issue.

If
you're going to lower your shoulder or use your butt to move a planted
defender out of position outside the arc under the basket, its a charge
by definition, so I don't see the flop as a big deal - the official
should be looking at the defenders feet ( of course someone who believes
they have more expertise on this can weigh in on it). I recognize there
are some charges where the offensive player overtakes the defender as
they are both moving but on the whole I don't remember having much
problem with those calls.

but that does lead to the bigger issue of officiating

and I think the officiating rating is an excellent idea.

Any
official with a rating below a certain number is put on probation, and
then if that rating doesn't improve they are released.

The officials would hate it and fight it every step of the way but its the only way you can remove bias from the game.

This post was edited on 4/6 11:13 AM by TankedCat
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I think the officials rating is an excellent idea also. However, it would depend on who does the rating. The charging foul is the most difficult to call and will probably always be.


If I'm not mistaken, they already have some sort of system. How else would they pick the refs for the conference tournament. I think the officials would go along with any fair system. They have more to lose than anyone thus making correct calls is in their best interest.

I'm not sure it would end the bias, how would you know if it was bias that caused the missed call or maybe out of position.?