let whatever reason that is play out for you. as for my opinion, their not winning a championship.
NBA PLAYOFFS
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The only reason I need is that they have the most dominant mismatch on the floor regardless of who they play. That means they’ll always have a chance. 7 of the 8 teams who are left aren’t winning a championship. 7 of those 8 teams have players who haven’t proven anything yet. You have to explain your reasoning. I’m cool to discuss basketball but I need to hear what your thought process is.
mostly suns and jazz. mitchell, paul are a matchup problem in terms of quickness to me. i picture philly scrambling in rotation. it’s not really about being worthy or what seed they are. it’s matchups and who are playing well as a team. the suns are playing stellar basketball.
maybe the most dominant mismatch inside the arc. this distinction is my reasoning behind my opinion. and if it means anything to you the suns and jazz had better records.
The Porzingis trade. The Knicks got rid of a guy who was on track to play just 60% of his games, was out for the year, and was about to be a free agent and walk anyways.. for 2 1st round picks. They did have to give up THJ.. but to get drafts picks for a player who was going to leave anyways.. Was a success. And it certainly looks even more like the Knicks won considering KPs future with the Mavs.
They did but embiid and Simmons are 40-9 on the season when they play together. That record is by far the best of any 2 all star tandem in the league. Embiid and Simmons both had long stretches of being injured or out in general. I’m not saying the sixers are locks but you should go look at the playoff Net ratings leader by team. You should also check out the playoff net ratings by lineup. You’ll notice a trend. 7/10 top lineups are all sixers related lineups. They have the best offensive rating and are leading the playoffs in PPG.
For a team that only had their 2 stars together for less than 70% of the season…..to be down by 2-3 games to the Suns and Jazz (and still get the 1 seed in the east)…….well…….and btw I want the Suns to win if it’s not the Sixers.
This is utter nonsense. The Mavs won that trade.
They got both Porzingis and Hardaway, two quality starters, in exchange for Dennis Smith, who was a bust, a broken down overpaid DeAndre Jordan, a washed up Matthews, and two future picks who’ve not yet become anything. Any team would gladly make that deal.
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What's nonsense is posting links from March like it's relevant to June. If you can't understand what changed since then, then you need to read up.
The fact is, the Knicks got something for a player who was about to walk. And the Mavs gambled, went out of their way to get KP before he hit the market. Only to deal with off-court fights, rape allegations, playing 45-game seasons, and now apparently wanting out of the organization all together.
Generally, when a team like the Knicks have a guy like KP, that team would have just lost him to free-agency. The Knicks were able to get two 1st round picks out of it.
If we want to dig further (this is obviously past the trade itself).. the Knicks are likely going to use those 2 picks to trade for a star player, where as KP is likely on his way out of Dallas in the coming weeks.. and I'm not sure what Dallas is going to even get for him. Not to mention, it seems Dallas is in a tricky situation, trying to keep Luka happy, but having little opportunity to build around him (what with trading their draft picks and all).
The Mavs might have won this trade at the start, but they didn't win it now. Porzingis is all but gone. THJ is a nice piece but hes not changing the franchise, and might wind up being gone also. And there's a reason why I didn't bring up Smith, Deandre or the other guys.. and it's because they weren't important. This was a trade for KP, everything else was just to get the trade right.
Just being honest I don’t think either team won that trade the Knicks haven’t done anything with those picks but the Mavs also have that awful Porzingod contract which will hinder their ability to make moves. It allows New York to sign people though so I would say them slightly. I wouldn’t say at this point having Porzingis on your roster at that contract is a positive what so ever but I do love the Mavericks so I’m not hating on them.
I see Knicks fans say they won the trade and I see Mavs fans say they won the trade. We will have to see what those picks turn into because at this point the only team it’s benefitted is New York because they have a **** ton of cap space going into a star studded off season. But the assets really aren’t anything of note.
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It's also worth noting that it appears the Knicks knew of the off-court issues with KP, in regards to the rape victim and the fight (IIRC, both came out right after the trade).
The one saving grace for this trade is that THJ is actually a more important piece than KP right now (but still well off from what Dallas thought they were getting from KP back when this trade happened).
Any Dallas fans want to chime in and say they are happy with this trade? Because I can tell you with 100% certainty.. Knicks fans are. When you consider that KP was walking in a few short months, New York won this trade at the end of the day. They didn't have to pay him a max contract (or close to a max), and they now have the most cap space going into next season.
The one saving grace for this trade is that THJ is actually a more important piece than KP right now (but still well off from what Dallas thought they were getting from KP back when this trade happened).
Any Dallas fans want to chime in and say they are happy with this trade? Because I can tell you with 100% certainty.. Knicks fans are. When you consider that KP was walking in a few short months, New York won this trade at the end of the day. They didn't have to pay him a max contract (or close to a max), and they now have the most cap space going into next season.
Where the Knicks ****** up was not the trade of KP, but maybe the handling of KP leading up to the trade.. but you can make the argument that KP is a disgruntled player regardless, knowing what we know now.
Like you said, the Knicks still haven't cashed in on what they coveted most, and that's the draft considerations.
The problem is.. the Knicks will probably botch those picks lolol.
I’d say most Mavericks fans should want to move KP because he doesn’t really look like a serviceable player to this point anymore.
And that's the most important part. Not that he's a head case before turning 25.. but that he's averaging like 50-game seasons before he's 25. Mavs have to move him, for many reasons. But idk who wants him. Dude has never been available for a full season.
I would say that if the Nets can get back just one of them.. they should handle the Bucks. As long as they can get either Kyrie or Harden back for 1 game, they will win the series.. but they do need one of them.
i too am going for the suns. as far as philly, i grew up 20 minutes from downtown. my opinion isn’t even statistically based. to me it’s about ball movement, cohesiveness etc. that’s why i said if it means anything to you. to me not so much, especially once you get to this point. to me it’s about matching up.
if you asked me to rate the top 5 of the remaining, i’d order it...
1 utah, phoenix, la
4 philly
5 milwaukee
i’m not really saying anything provocative here.
Based on the Nets injuries, I take it? If so, I'd apply the same to Utah and bump them down. If Donovan isn't 100%, LA might not lose another game in this series..
yeah. the remaining question of course is how effective kyrie can be with a bad high ankle sprain. and the same with mitchell. i’d still rate the jazz role players pretty high. they may not need him to be 100%. but yeah their cutting it close against a good team
it does kind of feel like the clippers are the team to beat, probably because of kawhi and lue’s championship experience. i just think the suns are playing better right now.
Shew.. idk if the Jazz can overcome this series with the rest of their guys.. I guess I'm rooting for them? I'm not a huge Kawhi/PG13 fan.. but I can't root for Mitchell.. At the same time.. I don't hate anyone on either team either.
Yeah, Suns should be the favorite right now.
UNTIL CP3 PULLS A HAMMY INJURY, RIGHT FELLOW HOUSTON FANS!?!?!
fml.
I don’t trust Utah. I can’t trust a team who’s second best player becomes a defensive liability the second a teams starts to exploit him with PNR. Plus Conley is hurt. With the clippers……I don’t think Paul George can be the second best player on a championship team plus their coach is awful and from game to game they don’t know who to play. I’d say it’s 1) Suns 2) Sixers 3) Milwaukee 4) Utah 5) Clippers
Bam gets 4th most votes in DPOY award, yet doesn’t make 1st team. Odd, isn’t it?
It was a good season hawks. Time to pack it up. No ones paying attention to the sixers just running through their opponents I guess.
Trae young is def 1st team all nba “cry to the refs“
As many BS floppin calls he gets you’d think he’d cry a lil less.
As many BS floppin calls he gets you’d think he’d cry a lil less.
There you go Barkley!!! Lmfao. 6’ers need a rebuild. Hawks played pitiful and pulled it out. Doc got out coached, again.
Rebuild? That's funny. Was an awful game from both teams. Outside of one nice run by each team...wasn't a good watch.
It’s easy. Hawks made runs with Embiid on the bench and utilized the shooting fouls with sending Simmons to the line. Thybuille and Hill were huge liabilities off the bench too.