National Semi-Finals Game Thread

STL_Cat

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Dec 4, 2011
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That is disgusting. You don't realize what is happening with Gonzaga right now, do you?

They are on the verge of going undefeated...first team in 45 years. Have a lottery pick. Bringing in top guard in country. They are becoming the "IT" school. It is abhorrent to root for them right now.

They are the new Duke.
It’s too late to wish it away, it’s already happened.

I have no problem rooting for Gonzaga on Monday night. Really just want another game like this one regardless of who wins.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Aug 5, 2015
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A small school organically building a national title contender without the resources of the major programs?

They’re not Duke, UNC, Kansas, or Louisville. I don’t hate them. They’re fun to watch and I like their style. Worse coaches and teams have won a title.


Are they? Id be curious to see how much "less" they have to utilize than the big schools.

They have next to zero recruiting competition on the west coast. They are getting top10 guys. They don't have to play a tough slate of games. They've been a big basketball school for 20+ years now.
 

KingOfBBN

Heisman
Sep 14, 2013
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You are disconnected...no offense. They were cute 20 years ago, they are a major threat now.
Anyone is a threat in college ball especially a one and done tournament. We’ve lost to Auburn, K-State, Indiana, and WVU during Cal’s era. L’s can come from anyone.

We will never play them unless we get to a Final Four and I doubt recruiting is gonna be much of an effect with a school in the Pacific Northwest versus us.
 

HagginHall1999

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Oct 19, 2018
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Anyone is a threat in college ball especially a one and done tournament. We’ve lost to Auburn, K-State, Indiana, and WVU during Cal’s era. L’s can come from anyone.

We will never play them unless we get to a Final Four and I doubt recruiting is gonna be much of an effect with a school in the Pacific Northwest versus us.

They just took a kid who was essentially final two from us....he is from Nebraska. Timme is from Texas. Suggs is from MN.

I am not sure if you think this is the Adam Morrison team or what.
 

jameslee32

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Mar 26, 2009
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UCLA
StartersMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
C. RileyF--7-140-00-128105010314
J. Jaquez Jr.G--6-122-55-72354103219
J. JuzangG--12-183-62-41562204229
T. CampbellG--6-111-34-50117101217
J. BernardG--2-31-20-0044200045
BenchMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
K. NwubaF--0-00-00-0000000000
J. KymanG--0-00-00-0000000000
J. ClarkG--0-00-03-4112000123
D. SingletonG--1-11-10-0123100013
TEAM34-598-1714-21725322141101690
57.6%47.1%66.7%
Gonzaga
StartersMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
D. TimmeF--11-150-13-51342000425
C. KispertF--6-132-81-21454211215
J. SuggsG--6-122-52-20556212316
A. NembhardG--4-91-32-40118102111
J. AyayiG--9-122-32-32462202322
BenchMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
A. WatsonF--0-00-02-4011011232
A. CookG--1-20-10-0011300102
TEAM37-637-2112-20620262583101693
58.7%33.3%60.0%
 
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Look at how important it was for Timme to not foul out. Probably changes the length of the game and the outcome.

UCLA
BenchMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
StartersMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
C. RileyF--7-140-00-128105010314
J. Jaquez Jr.G--6-122-55-72354103219
J. JuzangG--12-183-62-41562204229
T. CampbellG--6-111-34-50117101217
J. BernardG--2-31-20-0044200045
K. NwubaF--0-00-00-0000000000
J. KymanG--0-00-00-0000000000
J. ClarkG--0-00-03-4112000123
D. SingletonG--1-11-10-0123100013
TEAM34-598-1714-21725322141101690
57.6%47.1%66.7%
Gonzaga
BenchMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
StartersMINFG3PTFTOREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTOPFPTS
D. TimmeF--11-150-13-51342000425
C. KispertF--6-132-81-21454211215
J. SuggsG--6-122-52-20556212316
A. NembhardG--4-91-32-40118102111
J. AyayiG--9-122-32-32462202322
A. WatsonF--0-00-02-4011011232
A. CookG--1-20-10-0011300102
TEAM37-637-2112-20620262583101693
58.7%33.3%60.0%
 
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RalphDaltonFan

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Apr 3, 2002
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Love that the two best teams will play for the championship. It rarely happens.

Off the top of my head

2005
2007?
1999
I think they did in '96 but because NCAA doesn't re-seed, it was in Semis and not the Championship game. UK/UMass were best teams in my mind that year.
 

DanStewart

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I don't get all the negativity for Gonzaga. The play the game like it's supposed to be played. They played a killer OOC schedule, as they do every year. There are some good teams, not great, in their conference. Suggs is the first 5* recruit in Gonzaga history. Most of you haters would figuratively give your left nut for Kispert, Timme, Nembhart, or Suggs and they would be favorites.
 
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Ayayi played great from the tip as well.

True. I was more focusing on their weak bench production. Without Timme I don't think they win. His passing ability is unreal and they rely on it quite a bit. Watson is nowhere near ready for that level of play.
 

jameslee32

Heisman
Mar 26, 2009
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True. I was more focusing on their weak bench production. Without Timme I don't think they win. His passing ability is unreal and they rely on it quite a bit. Watson is nowhere near ready for that level of play.
They missed a lot of easy baskets in the first half then let Timme be the closer. If he gets off to a good start on Monday, Baylor could be in trouble.
 
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I don't get all the negativity for Gonzaga. The play the game like it's supposed to be played. They played a killer OOC schedule, as they do every year. There are some good teams, not great, in their conference. Suggs is the first 5* recruit in Gonzaga history. Most of you haters would figuratively give your left nut for Kispert, Timme, Nembhart, or Suggs and they would be favorites.
They are just compensating for Cal and his stall ball leading to the loss in 2015.
 
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Remember before the time started a thread was on here saying would you even watch the tournament with UK being out.

Welp this is exactly why you still watch lol
 

KYCAT78

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May 24, 2006
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I don't get all the negativity for Gonzaga. The play the game like it's supposed to be played. They played a killer OOC schedule, as they do every year. There are some good teams, not great, in their conference. Suggs is the first 5* recruit in Gonzaga history. Most of you haters would figuratively give your left nut for Kispert, Timme, Nembhart, or Suggs and they would be favorites.
I would give my left nut for their Coach, a Coach that appears to care for CBB and the school he works for, not the snake oil salesman we have.
 

TortElvisII

Heisman
May 7, 2010
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First back-to-back first time champions since 2002-2003 (Maryland and Syracuse).
This got me to thinking when was the last back-to-back-to-back first-time champions. That would be 1989 Michigan, 1990 UNLV and 1991 Duke. That only happened one other time 1959 California, 1960 Ohio State and 1961 Cincinnati. The first 7 years each year had a new champion but after that only two groups of three and seven times a group of two of back-to-back new champions.
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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Dec 7, 2006
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Just my imagination or does the Zags offense set. about 154 illegal moving. screens a game ? Its like a rub play in. NFL football, you dont really set a screen or get called for a pick but you intentionally run your man into another player ? I guess its all good if they are not going to call it , but the Zags run two players REAL close together without stopping ... seems like it causes a switch but its not really a screen ?
 

John Henry

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Aug 18, 2007
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Just my imagination or does the Zags offense set. about 154 illegal moving. screens a game ? Its like a rub play in. NFL football, you dont really set a screen or get called for a pick but you intentionally run your man into another player ? I guess its all good if they are not going to call it , but the Zags run two players REAL close together without stopping ... seems like it causes a switch but its not really a screen ?
What ever it is, I like it. I like movement in an offense and plenty of passing. Dribbling around the perimeter is horrible basketball. I hope Calipari is taking notes.
 
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This got me to thinking when was the last back-to-back-to-back first-time champions. That would be 1989 Michigan, 1990 UNLV and 1991 Duke. That only happened one other time 1959 California, 1960 Ohio State and 1961 Cincinnati. The first 7 years each year had a new champion but after that only two groups of three and seven times a group of two of back-to-back new champions.
84-85 Georgetown and Villanova
79-80 Michigan Stare and Louisville