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Pretty comical, but I don't know how you pull off a conspiracy that big
Pretty comical, but I don't know how you pull off a conspiracy that big
National Fixed League
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Ok. So NFL officials, coaches, coordinators, refs and even players are in on it? These are some of the most competitive people on the planet. But yet they do whatever they are told, even intentionally throw pics. Whatever.....I call ********.
Prolly a pretty safe assumption that folks who believe we hijacked our own planes and flew them into our own bldgs, are also the ones who think the NFL is faked. I just don't see how an NFL fix could be legit, it would require me to believe Dak is being told to toss a pick 6, and I just don't buy that for a second.
Not very many of them would have to be in on it. Again, I don’t know how they keep it a secret (there has been leaks btw) but it could literally be anything. We don’t know what we don’t know kind of thing. What we do know is that it’s scripted because it is extremely predictable if you see them tip the cards on any given drive and know what to look for.
I’ll put it this way: The longtime football fan friends that I watch games with in person, point out the keys to look for and predict the outcomes of drives from, are now all in agreement. It’s scripted.
I know how crazy and improbable it sounds, but since I know that I’ve seen it and predicted drives game in and game out, no one on here will change my mind. If anyone ever wants to watch a game and have a beer to see how it works, I’m in Omaha.
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In order for this to work, would you not have to find people who agreed to fail? I mean it would be easy to find people to be the hero, pick 6's, etc, etc....but how do you talk coackes and players into being the zero with this much money at stake? I mean kickers get axed within hours if they miss a game winning kick, or they can keep collecting paychecks if they make it...why would coaches or players all agree to be the zero and get fired and have to move their families or lose that $$$ ????
I would assume that anyone that's in on it would be getting paid in other ways
I see your point but we don’t really know what all paychecks they collect though, do we?
...and nobody has ever confessed to that to the best of my knowledge...and how would that promise work???.... verbal promise, an actual contract? I mean if I have a contract with an NFL team that's some serious guaranteed cash....is anyone going to just voluntarily step away from that based on a handshake to fix a game they are being promised money for in the future?
We know what their NFL contracts are...so how do you talk a guy into tearing that up for a promise to get paid later...and isn't it just a little questionable not a single player has ever confessed to this?
We know the reported amounts and timelines but can anyone really see everything that’s in the contracts? There has been several players but they delete tweets and get shut up. Jalen Ramsey is the most recent that I know of, a couple years ago I believe.
Like OP said, the NFL is an entertainment entity. They have no contractual obligation to deliver completely unscripted sports, that I know of.
I know about his Tweet but I also know he is one of the biggest idiots in the league. I do not find him a trustworthy source...but it was a bad look for sure.
If I'm a OC/QB/Coach and my play gets overridden by the league office, I'd be pissed. And let's be honest, some of the NFL players are not the most intelligent people around, but yet NONE of them have squealed, got pissed, wanted payback, or even accidentally hinted during a PC that it's not their fault they lost a game.
The mob has to be involved then (wink wink). Or they have some sort of microchip in their brain to ignore everything that the league has done. Even ignore the possible $$ that could come to them through a book deal, movie deal or interview as a whistle blower to what the league is up to. But not one person has come forward in the 100 years of the NFL to say it's rigged. Not a single person has blown a whistle, regardless of the outcome. Seems plausible if you ask me.
The mob has to be involved then (wink wink). Or they have some sort of microchip in their brain to ignore everything that the league has done. Even ignore the possible $$ that could come to them through a book deal, movie deal or interview as a whistle blower to what the league is up to. But not one person has come forward in the 100 years of the NFL to say it's rigged. Not a single person has blown a whistle, regardless of the outcome. Seems plausible if you ask me.
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For this to be true, and for a secret of this magnitude to be kept, think about the fear the NFL would have to instill on everyone to go along with this...but eventually somebody always talks or turns states evidence in situations of this magnitude...so how would the NFL show their displeasure of somebody who stepped off the reservation? Would they beat them up, kill them, kidnap their significant other until they retracted? I'm going with no....and it would literally take a combination of what I just typed for this to be kept a secret.
Would Vegas accept bets if this game was rigged? I would think if it's rigged then Vegas would know about it, right? You telling me they let a rigged game play on, in their board? I am going with no..
If the NFL is fixed then how long has it been fixed, and think about the employee's it would take to do this, so do they have a retirement plan? Cause the amount of money we're talking about here nobody is going to work for the committee fixing this for free, do we really think there's a secret organization that pays people to organize this, has a 401K plan, Do they have an HR dept?? ....and just for good measure not a single person who retired form it has ever talked? Even on their death bed??
I think the biggest argument against might be if that the lid was ever blown off of this it would be financially devastating to the league similar to the scandal of the 1919 Black Sox. Many, many billions at stake.
I don't know how many remember the 2019 NFC Championship game between Rams/Saints where the possibly most obvious pass interference play in NFL history wasn't called on a Ram defensive back that would have set the Saints up on or near the Ram's goal line.
Instead of a 6 or 7 point lead with 1:41 to go there was plenty of time left for the Rams to at least get in field goal range to send the game into OT where they eventually won the game.
I do recall how after the game there was some serious consideration among some hard core Saints fans to sue the NFL over how badly they felt the game was officiated, meaning they felt the NFL had the officials call the game in the Rams favor so they would go to the Super Bowl instead of the Saints.
That's when it was brought up several times that the NFL was now classified as a sports entertainment property and was under the same protection as the WWE, Movie, Music and Gaming industries in that you are paying for a product to be entertained by. The owners of said properties don't guarantee that you will always like the result of the product you are viewing, listening or playing so there will be no refunds.
My dad once told me that anything you have to pay to see should be considered entertainment. With all the billions upon billions of dollars invested in sports by the networks, gambling and many others I would find it hard to believe that the officials aren't at least informed before the games are played which way to call particular plays to keep the scoring in line with how the networks and gambling industry want it.
Instead of a 6 or 7 point lead with 1:41 to go there was plenty of time left for the Rams to at least get in field goal range to send the game into OT where they eventually won the game.
I do recall how after the game there was some serious consideration among some hard core Saints fans to sue the NFL over how badly they felt the game was officiated, meaning they felt the NFL had the officials call the game in the Rams favor so they would go to the Super Bowl instead of the Saints.
That's when it was brought up several times that the NFL was now classified as a sports entertainment property and was under the same protection as the WWE, Movie, Music and Gaming industries in that you are paying for a product to be entertained by. The owners of said properties don't guarantee that you will always like the result of the product you are viewing, listening or playing so there will be no refunds.
My dad once told me that anything you have to pay to see should be considered entertainment. With all the billions upon billions of dollars invested in sports by the networks, gambling and many others I would find it hard to believe that the officials aren't at least informed before the games are played which way to call particular plays to keep the scoring in line with how the networks and gambling industry want it.
The problem with your example is I think the NFL would have preferred Brees advancing there...
The gambling benefits from this would be gross amounts of money and we know gambling is heavily tied to the mob, which never went away, they just got smarter. If you consider the amount of money they can make, it almost seems improbable NOT to find a way fix the games and keep it that way. They probably use technology, but I don’t know. The only thing I know is that it happens regularly and it can’t be just the officials like some think.
It doesn’t really have to just be about money though and who will watch Brees or Rodgers. Even if it is, they have to throw in some wins sometimes for every city to stay interested in their team. What is interesting is you can go all the way back to 1970. Every 10 year period on the nose up until now, has one team that has won the Super Bowl exactly 3 times. No more, no less. You can easily look it up, that’s 5 decades straight. What are the odds?
I actually won a lot of money betting the Patriots when they beat the Rams based solely on that information. I believe Robert Woods dropped the game winning touchdown for the Rams.
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So the NFL is fixing games to keep fan bases interested and they decided that letting Brady win a SB every other year on average for 18 years would be a good thing to accomplish that goal? ...and you believe the mob would knowingly let a bettor place a bet that would take money out of their pocket?
No ****, that's why I hardly watch anymore. Used to watch every Sunday all day long. Now I'll watch a game here and there and rarely watch an entire game.
Games don't have to be fixed as the majority of NFL games come down to a few plays here and there. All it takes to completely turn games towards one team is make a couple calls on crucial plays.
People make stupid plays, drop passes, call timeouts when they have none, let routine ground balls go through their legs at 1B, calls get made and missed by refs, all with life changing results. It's human nature to choke at times.
I would not be surprised if a ref, player or coach here or there over the years in the NFL has intentionally tanked a game for money. But to think games are predetermined by NFL officials before games are played is laughable. Too much coverup. Too many greedy people. Too many idiots and loose cannons out there to pull this off year after year.
Very believable that the fix is in here and there. On a grand scale? No I don't believe that. I also don't believe that Katy Hobbs or Joe Biden won their elections. We know how the sausage is made
These threads are great for outing the nutjobs. I suppose you believe in Jewish space lasers too
I'm curious if the people who think the NFL is rigged think the college game is to? ...and i'm serious.
And they still bet on something by the millions that they think is fixed. Now that is insane.
I have gone back and forth on that. Adrian Martinez really had me thinking he was up to some **** the way he played. Frost as well with the complete ******** he would call while coaching. I do lean towards certain big games being fixed like definitely the national championship.
Georgia was actually favored over Bama last year by 2 or 3 points. Georgia had JUST lost to Bama by 17 freaking points. How the hell would anyone favor Georgia?? To lure bettors, that’s the only reason. Lo and behold we know what happened. That tipped me off that Georgia would win that game. I do think Georgia wins again tonight.
Georgia was favored the first time to tbough, so not a shock they were favored a second time as well. I think it would be easier to herd cats than keep college kids quiet about fixing games, we know it's happened with point shaving scandals but I don't think from an organized long term type of tbing it would be possible, at all.
A 17 point win is very decisive, no reason in hell Georgia should've been favored again. That’s why I think college would be infinitely harder. But at the same time, if it’s some kind of tech or crazy **** we don’t know about, it would more easily explain why it doesn’t really get out in the NFL either.
I will say it is A LOT harder for me to spot rigging during college games. In the NFL it is extremely obvious to me. So that’s the other reason I’m unsure about college. I will definitely be looking for it tonight.