Probably with mental issues whom should have never own a gun.
Probably with mental issues whom should have never own a gun.
LOL, but of course if this monster was wearing a MAGA hat. I'm sure you wouldn't make hay about that now would you?
Truth be told abortion is and its not even close. Also was a child drag supporter that murdered them in this terrorist attack. Six times as many conservatives murdered today by a leftist terrorist than Gov or leftist killed on J6.....
I guess her manifesto and answering the call to violence against conservatives put out by leftist shouldnt even be considered right?
she must not have been paying attention when the gun ran away on its own and did this
Like I said, we've discussed this before, so I'll let the posts below speak to some of the ideas I've listed previously.
Honestly man, Ive got mass shooter exhaustion and I know all this is pointless unless Republicans demand change. I'd love to see you guys raise hell with DeSantis for planning to implement permitless open carry and since you're in Georgia, go after Kemp for doing the same. You know we lost Music Midtown last year because of that insane law so there's an economic cost that comes along with that stupidity.
Here's what I'd really like you to do though. Instead of talking about it theoretically, I'd like to see you and the other board conservatives put yourself in the parent's shoes that lost their children and discuss what you'd say and propose if that had been your child today and his teacher and maybe his coach. Would you be discussing AR stands for Armalite or asking other people if they've shot a lot of guns? Your child, his teacher, his coach. What would you then propose?
PS - I see that below your post, the inmates have taken over the asylum, so I'm out for tonight.
I have an 8, & 11yr old in a small private Christian school. (School size nor private/public matters here) This hit home, and I understand what you’re saying in some regards.
This is my idea how to fix this nonsense. We give billions to places like Ukraine, no?…
Arm every single school in the US with armed security guards. Depending on the size of the school will determine the number of guards. Let them all carry true assault rifles, pistols, etc.
I don’t want to hear a single word about the cost.
Timing does not look good at all. Political violence from the left?
Ngô wrote, “Far-left extremists & militant #trans activists are threatening to injure or kill lawmakers in Tennessee as revenge for the state banning the medical transitioning of minors. Their violent threats have surged in recent weeks.”
One Twitter user, @BlackheartSora, who is a self-described “trans girl demon femboy girltwink,” posted a screenshot of a news story about the recent Tennessee legislation, saying, “this is what genocide looks like.”
Another Twitter user, @nihilistigf161, who is “anti-civ,” “post-left,” a “***** nihilist,” and an “indigenous-egoist,” replied saying, “these people forcing youth to detransition have names and addresses.”
Someone else replied, “You let me know where I can get my hands on ricin then we’re in business.”
These Twitter users are actively suggesting violence against lawmakers and potential assassination. Such threats should be taken very seriously by the US federal government.
This disgusting tweet has since been deleted by its author.
However, the very same account has posted other disturbing content that calls for violence from the trans community. On Sunday, the Twitter user posted a quote saying:
The day after these radical extremists called for violence, a trans-28-year-old carried out a mass shooting at a Christian school in Nashville, killing three young students and three teachers.
On Monday, Ngô posted another tweet about violence being encouraged in the trans community by Democrats and the mainstream left, saying,
YESTERDAY: TRANS Radicals Threatened Violence in TN Over Trans and Drag Queen Legislation…TODAY: Trans Person Reportedly Shot and Killed 6 People At Nashville, TN, Christian School
By Patty McMurray Mar. 27, 2023 7:05 pm100 Percent Fed Up reports – Journalist Andy Ngô recently took to Twitter to call out far-left extremists and trans activists for threatening violence against GOP lawmakers who are working to restrict the medical transitioning of minors.
On Sunday, Ngô posted screenshots of a tweet in which a nihilistic trans rights extremist called for violence against Tennessee lawmakers after the state banned the medical transitioning of minors and drag performances where minors may be present.Ngô wrote, “Far-left extremists & militant #trans activists are threatening to injure or kill lawmakers in Tennessee as revenge for the state banning the medical transitioning of minors. Their violent threats have surged in recent weeks.”
One Twitter user, @BlackheartSora, who is a self-described “trans girl demon femboy girltwink,” posted a screenshot of a news story about the recent Tennessee legislation, saying, “this is what genocide looks like.”
Another Twitter user, @nihilistigf161, who is “anti-civ,” “post-left,” a “***** nihilist,” and an “indigenous-egoist,” replied saying, “these people forcing youth to detransition have names and addresses.”
Someone else replied, “You let me know where I can get my hands on ricin then we’re in business.”
These Twitter users are actively suggesting violence against lawmakers and potential assassination. Such threats should be taken very seriously by the US federal government.
This disgusting tweet has since been deleted by its author.
However, the very same account has posted other disturbing content that calls for violence from the trans community. On Sunday, the Twitter user posted a quote saying:
“Many blame ****** for the decline of this society – we take pride in this. Some believe that we intend to shred to bits this civilization and it’s moral fabric – they couldn’t be more accurate. We’re often described as depraved, decadent and revolting – but oh they ain’t seen nothing yet.”The day after these radical extremists called for violence, a trans-28-year-old carried out a mass shooting at a Christian school in Nashville, killing three young students and three teachers.
On Monday, Ngô posted another tweet about violence being encouraged in the trans community by Democrats and the mainstream left, saying,
No, he hasn’t. Neither have any of the other people ITT wanting to ban guns. We go over this every single time a shooting occurs. They simply can’t understand this point. Like, totally incapable of getting it
I’ve made this exact point ad nauseum but it never registers
When you guys are ready to tackle the real underlying problem get back with us
3 out of 2,840+ mass shooters over the last 5 years were trans. None of them were activists and the Colorado shooter only temporarily took on the identity to avoid hate crime charges.
If 3 out of 2840 mass shooters identify as trans, that's ~0.1% whereas there are about 1.4 million people in the US who identify as trans, which is ~0.45%. That means trans people are dramatically under represented in the "mass shooter" category. If it were a representative cross section of the population of the US, there would be twice as many at least. So trans folks are actually LESS likely to shoot a bunch of random people. But continue to push your narrative.
If 3 out of 2840 mass shooters identify as trans, that's ~0.1% whereas there are about 1.4 million people in the US who identify as trans, which is ~0.45%. That means trans people are dramatically under represented in the "mass shooter" category. If it were a representative cross section of the population of the US, there would be twice as many at least. So trans folks are actually LESS likely to shoot a bunch of random people. But continue to push your narrative.
In what regard?
Armed guards at every point of entrance? This is what cures this BS, at least in regards to saving the lives of the kids in schools.
The mental problem subject is another conversation.
For the record, I’m not for any citizen owning automatic weapons. Every weapon being talked about in regards to “ARs”, are semi auto, same as a 9mm pistol… high capacity magazines are the only difference between these semi autos.
What you’re linking is not the same as what I’m suggesting. You’re linking articles referring to officers who showed up, and didn’t engage quickly.
We need armed guards at every point of entrance in each school, who are there at all times during school hours.
What you’re linking is not this. You understand this, correct?
and what would the underlying problem be? mental health? i guess we're the only country in the world that has mental health problems
What is the real argument against having a police officer at every school? Now that we have funneled many times the amount of money required to do this to a foreign country in Ukraine, cost is clearly not an excuse.
So resident libs, what is the reason for opposing an armed police officer at every school in the United States to protect our soft target citizens?
This is of course not mutually exclusive with the mental health problem in the United States. The medical community has taken a clear wrong turn in gender ideology and young children, aka Grooming. Social Media in general is a mental health nightmare and i would like to see that addressed as well.
Nothing against people being trans on their own time. However; 1) no trans ideology before the age of adulthood. No drugs, puberty blockers, top or bottom surgery's until age of 18. Counseling sure, if you aren't old enough to drink and vote then you aren't old enough to cut your d*ck off and take life altering drugs. 2) don't expect others to participate in your false reality. I.e. don't expect anyone to call a man a woman.
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I do understand but armed LE isn't always the answer, nor is it realistic to have one at every entrance, at every school. Parkland had an armed guard and he hid. We should make it much, much harder to acquire guns in the first place but in particular any automatic, semi-automatic or modification that can turn a gun into one.
Agree. One at every point of entrance in each school, imo.
And you’re correct… cost is zero excuse.
Just two off the top of my head:
1. Who's gonna pay for it? (Conservative talking point)
2. Plenty of schools that had mass shootings had armed security guards.
Unless you plan to turn schools into prisons with fences, armed guards at every corner, etc you could just do the same thing that every other first world nation does to prevent mass school shootings and address the REAL problem - Guns.
1. Who's gonna pay for it? (Conservative talking point)
2. Plenty of schools that had mass shootings had armed security guards.
Unless you plan to turn schools into prisons with fences, armed guards at every corner, etc you could just do the same thing that every other first world nation does to prevent mass school shootings and address the REAL problem - Guns.
It’s completely realistic.. and please tell me why you say it’s not. Cost? Nope…
Parkland didn’t have an armed guard at every point of entrance.
If we want to save the lives of US children in schools, this will do just that, and immediately.
Imagine the US spending the Ukraine money on saving our own children in our own schools. Cost is a non factor.
If every school has armed guards at every point of entrance, School mass shootings would be no more.
FYI, the poster you're responding to just broke his vow not to post for a year after losing a bet to NYTiger. At least you kept your end of the bargain when you lost. Just sayin...
Oh i have no issue with spending the money. Bitching about spending is a conservative talking point, i'm just enjoying the about-face.
The irony is that conservatives would rather spend more government money (something they allegedly hate doing) instead of doing what every other first world nation has done which would be much cheaper - implement stricter gun laws.
And I have no issue strengthening gun laws. There’s many ideas out there which are very reasonable.
Guns aren't the real problem and are never going away, even if outlawed, because of the lack of trust in our government. The citizens are watching and they don't like what they see and will refuse to be disarmed. So we can talk about that fantasy all the democrats want, but it will never happen. It will never happen because they are needed to keep a crooked government in check.
1) To address your point about cost, that is no longer an excuse after the amount of money we are spending on FOREIGN policy. The governments first and foremost duty is to protect the homeland and its citizens. In my mind an even higher duty of protection is owed to those young and old as they cannot defend themselves.
2) Agree. We will never stop mass destruction events because there is evil in this world. Just like the Wisconsin Parade murders a weapon will always be available. Take the guns away and evil goes to knifes, cars, planes, trains etc. However, an armed guard will significantly increase the defense of a school and give the citizens a fighting chance. Do something or do nothing?
Saying that adding an armed officer to every school will make it like a prison is hyperbole. I have 4 kids and drop them off at 3 different schools in the morning. I see the armed guard every morning helping out with traffic, role modeling for the kids etc. There is much more benefit they can give than just security.
Guns may be a PART of the problem, but banning or outlawing guns is NOT a part of the answer. You can thank dishonest politicians and government for that.
I agree, i don't think it's a monolith - i'd just like to see us do SOMETHING beyond talk about it for a week and then ignore it once the next shiny object gets reported on
I don't recall saying i wanted to ban/outlaw guns itt. I've always thought that only double barrel shotguns, bolt action rifles, revolver pistols should be legal, and everything else should be exclusive to LEOs. I don't think that will ever happen, but it's my personal hope.
I don't think adding additional security to schools will turn it into a prison, it was a hyperbolic statement about the natural progression of this. As well as what some GOP politicians/talking heads have said - to essentially turn schools into mini-fortresses.
The latest report coming out from Uvalde that the police didn't want to breach the room because the shooter had "a military style rifle" - similar to what they carry - and they were afraid they'd get shot/killed is absurd. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/20/uvalde-shooting-police-ar-15/
When the cops are frightened to do their job because the shooter has a similar weapon to them, that's a problem.
I couldn't care less if you post or not; he even offered you an alternative to not posting for a year but you chose not to. Just pointing out that you're not a man of your word.
What good do you feel "SOMETHING" would be? I prefer doing the right thing. The challenge is that these shootings are not the problem. We are the problem. Our toxic, unhinged, sick society is the problem. I think where all the usual disagreement comes in when one side says society is sick and because of that we must greatly increase regulation of guns. The other side says society is sick and we must work to heal society.
Our church and our school are armed and prepared. I am thankful for that. I also take comfort knowing so many around me are armed with concealed weapons. I feel that is the best method because my view is if we remove guns these sickos will find something else to use which may be even more destructive. I don't believe we can stop this without addressing our cultural decay. I know many disagree with this. It's just my opinion.
But I can also say it would help if we stop attacking each other and at least concede almost NO ONE wants to see these events continue.