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mapcatfan said:
Not good news to me. Like others, I prefer to see it rotate. Even though New Orleans is quite a trek for many UK fans, I enjoy it.

As far as Atlanta, it’s pretty centrally located, and being able to secure tickets was never a problem.

Nashville really limits the amount of UK fans that get in. Can you imagine how difficult it will be if the SEC continues to field much stronger teams like this year? Even if you base it on that alone, it makes a long term contract seem short-sighted. The tons of UK fans that make the SEC tourney a Cats party will be hurt the most, imo.
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Exactly.

For UK fans without much money, this may be a negative. To the other 13 member institutions, having it in Nashville is fantastic. Fun city, centrally located, NOT Atlanta (who most people hate as a city), great bar scene, perfect sized venue for viewing games (17k plus), etc.

I am already excited about this year's tournament.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
Exactly.

For UK fans without much money, this may be a negative. To the other 13 member institutions, having it in Nashville is fantastic. Fun city, centrally located, NOT Atlanta (who most people hate as a city), great bar scene, perfect sized venue for viewing games (17k plus), etc.

I am already excited about this year's tournament.
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"Centrally located?"

 
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mktmaker said:
What is your reasoning?

Atlanta is good enough to host the Super Bowl in February and all SEC Football championships.

It has hosted summer Olympics, Super Bowls, World Series, NBA All-Star games, MLB All-Star games, NCAA Final Fours, heavyweight boxing championships....should I continue?
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It's a horrible place to visit with bumper to bumper traffic at all hours of the day, 7 days a week. Nobody enjoys going there and most want to avoid going there like the plague. Outside of the UK fans that don't have much money enjoying the SEC Tourney there due to an overabundance of seats (Isn't the Dome gone?), most prefer Nashville over the Atl.

Should I go on?
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
It's a horrible place to visit with bumper to bumper traffic at all hours of the day, 7 days a week. Nobody enjoys going there and most want to avoid going there like the plague. Outside of the UK fans that don't have much money enjoying the SEC Tourney there due to an overabundance of seats (Isn't the Dome gone?), most prefer Nashville over the Atl.

Should I go on?
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You should go on...if you want to make a compelling case.

"Nobody enjoys going there" ???

I forgot that you apparently know more than the NFL, MLB, NBA, SEC, and the International Olympic committee.
 
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mktmaker said:
You should go on...if you want to make a compelling case.

"Nobody enjoys going there" ???

I forgot that you apparently know more than the NFL, MLB, NBA, SEC, and the International Olympic committee.
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I'm talking about humans, not events.

People don't enjoy going to Atlanta. I know thousands of them (humans), and everybody I know hates that place.

Do you not know people that hate going to the Atl?
 
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I live in the Nashville area if you want a cheaper room just get one in the suburbs it's that simple. The city is continuing to build hotels and the inventory should be available. I love hotwire you can find great hotels that are reasonably priced.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
107 people moving there daily. Mostly from NYC and other large cities. Turns out they prefer where they came from enough that tons of mediocre over priced bars and restaurants popped up to suit them.

The honky tonk and southern themed restaurants are on their way out except Broadway. Hotels are as expensive as anywhere in the world probably due to low inventory and rising real estate.

It's just a matter of taste. Personally if I want a large metro experience and prices, I go to one. Nashville turned into a rip off of a metro experience but with exorbitant prices. And it all happened over the course of about two years, it seems

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Well, the Nashville area is a great place to live and raise a family. I feel for y’all that have to get hotel rooms here though. They are pricey.

By the way, the number of people moving to the area dropped under 100 in 2017 for the first time since 2011. It’s definitely a lot, though.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
Atlanta is more centrally located for SEC schools than Nashville?

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Distance from Nashville

Kentucky 214
Tennessee 180
Vanderbilt 0
South Carolina 442
Georgia 308
Florida 584
Missouri 432
Alabama 247
Auburn 301
Ole Miss 262
Miss St 266
Arkansas 527
LSU 589
A&M 762

Total miles is 5,114 Average distance 365

Distance from Atlanta

Kentucky 382
Tennessee 214
Vanderbilt 250
South Carolina 215
Georgia 72
Florida 335
Missouri 676
Alabama 201
Auburn 108
Ole Miss 331
Miss St 284
Arkansas 702
LSU 527
A&M 822

Total miles 5,119 Average distance 366

So it is basically the same exact distance. Vanderbilt being in Nashville skews the numbers as well or it would be more in Atlanta's favor. It ended up being closer to Nashville for 7 schools and closer to Atlanta for the other 7. So with all things considered, Atlanta would be better due to prices and ticket quantities. I think you are just biased because it is in your school's hometown.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
I'm talking about humans, not events.

People don't enjoy going to Atlanta. I know thousands of them (humans), and everybody I know hates that place.

Do you not know people that hate going to the Atl?
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Consider me among those who dislikes going to Atlanta. And I have to go often. I am happy the SECT will not be among the reasons.
Many years ago it was a fun place for nightlife. But the buckhead bar scene is gone and the remaining options are far from great.
The traffic and parking are horrendous.
The city is dirty and the people seem less friendly.
 
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KyCatFan said:
Distance from Nashville

Kentucky 214
Tennessee 180
Vanderbilt 0
South Carolina 442
Georgia 308
Florida 584
Missouri 432
Alabama 247
Auburn 301
Ole Miss 262
Miss St 266
Arkansas 527
LSU 589
A&M 762

Total miles is 5,114 Average distance 365

Distance from Atlanta

Kentucky 382
Tennessee 214
Vanderbilt 250
South Carolina 215
Georgia 72
Florida 335
Missouri 676
Alabama 201
Auburn 108
Ole Miss 331
Miss St 284
Arkansas 702
LSU 527
A&M 822

Total miles 5,119 Average distance 366

So it is basically the same exact distance. Vanderbilt being in Nashville skews the numbers as well or it would be more in Atlanta's favor. It ended up being closer to Nashville for 7 schools and closer to Atlanta for the other 7. So with all things considered, Atlanta would be better due to prices and ticket quantities. I think you are just biased because it is in your school's hometown.
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Thanks for the research. I may be being biased but have talked to a lot of people who love the SECt being here. The SEC clearly agrees and as mentioned, everybody other than financially challenged UK fans (which I get because tickets aren’t cheap) want the tournament I. Nashville.

I’m already trying to figure out how to get tickets for
March, it’s definitely tough! That said, I’ll be there!
 
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My opinion of not giving it to Nashville every year is purely based on availability of tickets. Location isn’t the problem. I live in Louisville, so that part is great.

I’ve been a season ticket holder for over a decade, but I have trouble getting them when it’s held in Nashville. I have decent uppers at Rupp. But since I’m not a lower level big-time donor, it’s tough to secure them. And I do have several points accumulated.

So........that generally leaves ticket brokers/scalpers. I’m not willling to pay an exorbitant price for scalped tickets to the SEC tourney. It’s a really fun time, but I’d rather go to the NCAA, especially if we make it to the regional semi-final and final games. Already have them for the YUM Center this spring! Hoping our record is good enough for us to be there. :grimace:
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
Thanks for the research. I may be being biased but have talked to a lot of people who love the SECt being here. The SEC clearly agrees and as mentioned, everybody other than financially challenged UK fans (which I get because tickets aren’t cheap) want the tournament I. Nashville.

I’m already trying to figure out how to get tickets for
March, it’s definitely tough! That said, I’ll be there!
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It's more about the pricing of the hotels and the availability of tickets. Tickets are easy to come by in Atlanta from cheap seats to expensive ones. I just did a search and hotels in Nashville run 2 to 3 times as much as they do in Atlanta. For a 4 day stay it is in the neighborhood of $1,000+ for an average priced hotel. Atlanta is more like $500.

Then throw in tickets and going to Nashville probably sets a family back $1,500-$2,000. You probably could get away with $1,000 or less in Atlanta. It ends up hurting attendance at our first weekend in the NCAA Tournament because of those prices and many people can't afford to turn right around and take another trip like that.
 
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KyCatFan said:
It's more about the pricing of the hotels and the availability of tickets. Tickets are easy to come by in Atlanta from cheap seats to expensive ones. I just did a search and hotels in Nashville run 2 to 3 times as much as they do in Atlanta. For a 4 day stay it is in the neighborhood of $1,000+ for an average priced hotel. Atlanta is more like $500.

Then throw in tickets and going to Nashville probably sets a family back $1,500-$2,000. You probably could get away with $1,000 or less in Atlanta. It ends up hurting attendance at our first weekend in the NCAA Tournament because of those prices and many people can't afford to turn right around and take another trip like that.
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I get it, but you have to remember there are 13 other SEC teams and everybody else likes it in Nashville. I think a lot of UK fans like it in Nashville too.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
It's a horrible place to visit with bumper to bumper traffic at all hours of the day, 7 days a week. Nobody enjoys going there and most want to avoid going there like the plague. Outside of the UK fans that don't have much money enjoying the SEC Tourney there due to an overabundance of seats (Isn't the Dome gone?), most prefer Nashville over the Atl.

Should I go on?
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You should go on without making up BS.
 
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mapcatfan said:
My opinion of not giving it to Nashville every year is purely based on availability of tickets. Location isn’t the problem. I live in Louisville, so that part is great.

I’ve been a season ticket holder for over a decade, but I have trouble getting them when it’s held in Nashville. I have decent uppers at Rupp. But since I’m not a lower level big-time donor, it’s tough to secure them. And I do have several points accumulated.

So........that generally leaves ticket brokers/scalpers. I’m not willling to pay an exorbitant price for scalped tickets to the SEC tourney. It’s a really fun time, but I’d rather go to the NCAA, especially if we make it to the regional semi-final and final games. Already have them for the YUM Center this spring! Hoping our record is good enough for us to be there. :grimace:
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That's the real killer. The city is still ok to me despite the changes. The ticket situation is just awful
 
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That's the real killer. The city is still ok to me despite the changes. The ticket situation is just awful
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And like I said, it’s only going to get worse if the SEC remains as tough as it looks to be this year. Those schools are going to use their allotments. Scalping will be worse than it is now.

Also, it will no longer be the giant home crowd advantage for UK that it has always been. I’m guessing other SEC fans will be good with that.:)
 
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mapcatfan said:
And like I said, it’s only going to get worse if the SEC remains as tough as it looks to be this year. Those schools are going to use their allotments. Scalping will be worse than it is now.

Also, it will no longer be the giant home crowd advantage for UK that it has always been. I’m guessing other SEC fans will be good with that.:)
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Bruh, UK will always have the biggest crowds in hoops. Fact.
 
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Everyone keeps saying Atlanta, but has Mercedes-Benz Stadium even hosted a basketball game yet? Can they do the half stadium configuration?

It is financial. Bridgestone sells out immediately. The SEC can get out of the ticket business. At the Dome, it was never truly sold out (even though it holds more people).
 
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I'm guessing all the other 13 SEC cities/towns don't need the financial revenue so they were satisfied with the decision.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
Weren't willing to pony up the cash. Nashville paid an insane amount to buy a year from St Louis (iirc).
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My understanding of that was it was a one year thing due to them joining the SEC. aTm and Mizzou both got a year of it. If I'm correct, money has nothing to do with rotation.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
Link to where Nashville paid an insane amount of money for SEC Tourney?
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There is no link detailing the financial arrangement. I guess it requires an foia request. I saw it in discussion with the previous agreements to hold it there.

It ain't free and it ain't cheap. As I posted above the 2017 NCAA tournament had a 21 million dollar economic impact on the city.

Also you dodged my previous question about you working for the city of Nashville or it's tourism commission
 
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I couldn't find anything on it quickly. So I may be wrong.

But there is money involved. Saw 2017 sec tournament had 21 million in economic impact for Nashville.
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Meanwhile in Louisville we have a new arena that the Arena Authority is struggling to pay for and we dont even bid on events like the SEC Tournament. The corrupt management of the Yum Center is only interested on lining UL's pockets since they're all still a bunch of UL cronys.
 
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Deli owl said:
Yes the economic impact for city is huge. That's why i'm not sure why the other schools agreed to this.
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Holy lol...

Are you trying to imply that the other 13 *schools would have a problem with a *city’s financial gain from hosting the SEC tournament?

Which school has ties to a city that would have an issue with Nashville making money off of hosting?

Athens? Oxford, Starkville, College Station, Gainesville, Knoxville, Lexington, Columbia’s, Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Fayetteville?

I need an explanation if possible.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
There is no link detailing the financial arrangement. I guess it requires an foia request. I saw it in discussion with the previous agreements to hold it there.

It ain't free and it ain't cheap. As I posted above the 2017 NCAA tournament had a 21 million dollar economic impact on the city.

Also you dodged my previous question about you working for the city of Nashville or it's tourism commission
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I do not work for the city of Nashville or it’s tourism commission.
 
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Friedas_Boss said:
Holy lol...

Are you trying to imply that the other 13 *schools would have a problem with a *city’s financial gain from hosting the SEC tournament?

Which school has ties to a city that would have an issue with Nashville making money off of hosting?

Athens? Oxford, Starkville, College Station, Gainesville, Knoxville, Lexington, Columbia’s, Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Fayetteville?

I need an explanation if possible.
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Still weird that we have two “Columbia’s” as conference cities
 
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