Must Win Tomorrow Or Win the Conf Tourney

ashVID

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Hope I'm wrong but I don't think we get in unless with win the conference regular season or win the conference tournament (Auto). If we lose tomorrow, I think even a loss in the finals will have us on the outside of the bubble. Our record down the stretch, lack of quality wins and the glaring home loss to SEOSU makes it too easy for a committee who likely doesn't want us in anyway, to keep us out. In all our numbers we are leaving out SEOSU, that is not a factor in RPI but it WILL be a factor for selection.

Either way, I'll take it. How many years would we have taken ONE game to get us in? Happy to be here, gonna suck to miss out so... let's win this tomorrow!



ash =o)
 

lawpoke87

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Solid post. Things would need to break our way in a few conference tourneys and we beat Cincy in the semis for us to get an at-large assuming we lose tomorrow.

Texas is now most likely in.

Indiana likely out without a win in the Big10 tourney.
 

mehwhocares

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We'll have a better argument than every team that finishes after Tulsa in the conference standings. That said, to make that argument hold water, we'll need to make the FINALS. I don't think it's this black and white. I've never thought that it would be this black and white.
 

mcane

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would really rather not worry or experience the anxiety of watching the bracket unfold next Sunday. The NIT even with the number 1 seed will not seem very exciting.
 

ashVID

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YB, argument yes but looking at history, they've often left the #2 team and taken #3 or #4. We cannot complain, we control our destiny. Win in 90 minutes and we can argue about seeding ;)



ash =o)
 

mehwhocares

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Originally posted by ashVID:
YB, argument yes but looking at history, they've often left the #2 team and taken #3 or #4. We cannot complain, we control our destiny. Win in 90 minutes and we can argue about seeding ;)



ash =o)
Totally agree here. It'll be a tall task, but it's a task that can be done.
 

texcane1982

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Originally posted by youngblood223:
We'll have a better argument than every team that finishes after Tulsa in the conference standings. That said, to make that argument hold water, we'll need to make the FINALS. I don't think it's this black and white. I've never thought that it would be this black and white.









TU has absolutely no argument. The committee pays close attention to the entire body of work and the results of the last 10 games. TU fails in both regards. 5-5 OOC, no top 50 RPI wins, 6-4 in final 10 games, only RPI top 50 wins were vs Temple, which is a glaring red flag, have to beat multiple RPI top 50, not the same one twice. You have to beat Cincinnati or SMU at least once when your OOC resulted in no big wins. The committee cares more about big wins vs bad losses, Cincinnati has many big wins despite losing to ECU and Tulane, and Temple beat Kansas, beat UCONN in Storrs, and beat Cincinnati.


SMU, Cincy, and Temple are the only at larges coming from the AAC, and if Temple gets knocked off by Memphis in the quarterfinals the AAC becomes a 2 bid league.


TX





This post was edited on 3/8 4:27 PM by texcane1982
 

mehwhocares

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Originally posted by texcane1982:
Originally posted by youngblood223:
We'll have a better argument than every team that finishes after Tulsa in the conference standings. That said, to make that argument hold water, we'll need to make the FINALS. I don't think it's this black and white. I've never thought that it would be this black and white.







TU has absolutely no argument. The committee pays close attention to the entire body of work and the results of the last 10 games. TU fails in both regards. 5-5 OOC, no top 50 RPI wins, 6-4 in final 10 games, only RPI top 50 wins were vs Temple, which is a glaring red flag. You have to beat Cincinnati or SMU at least once when your OOC resulted in no big wins. The committee cares more about big wins vs bad losses, Cincinnati has many big wins despite losing to ECU and Tulane, and Temple beat Kansas, beat UCONN in Storrs, and beat Cincinnati.


SMU, Cincy, and Temple are the only at larges coming from the AAC, and if Temple gets knocked off by Memphis in the quarterfinals the AAC becomes a 2 bid league.


TX




This post was edited on 3/8 4:26 PM by texcane1982
I don't agree with you. That simple.
 

Tu Geo

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Originally posted by ashVID:
YB, argument yes but looking at history, they've often left the #2 team and taken #3 or #4. We cannot complain, we control our destiny. Win in 90 minutes and we can argue about seeding ;)



ash =o)
It has happened for sure but I wouldn't use the word "often".

GO TU!!!!
 

Tu Geo

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Originally posted by ashVID:
Almost every year would qualify as often in my mind ;)
You're saying that the B-10, ACC , B-12, P-12, A-10, SEC, AAC, Big East, etc. second place team is left out over lower ranked teams.

The second place team? I need examples.

Every year?

Boy I really don't think so. I could be wrong, every year?


GO TU!!!
 
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