Mullen, The Great Orator

Jeffreauxdawg

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I don't miss this garbled crap spewing from his mouth...

https://deadspin.com/dan-mullens-no-weapons-policy-allows-florida-players-1828071212

Here is his clear explanation:

It’s a no-weapons policy in certain situations of how to be educated to not have (issues)...No weapons, that’s easy to remember. If I write out all the different (scenarios)—no weapons in these situations or have a weapon for a hunting situation, if I’m doing this, I store it at this location, I keep it here, I have gun safety rules and knowledge—that’s not a quick catch to them to register in their mind. Does that make sense?

I may have buried the lead, but I am not here to start another argument about guns... Just pointing out Dan's gibberish.
 

bulldogbaja

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"Florida receiver Kadarius Toney was found with a loaded AR-15 rifle in the back seat of his car during a traffic stop last week. Gainesville police did not cite Toney because the weapon was not concealed and was not "on or about" him, which would have violated the state's open-carry law.
Toney told officers he needed the weapon for protection from locals because "they be coming after us."
 

Msubulldogfan1

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"Florida receiver Kadarius Toney was found with a loaded AR-15 rifle in the back seat of his car during a traffic stop last week. Gainesville police did not cite Toney because the weapon was not concealed and was not "on or about" him, which would have violated the state's open-carry law.
Toney told officers he needed the weapon for protection from locals because "they be coming after us."

“They be coming after us” lol

I woulda said “who be coming after you?”
 

Go Budaw

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No way this policy could end poorly at the same university that gave us Aaron Hernandez.
 

josebrown

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"Florida receiver Kadarius Toney was found with a loaded AR-15 rifle in the back seat of his car during a traffic stop last week. Gainesville police did not cite Toney because the weapon was not concealed and was not "on or about" him, which would have violated the state's open-carry law.
Toney told officers he needed the weapon for protection from locals because "they be coming after us."

Dont forget the incident only a month prior to this traffic stop the one witness and university reported that the same receiver was running around with an air soft AR-15 that he'd painted the orange muzzle black on. There ain't many football players dumb enough to run around with an air soft rifle in the open. Especially when there is nefarious activities transpiring.
 

Shmuley

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Looks like Don Clownshoes and his “no guns unless dey be comin’ afta yoo” policy has made the national news cycle.

That’s a shame.
 

Xenomorph

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Playing Devil's Advocate.. If I sign scholarship papers to a D1 school, am I signing away my 2nd Amendment rights?
 

Seinfeld

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I probably shouldn’t be laughing, but reading that quote was a great way to start my morning
 

Go Budaw

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Playing Devil's Advocate.. If I sign scholarship papers to a D1 school, am I signing away my 2nd Amendment rights?

Nope. Your Second Amendment rights are still there. The Second Amendment protects you from persecution or confiscation from the legal system only. You are still subject to whatever restrictions enforced by any 3rd party organization in which you are a voluntary member (including a college / university, a football team, a church, or whatever).
 

Swede39

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Unless he's changed it, which I doubt he has, it's not only a policy he has, it's one of his five core values. After five years under him though, I saw why the core values were somewhat vague. Let's just say if you were a valuable player and you violated one of the core values, consequences from him usually landed in your favor.
 

Xenomorph

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I agree. So when I sign a scholarship with a D1 program am I saying I will give up ownership of my firearms and I will not travel in a vehicle containing a firearm... even times when it is legal?
 

Shmuley

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This is where it gets murky. You have the right to keep and bear arms. You may not have a "right" to keep and bear an athletic scholarship. The benefits of an athletic scholarship, I suspect, may be "infringed" with lots of conditions (don't rape and pillage; don't take illicit drugs or PEDs; don't suck; [at Bama] don't be a 4 star if a 5 star is available). The right to keep and bear arms "may not be infringed." At some point the federal courts will likely have to determine whether a NCAA member institution's athletic scholarship terms and conditions constitutes (1) state action (don't forget that there are private NCAA member institutions); and (2) if so, whether those terms and conditions vis-a-vis gun possession constitutes a prohibited infringement under the 2nd amendment. I could see that case being filed at some point and I could see it getting priority treatment for scheduling purposes since scholly's are one year deals.
 

Go Budaw

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I agree. So when I sign a scholarship with a D1 program am I saying I will give up ownership of my firearms and I will not travel in a vehicle containing a firearm... even times when it is legal?

Depends on if that is the policy of whatever coach you choose to play for. I don’t know that any coach in America is that rigid, though. Most mirror the policy of the university itself. In MSU’s case, that policy is no guns on campus, anywhere, with the consequence of expulsion. That means not in your residence, car, or on your person. Given that at least 50% of athletes live on campus (give or take), that basically means they can have their guns when they go home for the holidays or off weekends, because there is really no practical way to have one while school is in session. And that isn’t specific to football players either. That applies to all students that live on campus, and even to students who live off campus unless their gun either never leaves their residence or never travels onto or even through campus property on their person or vehicle.

Regardless, no 2nd Amendment rights are being infringed any more so than someone firing you from your job for bringing a gun to work. College scholarships, enrollment as a student, employment, and all other forms of voluntary membership or participation in an activity are not held accountable by the 2nd Amendment.
 
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MSUDawgFan86

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I don't miss this garbled crap spewing from his mouth...

https://deadspin.com/dan-mullens-no-weapons-policy-allows-florida-players-1828071212

Here is his clear explanation:

It’s a no-weapons policy in certain situations of how to be educated to not have (issues)...No weapons, that’s easy to remember. If I write out all the different (scenarios)—no weapons in these situations or have a weapon for a hunting situation, if I’m doing this, I store it at this location, I keep it here, I have gun safety rules and knowledge—that’s not a quick catch to them to register in their mind. Does that make sense?

I may have buried the lead, but I am not here to start another argument about guns... Just pointing out Dan's gibberish.

What the 17? Thats a big word salad. The Goofy hunchback needs to take a speech class. I’m so glad that dumb 17er left.
 
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