Mullen or Sherrill?

[ColoradoDawg]

Who takes the reigns as best MSU coach?

Two days ago I would of said Mullen. Now, I'm not so sure.

Jackie was great coach until the wheels fell off. He still leads in all-time wins and brought us a championship.

2014 was a special season and being ranked #1 was amazing, but at the end of season how much is that really worth?

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Mullen not close. Only argument for Sherrill is he won the SECW, but 6-2 and 5-3 don't win the SECW these days and the competition was not as strong.

 

[Dawgfan61]

Sherrill

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Who is more popular in Oxford, Brewer or Tuberville? There’s your answer.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I’m gonna have to go the Kang. Has more wins and took us to the SECCG.

 

[johnson86-1]

Mullen not close. Only argument for Sherrill is he won the SECW, but 6-2 and 5-3 don't win the SECW these days and the competition was not as strong.

That cuts both ways though. Sherrill didn't have nearly the advantage over non-Power 5 schools that Mullen did. Mullen and Sherrill both had their strengths. Even though Mullen took over a program that looked superficially like ****, Crooms actually left him 90% of the pieces needed to make a good team. Mullen did a fantastic job of developing QBs and did a bad job of recruiting to fill the significant holes that Croom did leave as far as OL and FS. Mullen took those advantages and was incredibly consistent.

Sherrill took over a program that didn't have nearly the advantages over Non-power 5 teams and had a very slightly higher peak, but didn't have nearly the consistency.

Sherrill is and should be the face of our program going forward because he didn't leave and that's a tie breaker over mostly comparable resumes.

 

[Indndawg]

Kang has more great wins and head scratching loses.
Beat Bama 2x
Beat Tejas 2x
Beat Clem'son 1x
Beat Barn 3-4x

 

[was21]

Mullen...hands down

 

[patdog]

Mullen not close.

This.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

Being #1 was worth a lot. Come on. This will pass, but under Dan Mullen we consistently competed.

Look, I love JWS as much as anyone, but outside of a few years that we were busting heads, there was a lot of frustrating years there also. A few years of absolute suckitude and some ****** offenses.

I have come to enjoy the forward pass and crossing the goal before we fall. It's awesome.

 

[tatedog]

Jackie will always have a place in my heart. Mullen was a successful employee.

 

[L4Dawg]

Allyn McKeen . 69-19-3 at MSU, 26-16-2 in the SEC. He has our lone SEC Title.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

He has a crazy amount of losses-75!!

And he lost a ton of games he shouldn't have.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

He has a crazy amount of losses-75!!

And he lost a ton of games he shouldn't have.

How many of those came in the sanctioned years? You could say he brought that on himself or OM brought it on him, but he has the 3 year stretch wining 8, 10, 8, and he didn’t have the extra gimmie win schools have now.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Allyn McKeen . 69-19-3 at MSU, 26-16-2 in the SEC. He has our lone SEC Title.

Ditto Dilly Dilly

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Won SECW / Never won SECW
7-5 Egg Bowl / 5-4 Egg Bowl
4 Bama wins / 0 Bama wins
#1 Defense / #1 Team (briefly)
Tie or Sweater / Shoe Swag
6 Bowl games / 8 Bowl games
Never considered another HC job / Floated his name out every November
NCAA Investigation / No NCAA Investigation
#1 All Time Wins / #2 All Time Wins
6 losing seasons / 2 losing seasons

I'll give Mullen the edge...but close.

 

[kired]

If you could take away the last 3 seasons of Sherrill, he would easily be considered the best of those two.

He won roughly 50% of his SEC games over the first 10 years (there's a tie & a forfeit in there somewhere). Mullen is 33-39, with only one season better than 4-4 in the SEC.

Sherrill was definitely better before it all fell apart. But if you also consider the whole body of work, you'd have to say Mullen was better because he never let us slip to the very bottom like we did from 2001 - 2003. I was on campus during those years and it was arguably worse than the Croom years... getting beat by 20-30 points every single week.

 

[Mayor of Little London]

Jackie will always have a place in my heart. Mullen was a successful employee.

This x 1,000

 

[Cow College]

Won SECW / Never won SECW
7-5 Egg Bowl / 5-4 Egg Bowl
4 Bama wins / 0 Bama wins
#1 Defense / #1 Team (briefly)
Tie or Sweater / Shoe Swag
6 Bowl games / 8 Bowl games
Never considered another HC job / Floated his name out every November
NCAA Investigation / No NCAA Investigation
#1 All Time Wins / #2 All Time Wins
6 losing seasons / 2 losing seasons

I'll give Mullen the edge...but close.

Oh the Kang had his name floated for a couple jobs while he was here. Mainly Alabama one year. Also one has a significantly higher winning percentage. Sherrill was #1 in wins but also losses. He was just here a long time

 

[The Peeper]

Rephrase the question, "Who will forever be welcomed back?"

 

[maroonmania]

Mullen not close. Only argument for Sherrill is he won the SECW, but 6-2 and 5-3 don't win the SECW these days and the competition was not as strong.

Sherrill had MANY more obstacles to overcome in having a successful football program. For one, he worked under penny-pincher Larry Templeton, had a much lower budget on everything relative to facilities and recruiting and a significantly smaller fanbase to support him than what we have now. The only advantage Sherrill ever had over Mullen was no Saban in the league at that time.

 

[TNT.sixpack]

Mullen......BUT.... I always felt confident with us when Sherrill was coach. I never was super confident with Mullen as coach. I loved the way that Sherrill quietly prepared and he seldom acted cocky. Bottom line, he never oversold us nor our team. Dan did that a lot. While I understand a lot folks probably like that confidence, I for one, did not. Too often it came across as arrogant and sometimes, downright stupid like he was trying to convince me we were better than we actually were. I just felt like he was pandering to us like we're a bunch of 2 year olds.

 

[PBRME]

Sherrill. More wins. SEC West title.

 

[HotMop]

Like UAB?

 

[VegasDawg13]

Rephrase the question, "Who will forever be welcomed back?"

Both questions have equally obvious, yet different, answers.