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dave5164

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If your going to review the tape from tonight and last game you might as well go back to all of last year and all of this year. This has been Mulder since he arrived in Lexington last year and there are so many games that in 9 to 11 minutes of playing time Mulder has nearly double digit scoring because his ability to knock down the threes, his rebounding, and his defense and its all been good in the little bit of playing time Mulder is in the game. I haven't understood why Mulder is in the doghouse of Coach Cal but something is wrong in playing time. I would play him 20-25 minutes instead of Briscoe. He hits the threes, hits outside shots, drives to basket, nice assist man too, and decent defense. He would average 15-20 points on another SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 team because of his 45-50% hitting the Threes. He had 9 points Saturday hitting 3/6 from 3's and played decent defense and comes in to tonight's game and goes 9 minutes and hits a three and has 3 rebounds, and a steal in just 9 minutes and he then is taken out remainder of game. Just don't understand his playing time.
 

mash_24

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Hey looky , you managed to focus on one bad thing to base an argument while ignoring anything else . Just like focusing on three pointers , you're as one dimensional as Mulder . You can pine for him to play but the better player is going to get minutes , that's life .

What are all these dimensions that make Briscoe so fantastic? He's a one trick pony who a lot of teams have figured out. He should play. Just not 30 minutes a game.
 

kybassfan

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We are not playing well. Do you just stand pat and let the chips fall where they may which is likely an early exit? Or try something else?

Do you actually know who the coach is? Dude, we're the runway and there ain't no aborting this takeoff. No changing the engine at this point. He'll patch what he can and move on.

Don't like it, jump. This late, something else is nothing.
 
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morgousky

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Mulder is 3rd on the team in Pts per 40 mins.

Ahead of Fox, Monk and Hawkins in Rebs per 40 mins and Blocks per 40 mins.

Has a better Turnover margin per 40 mins than Fox and Monk.

Lastly, his PER (Player Efficiency Rating) is 4th on the team, behind Fox, Monk and Bam.

Yes, you're seeing what the reality has been for a long time. Also Briscoe can be a turnover machine which is one of the worst things a player can do. It's worse than missing shots and sucking on defense imo.

He's not a protected recruit. Briscoe wants to be a pro, and Cal is going to accommodate that goal over the goodwill of the team. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it's happening.
 

Xception

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What are all these dimensions that make Briscoe so fantastic? He's a one trick pony who a lot of teams have figured out. He should play. Just not 30 minutes a game.
He plays better defense than Mulder , he is a better passer , he can penetrate and rebound better than Mulder . Outside of shooting threes how about you tell me what Mulder does better than Briscoe or what Mulder does besides shooting threes .
 
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JohnBlue

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Mulder did some good things tonight, but he also did some bad things like star gazing while the other team drove for lay-ups. He needs to shoot more too, he has gotten the Willis problem of getting rid of the ball as quick as it touches his hands. I think Monk threatened him is the only reason he took his only shot tonight.

That said, his role on this team is not to compete against Monk, and Briscoe for minutes each night. Sure if he is hot, or really killing it in the all round game he's going to play more, and he has at times. His role is to hop off the bench when Monk, or Briscoe need a break, or get into foul trouble. He is not going to stay out there once they are ready to go. That's life folks, everyone has a role on a team and that is how you build successful teams.
 
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kybassfan

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Yes, you're seeing what the reality has been for a long time. Also Briscoe can be a turnover machine which is one of the worst things a player can do. It's worse than missing shots and sucking on defense imo.

He's not a protected recruit. Briscoe wants to be a pro, and Cal is going to accommodate that goal over the goodwill of the team. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it's happening.

Utter unsupportable nonsense.
 
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morgousky

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Mulder did some good things tonight, but he also did some bad things like star gazing while the other team drove for lay-ups. He needs to shoot more too, he has gotten the Willis problem of getting rid of the ball as quick as it touches his hands. I think Monk threatened him is the only reason he took his only shot tonight.

That said, his role on this team is not to compete against Monk, and Briscoe for minutes each night. Sure if he is hot, or really killing it in the all round game he's going to play more, and he has at times. His role is to hop off the bench when Monk, or Briscoe need a break, or get into foul trouble. He is not going to stay out there once they are ready to go. That's life folks, everyone has a role on a team and that is how you build successful teams.

If Briscoe was #75 in the ratings and Mulder was a top 20 sophomore with professional aspirations, Mulder would be splitting minutes at minimum, and probably more. There's absolutely no doubt about it.
 

Primedfor9

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Those of you bashing on Mulder's defense, you're not actually suggesting Briscoe is even a decent defender this year are you? Because if you are, well, then that's pretty stupid.
 

morgousky

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Those of you bashing on Mulder's defense, you're not actually suggesting Briscoe is even a decent defender this year are you? Because if you are, well, then that's pretty stupid.

Yes, they are.

Briscoe is NOT a better defender than Mulder, he's just a bit stickier at times because he's got a better motor. He gets beat at the same damn rate by the end of the play.
 

mash_24

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He plays better defense than Mulder , he is a better passer , he can penetrate and rebound better than Mulder . Outside of shooting threes how about you tell me what Mulder does better than Briscoe or what Mulder does besides shooting threes .

I honestly haven't seen enough of Mulder to know what he can do. What I have seen has been pretty positive.
 

morgousky

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My God.

Briscoe is nowhere near a good defender. You're watching on the ball too much. He gets beat around the floor and at the end of the play cannot stop anyone. He's quicker than mulder with a wild motor, it appears he's better defending. He is not.

There are ZERO above average defenders on this team.
 
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No, he did it more than that. I watched him frozen to the floor as a guy ran right buy him for an uncontested layup.

Not tonight you didn't. I focused on him every time he was in and he gave up 2 jumpers, but the one time he got beat on a drive, the guy lost the ball out of bounds.
 

Xception

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I honestly haven't seen enough of Mulder to know what he can do. What I have seen has been pretty positive.
Thats what I thought , you just answered your own question on why he doesn't play more . You couldn't even answer the question because it destroyed your argument , case closed .
 
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Cal's alliance is to get his players to the pinnacle of their potential. It seems as though he is trying way too hard to get Briscoe as much playing time possible to allow him to prove his worth to the team and the NBA scouts.

He also seems to have a hierarchy of players and Briscoe is ahead of Mulder and Willis. His team, his way and how can any of us fans argue his results? But, it does make one wonder how long does he go until his limit is reached toward a player like Briscoe?
 

JohnBlue

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If Briscoe was #75 in the ratings and Mulder was a top 20 sophomore with professional aspirations, Mulder would be splitting minutes at minimum, and probably more. There's absolutely no doubt about it.

You mean like Sacha Killeya-Jones is over Isaac Humphries? Look, everyone loves the back up QB but Mulder is not going to produce on the same level as Monk, and Briscoe or his coach would have him out there. Also, if he were anything like those calling for him to play more he'd be the higher rated player thus "favorite playing Cal" would have him out there all the time. There are no secrets about talent levels on this team, the NBA scouts have checked them all just to be sure.

Cal like every single coach is going to play the one's that give the team the best chance to win games. Of course fans are going to question things like this too, it's what fans do.
 

Primedfor9

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Anybody thinking Mulders defense is close to Briscoes is a moron
Briscoes been a horrible defender nearly all year, though he was ok at times last year. If you think otherwise, you suck at any kind of basketball analysis and aren't to be taken seriously.
 

Xception

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Briscoes been a horrible defender nearly all year, though he was ok at times last year. If you think otherwise, you suck at any kind of basketball analysis and aren't to be taken seriously.
If the moron comment hit you then that post did nothing to change it
 

JohnBlue

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My God.

Briscoe is nowhere near a good defender. You're watching on the ball too much. He gets beat around the floor and at the end of the play cannot stop anyone. He's quicker than mulder with a wild motor, it appears he's better defending. He is not.

There are ZERO above average defenders on this team.

He's the best defender on the team and it's not close. He is also the only one willing to take on the toughest assignment of guarding the other team best player. If some of these other guys want to play more they should step and take the challenge. Your question should be why aren't they.
 

morgousky

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You mean like Sacha Killeya-Jones is over Isaac Humphries? Look, everyone loves the back up QB but Mulder is not going to produce on the same level as Monk, and Briscoe or his coach would have him out there. Also, if he were anything like those calling for him to play more he'd be the higher rated player thus "favorite playing Cal" would have him out there all the time. There are no secrets about talent levels on this team, the NBA scouts have checked them all just to be sure.

Cal like every single coach is going to play the one's that give the team the best chance to win games. Of course fans are going to question things like this too, it's what fans do.


As I said earlier, SKJ checked out the moment he showed up and didn't put the work in. He's probably going to transfer and it's not a good example.

Briscoe wants to be a pro far more than he wants to be at UK. Cal is well aware of that. He's not going to risk taking his chance away by placing him where he belongs (6th man) and splitting some of his minutes.

If some agree with it, fine. Cal's results do speak for themselves, and recruiting is his schtick. He might feel it could be used against him. I don't know.

But there's no excuse in Mulder not getting more time considering we need the spacing and he's got a good per on this team.
 

kybassfan

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He's the best defender on the team and it's not close. He is also the only one willing to take on the toughest assignment of guarding the other team best player. If some of these other guys want to play more they should step and take the challenge. Your question should be why aren't they.

Not to mention some of the mismatches he's had to deal with.
 
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morgousky

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He's the best defender on the team and it's not close. He is also the only one willing to take on the toughest assignment of guarding the other team best player. If some of these other guys want to play more they should step and take the challenge. Your question should be why aren't they.

He's got the best MOTOR on the team, he's not a good defender. If he is the best defender on this team, we won't make it out of the second round. Briscoe has never been a good defender. People just see the motor and think it's defense. It's not.
 

mash_24

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Thats what I thought , you just answered your own question on why he doesn't play more . You couldn't even answer the question because it destroyed your argument , case closed .

Cals insistence on playing Briscoe 30+ minutes a game is gonna make for a short tourney trip. My whole point was that Mulder may be a better fit for this team that has other ball dominant guys.
 
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Xception

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Cals insistence on playing Briscoe 30+ minutes a game is gonna make for a short tourney trip. My whole point was that Mulder may be a better fit for this team that has other ball dominant guys.
Based on what , threes ? You want to take away Briscoes time when Mulder only does one thing better . Your argument is based on nothing factual but just your preference . If Mulder is centric to our tournament run then we are in trouble