mulder riding the pine...

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Im sure cal has a reason but against wright st he cant even get in the first 12 mins so far? If he cant get in this rotation he def wont crack next years
 

caneintally

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Uh its 3 games in man , talk about overreaction. Now when we are up 30 in the 2nd half and he doesn't play then we can talk but Ulis , Murray and Briscoe are the guards . Mathews and Willis get some time at the 2-3 and Poy gets time at 4 and 5.
 
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Great point muevans and of course he checks in immed. I dont care either way just wondering how he went from maybe being 7th man to not playing
 

fs-ripcord65

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
 
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I have no problem if he sits every game, i trust cal 100. I (was just wondering why? I didnt say hes a difference maker, in my opinion he would be better than willis who looks scared most of the time and is horrible on defense. It will work itself out.
 

wall2rondo

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He was insurance in case we didn't get Murray. Mulder knew what he was getting into. He will be fine. He could be at some random school getting PT. or a shot at a title
 

*Bleedingblue*

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.

Huh?? You must be a fan of KU or UNC or some other school.
 

Montana81

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He'll develop.

I think he'll be a nice role player for next year's squad.

Yeah Mulder looks a little lost out there. I'm just hoping we get to see him put someone on a poster before the year is over because he and Hawkins have the best hops on the team. And Mulder has a 6'10 wingspan on top of the 44" vertical.
 

Poetax

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Im sure cal has a reason but against wright st he cant even get in the first 12 mins so far? If he cant get in this rotation he def wont crack next years

Actually he rebounded well tonight, but it's going to be hard for him, Willis, and Matthews to get a lot of time. Tonight no one besides Ulis and Briscoe looked that good. Lee better hope that Alex doesn't get 100% soon because his game was a little nonexistent too.
 
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brianpoe

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.


Rip, did Cutnets hack your account?
 

irishcat1965

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
I'm going to take a wild guess this is sarcasm.
 
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Lob2Davis

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With all the work this team needs, as evidenced by tonight's game, the regular rotation needs all the minutes it can get
 
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throatpoker

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Gonna be hard for him to earn minutes when that's done in ppractice and he's getting eaten alive there by our three guards and probably by Matthews too, even by dom
 

OHIO COLONEL

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
Yep, that's how HOF coaches get in the Hall.....playing those guys at the end of the bench.
 

FiveStarCat

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
Or maybe he realizes that because a good portion of his rotation is inexperienced, he's better served getting those guys as many minutes as possible. He doesn't have three years to develop Murray, Briscoe, Skal. Not sure where you be been for the past six years but this is the way Cal has always done it and I think he's been fairly successful.
 

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Im sure cal has a reason but against wright st he cant even get in the first 12 mins so far? If he cant get in this rotation he def wont crack next years
At the time Mulder was signed, Murray was stilI committed and we needed more backcourt depth. Mulder has some skills. But he looks smaller than his listed height, and thinner than his listed weight. He plays hard, but isn't very physical. I think Mulder will benefit from a full year of development in our program and may play more next year than this year.
 
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Most of the time when someone with offensive skills isn't playing it's due to their defense, or lack of it. Not uncommon at all.
 

Blue Decade

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
Okay. Let's just take this from the top. Calipari is 194-38 at Kentucky, a higher winning percentage than Adolph Rupp's. Calipari has already taken Kentucky to 4 FFs, and he won the 2012 national championship. Presently, 18 former Kentucky players coached by Calipari are playing in the NBA. I would say that's pretty good player development. Calipari also inherited Josh Harrellson and Darius Miller who were floundering badly under the previous coach, but Calipari developed both into NBA players. Pat Forde, definitely no friend of Kentucky, said that "Calipari's greatest strength as a coach is his ability to create teams that play together". Like all good coaches, Calipari plays the players who earn playing time in practice. But unlike most other coaches, Calipari builds each team around the skills and strengths of the players on his roster that particular year. Last year's team was built to feature KAT and WCS, who turned out to be high NBA lottery picks. This year's team features our guards, and Calipari has obviously been pressing more. We are using 2 presses, a 2-2-1 and a 3-1-1. The 2-2-1 is a soft press, designed to force the other team to eat time off the clock getting the ball up the court and then get into its half court offense farther from the basket. The 3-1-1 is a hard press, but Calipari has only shown it a couple of times so far. This is smart, because our future opponents aren't seeing the 3-1-1 when they scout us. Get it? It's true that Calipari has brought amazing talent to Lexington. But it's completely untrue to suggest he hasn't developed that talent. Last June, 4 Kentucky players were picked in the 1st round of the NBA draft. The difference in Eric Bledsoe, Anthony Davis, Devin Booker, Trey Lyles, and KAT after only 1 year at Kentucky was amazing. WCS was an all state football player in Kansas with a minimal basketball background. Calipari developed him into an NBA lottery pick. You don't win games by playing your entire bench. You win games by out scoring the other team. Not every player is ready to contribute immediately. Michael Mulder has only been in our program for 5 months. Mulder is only 6'2" and not very strong. But he has skills, and Calipari will develop them. Ripcord, it sounds like you have been spoiled to the point of outright cluelessness by the very same coach you are bashing here.
 

blubo

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
sheesh.
 

W_Heisenberg

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Im sure cal has a reason but against wright st he cant even get in the first 12 mins so far? If he cant get in this rotation he def wont crack next years


Yeah his reason is he needs his main rotation playing together and mess around with lineups.

Is Mulder your cousin or something? Of all effing things to worry about...
 

Lob2Davis

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
 

83Cat_rivals79182

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The more high-quality players Cal has above seven (7), the more Cal looks like an average basketball coach. He just doesn't make any apparent effort to get the guys way down the bench involved in not-so-close games Witness, Mulder. Cal has no idea how to coach a full-game, full-court press - effectively using his advantage in the quality of his players at the end of the bench. Etc. But, fortunately, those limitations have been adequately concealed by the overwhelming level of talent Cal has had in the last two seasons. Before that, Cal had an abundance of talent, but only recently an "over-abundance" of talent.
So, when you are playing a game, not practicing, you suggest experimenting and exercising the players that you had determined through your daily practices were not good enough to help you win. I think that you have competing/games mixed up with practice/evaluation/training/planning. You do the one to prepare for the other. Not vice versa. People tend to forget that cal and his staff watch their roster play A LOT, and it becomes darned obvious who you want to play in the games to win. He wouldn't care if the guy is green, 5'1" with snot running down his shirt, if he is laying it down and dominating in practice, he WILL PLAY HIM. If he is not as good as the others, he will not, or he will be near the end of the line. Why would he?
 

bucsrule8872

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I don't expect things to get any better for Mulder next season.

With Fox and Monk in the backcourt along with Matthews and Gabriel and Willis playing the 3, there is just no room for him.
 

kentucky_wildcat_#1

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At the time Mulder was signed, Murray was stilI committed and we needed more backcourt depth. Mulder has some skills. But he looks smaller than his listed height, and thinner than his listed weight. He plays hard, but isn't very physical. I think Mulder will benefit from a full year of development in our program and may play more next year than this year.

You may be right about playing more next year. If that happens, it probably means we don't have as much depth at guard than we would like. Fox and Monk are starting no matter what. With Matthews having a year under his belt, he will be in the rotation and a very nice player. Mulder will have to be our 3rd guard off the bench and play a lil forward if he wants to see any playing time come next season.
 

bucsrule8872

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Mulder is just buried behind a ton of talent this year and next. Keep this in mind as well, he probably wouldn't have played last night if Hawkins had not been suffering from the stomach flu.

Next year he might pass Hawkins, but it's doubtful. He will be lucky to get any minutes during his time at UK unless he really comes on.