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ThrowBones92

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We cant have Federal agencies attacking citizens because they are butthurt over an election.

Thats a pretty big deal..
So every indictment, conviction, and the plethora other federal cases that were handed down to other jurisdictions as a result of this single investigation are classified as "butthurt"? The SDNY will probably get to weigh in before anyone should put a bow on all of this and call it "butthurt". I also suspect that a reading of the less-redacted version of the report by Congress will show that there was reason to investigate in the first place. Finding probable cause of collusion is an entirely different matter. And the news media has done a disservice to all Americans who are paying attention to this by not themselves understanding and education viewers/listeners on what "standard of proof" means. The President and his people obviously either do not 1) understand, 2) care or 3) want other people to understand how that plays into the findings of the Mueller investigation.

The fact that the President said he was fully exonerated by the findings of the report, even though nobody had read them, and even though Barr's report did not state that, gives you a good idea that he's relying on the public to taking his "analysis" of the findings over myraid legal experts who understand what the report does and does not mean.

A lot of people misunderstand what the Mueller investigation's actual goal was and also misunderstand that Barr is doing his best to keep the President out of trouble with his 4 page highlight of the 400-page report.
 

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I don't trust any Nebraskan who only talks about National politics. Washington has such a small impact on our lives...whereas decisions by our local/state government effect the jobs we work, the schools we attend, and who our neighbors are...the more a policy decision effects a person the less political it becomes...a liberal will want lower taxes on April 15th and a conservative will want freedom to an abortion if their wife has a life threatening condition from a pregnancy. Now if our governor and legislature doesn't stand up to the president on issues that effect Nebraska negatively then he needs to be dumped and replaced. That has nothing to do with the president. The real problem is our state leaders tend to follow a party line rather than do what is best for the special circumstances of the state.
 

ThrowBones92

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Problem is, I don't think either party represents REAL America. The GOP didn't want the guy who won. The DNC is giving the appearance of being run but fanatical nuts. I don't see that representing the people i interact with and I have people that I disagree with. However we agree on more than we disagree with. That's what middle America is.

Just like every other presidential election in memory, parties play to the extremes leading up to the primaries, and then they moderate once in the general election. It's like clockwork, and it's because you shouldn't expect to win if you don't follow who the data says votes in primary elections.
 

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Just like every other presidential election in memory, parties play to the extremes leading up to the primaries, and then they moderate once in the general election. It's like clockwork, and it's because you shouldn't expect to win if you don't follow who the data says votes in primary elections.
Diagree with in regards to the 2016. The GOP DID NOT want who got the nomination. And the DNC was a blind railroad job.
 

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Diagree with in regards to the 2016. The GOP DID NOT want who got the nomination. And the DNC was a blind railroad job.
I'm talking about the campaigning up to the primary election. It always plays to the fringes. Doesn't mean that is who gets elected, but they move in general move away from the center on issues in the primary, and lean back toward center in the general. It all has to do with who votes in each type of election. They're playing to the crowd. That's all.
 
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So every indictment, conviction, and the plethora other federal cases that were handed down to other jurisdictions as a result of this single investigation are classified as "butthurt"? The SDNY will probably get to weigh in before anyone should put a bow on all of this and call it "butthurt". I also suspect that a reading of the less-redacted version of the report by Congress will show that there was reason to investigate in the first place. Finding probable cause of collusion is an entirely different matter. And the news media has done a disservice to all Americans who are paying attention to this by not themselves understanding and education viewers/listeners on what "standard of proof" means. The President and his people obviously either do not 1) understand, 2) care or 3) want other people to understand how that plays into the findings of the Mueller investigation.

The fact that the President said he was fully exonerated by the findings of the report, even though nobody had read them, and even though Barr's report did not state that, gives you a good idea that he's relying on the public to taking his "analysis" of the findings over myraid legal experts who understand what the report does and does not mean.

A lot of people misunderstand what the Mueller investigation's actual goal was and also misunderstand that Barr is doing his best to keep the President out of trouble with his 4 page highlight of the 400-page report.

Not one person indicted for collussion with Russia..not one from the Trump campaign.

So you dont think its problem that the FBI placed an informant in the Trump campaign, have him try to entrap his campaign workers, then leak the story too a newspaper, then use that same leak as an excuse to investigate Trumps campaign also using, intel from Russian spies that wasnt verified in a FISA warrant but dont tell the courts its paid for by the opposition and its not verified..4 times...


Trump told Comey to investigate anyone he thinks is dirty in his campaign.

This investigarion never should have happened...That's why the IG is investigIng FISA abuse.
 

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I hope the Democratic congress impeaches for obstruction of justice. That will mean Trump is re- elected and we do not have to live in a socialist country at least for another 4 years maybe some reason will return to the left by that time

Are you a multi-millionaire?
 
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Not one person indicted for collussion with Russia..not one from the Trump campaign.

So you dont think its problem that the FBI placed an informant in the Trump campaign, have him try to entrap his campaign workers, then leak the story too a newspaper, then use that same leak as an excuse to investigate Trumps campaign also using, intel from Russian spies that wasnt verified in a FISA warrant but dont tell the courts its paid for by the opposition and its not verified..4 times...


Trump told Comey to investigate anyone he thinks is dirty in his campaign.

This investigarion never should have happened...That's why the IG is investigIng FISA abuse.

Lol...your understanding of the facts are terrible.

Do you know why a Special Counsel was appointed?
 

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I am interested to see what effect this has on the overall narrative of Trump's terrible presidency; really, will the release of this report cause a sea change, or will it be more of the same, another one of the many, many horrible things we all have to hear about.
 

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I just cant understand how anyone can support Trump the man. Support your party all you want but not him. The lies, laziness, stupidity he displays on a daily basis do not represent what the people of this country are all about. Did HE conspire with the Russians? Probably not. His entire organization is so inept I dont think they were capable of effectively conspiring with anything or anyone. Did they welcome help from the Russians? Absolutely. Obstruction??Absolutely ...just look at his ramblings on twitter. They are a morally bankrupt (financially too) family that was born on third base and ended up with a single. It is impressive that a man who is by all accounts an atheist managed to get the Evangelical vote.
 

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Lol, the Mueller report literally says "We can't charge the President with obstruction of justice, but only because the underlings he ordered to obstruct justice refused to carry out his orders."

HA HA HA HA HA oh man...
 

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I just cant understand how anyone can support Trump the man. Support your party all you want but not him. The lies, laziness, stupidity he displays on a daily basis do not represent what the people of this country are all about. Did HE conspire with the Russians? Probably not. His entire organization is so inept I dont think they were capable of effectively conspiring with anything or anyone. Did they welcome help from the Russians? Absolutely. Obstruction??Absolutely ...just look at his ramblings on twitter. They are a morally bankrupt (financially too) family that was born on third base and ended up with a single. It is impressive that a man who is by all accounts an atheist managed to get the Evangelical vote.

THIS.
 
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I'm talking about the campaigning up to the primary election. It always plays to the fringes. Doesn't mean that is who gets elected, but they move in general move away from the center on issues in the primary, and lean back toward center in the general. It all has to do with who votes in each type of election. They're playing to the crowd. That's all.
I c, you meant the individual candidate.
 
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I never thought I'd see the day that the US would be run by the Russians. Putin's pet wasted no time in undermining NATO, capitulating in Helsinki, and attacking institutions critical to our security (FBI, NSA, CIA, etc).

The Russians and Chinese are ahead of us in Hypersonics and AI but we're diverting billions from our defense budget to build a wall to keep them browns out. Sweet.
You definitely have TDS/CD
 

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Lol...your understanding of the facts are terrible.

Do you know why a Special Counsel was appointed?
I was reading his response just shaking my head. Pretty clear the talking points are from a talk show host. Sean Hannity is not a legal expert.
 

ThrowBones92

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I c, you meant the individual candidate.
Yes. Sorry. I was originally responding to the reference that democratic candidates were so for to the left. I was just saying that, right now, in the lead up to the primary, they are all fighting for the votes of the people who vote in primaries. As in most primaries, votes both republicans and democrats need to win the nomination come from the fringe rather than the middle.
Once the primary is over, rhetoric moves more moderate to capture the votes that win a general election - the more moderate swing votes.
 
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