MSU's baseball program is equivalent to which school's football program?

[MedDawg]

State baseball has no national championships, but a recent #2 finish, a recent SEC Championship, and decent history with College World Series appearances in each decade since the 70's. Multiple attendance records including all of the top 14 on-campus crowds in college baseball history. Soon to have the best stadium in all of college baseball.


I initially thought of Michigan. Biggest stadium, biggest crowds. Their history is overall better than MSU baseball, as they are one of the winningest football teams in history, but they have earned only 1/2 of a National Championship (1997) since the 40's.

Then I thought of Texas A&M. Now one of the biggest football stadiums. No AP or Coaches' Poll national championships since the 30's. Some recent Top 10 years mixed with underperforming years.

Any other suggestions?

P.S. Both schools recently put out record salaries for big-time head coaches.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Maybe Virginia Tech?

 

[dawgstudent]

A&M is a really good comparison although MSU baseball has much more national success than A&M football. I was thinking Notre Dame the past 25 years as well although State again has had more success nationally.

 

[The Fatboy]

Maybe Georgia?

 

[57stratdawg]

We also only have 1 conference title in 25 years. I think that helps give some scale.

Ill go optismistic and say Pre-Dabo Clemson.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

Preseason tcun

 

[patdog]

Georgia. Michigan is a good comparison too.

 

[She Mate Me]

Wisconsin feels right to me. Successful, respected winners who haven't really reached the mountaintop, but they're consistently solid with a ton of great players and great fans.

 

[o_dawgnabit]

I like the Georgia comparison. Several SEC Championships, lots of elite players have gone through each program and had great pro careers. Great facilities, and resources, and has always pulled in consistent great recruiting classes. Just don't have the big one (minus one in 1980 for UGA)

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Notre Dame is the best comparison to me. The other schools mentioned are pretty consistent bowl teams, where Notre Dame has ****** seasons mixed in. That is MSU baseball. We have ****** seasons mixed in with good ones and consider ourselves an elite program.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Mississippi State.... Croom years are about to begin **

 

[shotgunDawg]

Easy question:

MSU's baseball program is the Tennessee of college football.

While Tennessee has a few nattys, both programs have no coaching stability, big stadiums, drug problems, awesome tradition, & fan bases that believe they deserve more.

MSU does not currently have a "baseball program"

We have a team, stadium, & fan base, but the program does not exist. There is no leadership, no trusted development program, & below average reputation in the region for how they develop players.

MSU baseball needs stability, trust, development, & consistency to change the reputation in the baseball world.

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

I'd agree with this one. The only problem would be that Ron Polk would be the Frank Beamer?

 

[Go Budaw]

A&M is a really good comparison although MSU baseball has much more national success than A&M football. I was thinking Notre Dame the past 25 years as well although State again has had more success nationally.

I agree with Texas A&M. Huge, opulent stadium. Record crowds and unique traditions that all scream super-power. Yet, not a damn bit of national title hardware in the trophy case to support such a claim.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Preseason tcun

Nah they have won several pre season national titles

 

[AusTexDawg]

Easy question:
MSU's baseball program is the Tennessee of college football.
While Tennessee has a few nattys, both programs have no coaching stability, big stadiums, drug problems, awesome tradition, & fan bases that believe they deserve more.
MSU does not currently have a "baseball program"
We have a team, stadium, & fan base, but the program does not exist. There is no leadership, no trusted development program, & below average reputation in the region for how they develop players.
MSU baseball needs stability, trust, development, & consistency to change the reputation in the baseball world.

I wouldn't go so far as to say we "don't have a program", and all I know for drugs are the rumors floated on the boards, but the rest of the Tennessee-except-for-the-BCS-championship comparison rings true. Many of the fans' expectations are based on what is ancient history for all practical purposes. Polk II is comparable to late-era Fulmer. I guess that makes Cann our Joey Freshwater

I do have faith that whomever Cohen hires, it'll be a better choice than Derek Dooley.

 

[5049]

Wisconsin feels right to me. Successful, respected winners who haven't really reached the mountaintop, but they're consistently solid with a ton of great players and great fans.

Wisconsin in the complete opposite. They are the poster child for stability, very consistent. If MSU is one thing, it's consistently inconsistent

The only similarity is that both have no national titles

 

[5049]

I like the Georgia comparison. Several SEC Championships, lots of elite players have gone through each program and had great pro careers. Great facilities, and resources, and has always pulled in consistent great recruiting classes. Just don't have the big one (minus one in 1980 for UGA)

MSU has to fight battles within baseball that Georgia does not within football. Plus Georgia has reached the mountain top

 

[5049]

Texas A&M, Clemson pre-Dabo

Both have big followings and crazed fans, and Clemson shows what you can do once you get the hire right, even though they really got lucky

 

[5049]

Easy question:

MSU's baseball program is the Tennessee of college football.

While Tennessee has a few nattys, both programs have no coaching stability, big stadiums, drug problems, awesome tradition, & fan bases that believe they deserve more.

MSU does not currently have a "baseball program"

We have a team, stadium, & fan base, but the program does not exist. There is no leadership, no trusted development program, & below average reputation in the region for how they develop players.

MSU baseball needs stability, trust, development, & consistency to change the reputation in the baseball world.

I could sort of see this (the Tennessee comparison), except for the no program part. We had all those things under Cohen

 

[state2013]

West Virginia. A few big time bowls (cws appearances), one 2nd place overall finish, a few dozen bowl games (equivalent to a regional bid), a few oberall conference titles in the big east, no national titles, maybe a little less respectable facilities/program but not too far off.

 

[She Mate Me]

Wisconsin in the complete opposite. They are the poster child for stability, very consistent. If MSU is one thing, it's consistently inconsistent

The only similarity is that both have no national titles

State has been to 36 NCAA tourneys. 16 of the last 21 with 3 straight missed during the Polk to Cohen transition. I'll take that for pretty consistent.

Wisconsin has been to 29 Bowl games with the vast majority of their success in the last 30 years.

 

[Shamoan]

Oregon in the last 20 years.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Nebraska?

 

[CoolDawg]

Of the teams mentioned, I would agree on Texas A&M. Their fans view their program as being much more nationally relevant than it really is, much as our fans view the MSU program.

 

[Shamoan]

Any team that has won the national title is automatically disqualified from consideration. It has to be a powerhouse that has never won it all but has great players but fails for whatever unclear reason.

 

[tatedog]

I think Arkansas isn't a bad comparison. Hell Arkansas baseball would be a good comparison for Arkansas football too.