MSU/RU prediction thread

higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
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Sanders vs Winston even
Baker vs Langford 25lb size difference
Williams vs Bridges- I like giving Williams a challenge, and Bridges is too strong for Thiam.
Omoyuri vs Jaren-Jackson Jackson fouls the most, and Omoyuri has proven adept at taking the biggest defender, and also being able to draw charges.
Freeman versus Ward

Game notes- Try to force fouls on Jaren Jackson, and make MSU play outside their top, and best five. They have a lot of size, average 86.5 points a game, and allow 62.5 points from opponents. First off the bench is Thiam and Doucoure. Like others said, let Doucoure come off the bench, be a little more settled, play within himself without the starter pressure.

Let's go Sanders and Omoyuri!

MSU 75
RU 66
 

higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
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Sanders, Baker, Omoyuri, Freeman, Doucoure will probably see the starts.
 

FrankZ_RU93

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
25,560
11,230
113
Assuming loss every game from here on out, and will hope to be pleasantly surprised/shocked by a W.
 
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RU MAN

Heisman
Oct 29, 2001
23,628
10,216
113
Double digit loss, but at least MSU will be out of the way for the season.
 

MGSA99

All-Conference
Jan 15, 2002
7,791
3,523
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We’ll be talking about recipes in the game thread by the 1st TV Timeout.
 

BillyC80

Heisman
Oct 23, 2006
17,097
15,491
72
I had the winner and point differential right vs Wisky. I hope I get this one wrong:

MSU 77
RU 61
 

KnightsofChrome

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Sep 20, 2012
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I'm curious, last year we beat the Ohio State team by 9 pts., this year the Ohio State team beat Michigan State by 16 pts., and yet there are many here that predict a blow out with Michigan State. Have they become super human, God like. Logic please, or is this board just filled with a bunch of girly boy's?
We might get blown out, but we could also win. To predict a blowout, with us being on the receiving end is just plain unfanlike(I know, just made it up). If we the fans start predicting blowouts, what are the players going to think, with this lack of support?
RU 67 Michigan State 64 in an empty arena......
 

ScarletDave

Heisman
Oct 7, 2010
34,597
15,352
85
In the first game Rutgers jumped out to an early 11-0 lead I think (maybe 8-0? Can’t remember). Anyway lost by 10. So a 20-point turn around. Add to the fact that MSU is at home so subtract 10 points from us and add it to them, plus 10 points against us since it’s B1G refs. Given that, it’s about a 40-point turn around from a 10-point loss. So,
Rutgers 65
Mich St. 63
 

TobyTyler1

Junior
Aug 29, 2013
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I would like to see Corey play selfish in this one. Everybody will complain about the forced shots and drives but for every force you get one that goes down or draw a foul. Which is a better percentage than other options.
 
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higgins3

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All these posters giving Rutgers the win..I think two or three so far


I salute you! Let's go RU. It's a tough matchup. With so many predicting a loss, who knows?

Rutgers has been there before. Looking back, none of MSU stars had awful games. Rutgers performed the non-negotiables better. They got Jaren Jackson in foul trouble. Sanders had a 6 pt scoring game. What happens when he is locked in, and shots fall for him a little?

Can they do it again?
 

mikefla

All-Conference
Nov 19, 2012
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Our team is over the back to back losses. Baker is due for a good game and Gene O seems to be back. Whats important to me is we remain competitive & dont lose confidence.

Close at halftime

MSU 73
Rutgers 61
 

Newbrunfus

All-Conference
Jul 29, 2010
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Would love to be optimistic since we played them tough at home but they will be playing angry and we’re on the road so not a good recipe for success. 84-60 loss.
 

KnightsofChrome

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Sep 20, 2012
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I would like to see Corey play selfish in this one. Everybody will complain about the forced shots and drives but for every force you get one that goes down or draw a foul. Which is a better percentage than other options.
"Better percentage"???? Sorry, but Corey is just not that good. He is basically a very good schoolyard player. And, if that goes against your here worship of him I apologize, just the way I see it.
The way to beat this team, and any other team we play is really a simple methodology, but hard to execute consistently. In your face Defense, box out, rebound on both sides of the court, and make simple layups, 80% from the foul line, and hit the open 15 footers.
Corey alone, cannot carry this team, even when he has his best game.
 

TobyTyler1

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Aug 29, 2013
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, and make simple layups, 80% from the foul line, and hit the open 15 footers.
Corey alone, cannot carry this team, even when he has his best game.
Corey hasn't carried this team to wins? lol
the only Big Ten starter caliber player on the entire team. is his shooting percentage good? no, it's not. is the ball in his hands more often then not when the other MAAC level players can't get themselves open or pass up on shots? do you seriously watch the team?

and the rest of the team can't shoot so whatever you said about layups, free throws and 15 footers isn't happening with this roster.

remember only 350 D1 tams

3P%
Rutgers B10
30.7 #316

2P%
Rutgers B10
43.3 #328

FT%
Rutgers B10
62.2 #345

eFG%
Rutgers B10
44.0 #340



 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
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Who guards Bridges with this starting lineup?

I worry about all 5 guys, especially Winston knocking down 3s. Williams and Eugene would be the 2 guys that I'd think we see on him. Part of me likes Freeman on him, like the concept of him having to step it up on D and being a focus. He did a great job on Happ (totally different player) to start the game.

The matchup that scares me is Duocoure on Nick Ward.
 

MV9000

All-Conference
Jan 6, 2016
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Lose by 12. 72-60... saw Freeman post he was sick on his IG. So we should see Eugene get lots of Burn if he looks off.

Need to close out on 3s. Here to hoping for the best!
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
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"Better percentage"???? Sorry, but Corey is just not that good. He is basically a very good schoolyard player. And, if that goes against your here worship of him I apologize, just the way I see it.
The way to beat this team, and any other team we play is really a simple methodology, but hard to execute consistently. In your face Defense, box out, rebound on both sides of the court, and make simple layups, 80% from the foul line, and hit the open 15 footers.
Corey alone, cannot carry this team, even when he has his best game.


The only path I see to keeping this a game with 5 minutes left involves Corey have a huge impact.
 

RU848789

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
65,211
44,287
113
The only path I see to keeping this a game with 5 minutes left involves Corey have a huge impact.
Kind of agree - Corey needs to have a huge game to keep this competitive. After their horrible loss to OSU, we should be afraid, very afraid. Will be happy to keep it under 20.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Kind of agree - Corey needs to have a huge game to keep this competitive. After their horrible loss to OSU, we should be afraid, very afraid. Will be happy to keep it under 20.

On the bright side..that logic didn't hold true for Hartford. the Stony Brook loss didn't exactly get our attention.

I'd love to see a study on how teams bounce back after disappointing losses. Is there any difference? The hot hand theory has been sort of disproven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-hand_fallacy
 

higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
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Who guards Bridges with this starting lineup?

Omoyuri. I also think Williams could give him a shot. In every good game Rutgers has had, a combination went after their best player. For Bridges, you rotate Omoyuri and Williams on him.
 

higgins3

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"Better percentage"???? Sorry, but Corey is just not that good. He is basically a very good schoolyard player. And, if that goes against your here worship of him I apologize, just the way I see it.
The way to beat this team, and any other team we play is really a simple methodology, but hard to execute consistently. In your face Defense, box out, rebound on both sides of the court, and make simple layups, 80% from the foul line, and hit the open 15 footers.
Corey alone, cannot carry this team, even when he has his best game.

Say what you want about Sanders, but it is hard to say he is not clutch. He plays to the level of opponent. That stunk against Stony Brook and Hartford. In conference play, it sounds good.