MSU QBs as passers

DawgInThe256

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This isn't intended as a defense or attack on Fitz. I've followed MSU since the Bellard era, and I have trouble coming up with more than 1 or 2 QBs that didn't make me cringe every time they threw a pass. Russell, Fant, and Dak (JR and SR years only) come to mind. Am I missing any?
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Jun 5, 2008
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Yeah, and consider what is causing

Dak all of his problems this season...

Lack of protection, and receiver issues.
 

boatsandhoes

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Sep 6, 2012
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Todd Jordan

This isn't intended as a defense or attack on Fitz. I've followed MSU since the Bellard era, and I have trouble coming up with more than 1 or 2 QBs that didn't make me cringe every time they threw a pass. Russell, Fant, and Dak (JR and SR years only) come to mind. Am I missing any?

taite, sleepy, plump
IMO it was always one of more of several problems
Bad offensive scheme/not geared for throwing it
Not enough good wr’s to get separation from sec competition
Inability to block well enough to give time for routes
One dimensional offenses

Sec defensives are going to crowd the box if you can’t scare them deep, and that has always been our problem area.
 

MaxwellSmart

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May 28, 2007
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Todd Jordan was a good passer. Derrick Taite was pathetic. Eric Moulds was the only reason Taite got a 49% career completion percentage.
 

Dawgzilla

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Mar 3, 2008
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I think Smith's career completion percentage was in the high 40s. But I never was afraid for him to pass, so there's that.
 

coach66

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Mar 5, 2009
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One of the best pure passer, pocket QB's we ever had. If he has played QB his

entire career I think he could have had a decent NFL career. Things just didn't work out for him.
 

coach66

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Mar 5, 2009
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Yep, I think he was good enough for the NFL, I'm not sure he ever got a shot but

he probably did.
 

dudehead

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Jul 9, 2006
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Yep he could chunk it and Mr. "soft hands" Mardye McDole could catch anything thrown at him. They were dang fun to watch.
 
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Inconsistent OL recruiting has as much to do with us being a QB graveyard (until Dak) as anything else. But as Dak proved in 2015, a truly good QB can still overcome an OL with the right variables. You can't go 10-2 or better without it, but you can be a decent team.
 

DawgInThe256

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Never saw them at State, but I vaguely remember watching Marler and Threadgill play in the CFL games on ESPN in the early 80s
 

maroonmania

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Feb 23, 2008
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Outside of Dak in 2015, the best looking passing QB I ever saw at MSU was Tony Shell. Dude could sling it. Marler was before my time so I never saw him.
 

JML105

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Sep 4, 2012
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Kyle York had potential as a good pocket passer, but never had the supporting staff.
 

TaleofTwoDogs

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Joe Reed could sling it pretty good. Played with the 49s and Lions especially with the cheerleaders.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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I remember Threadgill at MSU. He has the worst career passing stats in NFL history. Drafted as a DB by the 49ers, and they had a game where both QBs got hurt, so he and Freddie Solomon (a WR who played QB in college) both got to play QB. Threadgil attempted 2 passes. Both were intercepted.

YearTeamGAttCompPctAtt/GYdsAvgYds/GTDTD%IntInt%Lng20+40+SckSckYRate
1978San Francisco 49ers14200.00.100.00.000.02100.0000000.0
TOTAL14200.00.100.00.000.02100.0000000.0

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HumpDawgy

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Dak's Senior year was good. Dave Marler was probably our best pure passer in my lifetime. Tony Shell was good on the deep ball. Tyler Russell would have been better in a more pro style system. I didn't see Todd Jordan play much, but he threw it a lot. Think Arians was his OC.
 

coach66

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Mar 5, 2009
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Threaddaddy broke a lot of fingers in his career, threw missles no matter what

type of pass he was attempting.
 
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Dak's Senior year was good. Dave Marler was probably our best pure passer in my lifetime. Tony Shell was good on the deep ball. Tyler Russell would have been better in a more pro style system. I didn't see Todd Jordan play much, but he threw it a lot. Think Arians was his OC.
Arians came with Sherill. I think Jordan had already graduated by then.
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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Tommy Pharr to David Smith and Sammy Milner. We couldn't beat anybody but those three were fun to watch.
 
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