MSU O/U 8.5 wins ?

shotgunDawg

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Ovah....

It's the right line though, especially when considering that many people will bet against MSU because of our helmet
 

11thEagleFan

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If I still bet on sports, I’d easily drop $100 on that. I’m picking State to go 10-2, and 11-1 wouldn’t shock me, so yeah. Over.
 

ShrubDog

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Getting off that hook creates huge value.

Everyone is picking us to win 9-10 games. If we go by everything the papers and twitter say its a lock. Our whole team is a mystery right now, the coaching staff is going to have some hiccups, just how big? Shoop is a huge question mark imo.

That said, Im not touching it unless I can get 8. And that would still be an average play.
 
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Jwsjr

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Anyone seen better than Over 8.5 +105? i saw 8 long time ago and dragged my feet unfortunately
 
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RPOdawg

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Getting off that hook creates huge value.



Everyone is picking us to win 9-10 games. If we go by everything the papers and twitter say its a lock. Our whole team is a mystery right now, the coaching staff is going to have some hiccups, just how big? Shoop is a huge question mark imo.

That said, Im not touching it unless I can get 8. And that would still be an average play.

Our whole team is a mystery? 19 returning starters with an improved coching staff and an upgrade at the Wide Receiver position isn’t a mystery imho. Shoop isn’t a question mark. He’s the real deal when he has full control of a defense....see penn state and vandy.
 

ScoobaDawg

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Buy all day long. I feel 10 wins is the low point this year. If I was in MS and could get to the coast. I'd sure lay a chunk on that.
 

ShrubDog

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Our whole team is a mystery? 19 returning starters with an improved coching staff and an upgrade at the Wide Receiver position isn’t a mystery imho. Shoop isn’t a question mark. He’s the real deal when he has full control of a defense....see penn state and vandy.

Yeah man its so easy predict every win before the season starts. How many egg bowls have we lost with a loaded team? The point is we haven’t taken a damn snap and everyone, including you, are geniuses taking the over. Vegas sure is not worried about us going over 8.5 or even 8. By all means we should win more than that but we are MSU and saying we have an upgrade before we field a team is fun to say. A few snapped ankles and a blown knee can make a difference. Care to tell us who gets hurt this year since its a lock to win over 8 games?

And if you’re so confident how many dimes have you laid on our season win total?

In his first year at Tennessee Shoop had problems getting his scheme to fit. Where have we seen this before? All it takes is a few blown assignments to turn a year from great to OK. We don’t know what we have until we see it.
 
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Jddrew1142

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I dropped $130 to win $100 at the beau rivage. 8 wins was the number. I feel like worse case i will get my money back. Also bet florida under 8.
 
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Jumping on the train and going with Over (11-1)...Going to The Hollywood in Tunica on Friday when the book opens to put some folding money on it! You put a crimson or a purple and golden helmet on this roster and everyone would have them in the top 5 headed to the playoff. Enjoy the ride boys because it’s about to be one to remember! Hail State
 
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I think 9 is a safe bet before a bowl, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if we are at 8 wins going into bowl season.
 
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Yeah man its so easy predict every win before the season starts. How many egg bowls have we lost with a loaded team? The point is we haven’t taken a damn snap and everyone, including you, are geniuses taking the over. Vegas sure is not worried about us going over 8.5 or even 8. By all means we should win more than that but we are MSU and saying we have an upgrade before we field a team is fun to say. A few snapped ankles and a blown knee can make a difference. Care to tell us who gets hurt this year since its a lock to win over 8 games?

And if you’re so confident how many dimes have you laid on our season win total?

In his first year at Tennessee Shoop had problems getting his scheme to fit. Where have we seen this before? All it takes is a few blown assignments to turn a year from great to OK. We don’t know what we have until we see it.

“We are MSU”? What does that mean?
And you’re right. I suppose if fitz breaks his leg and half our defense has season ending injuries then yes the under 8.5 is a real possibility. That could be said about any team in America though. I said in another thread I put 500 on the over 8.5. Bob Shoop never had problems with his scheme at Tennessee. He had problems with a dumb *** head coach who couldn’t stay out of the way and a ton of injuries. I think if you compare our position coaches last year to this year It’s really not even close. Moorhead is unproven I guess in the sense of developing talent like mullen did, but that’s about it. We are winning over 8.5 games and you can screen shot this and we will revisit at the end of the season.
 

ShrubDog

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Well good luck on your bet. I hope we win more than 8.5 as well. Until we see this team and our coaches in action we don’t know what we have...thats called a mystery where I grew up. You have your opinions and I have mine. My money is on other things were I see an advantage in my eyes. If I can get 8 I might play it, 8.5 Im not hanging onto a hook thats on a season win total. That is my philosophy and approach with this number and team.

UT had some injuries like most. UT probably had more 4-5* players in 2016 than we do this year and was coming off a 9-4 season with a Top 15 class. It states below they had problems implementing his scheme. This doesn’t mean we will not have any problems but like I said up top, a few plays here and there can cost you 500$ on the hook. There will be mistakes made this season with a whole new staff. Can we overcome them...




The Vols have given up 1,983 yards in the last three weeks against Kentucky (635), Missouri (740) and Vanderbilt (608). Vanderbilt’s 608 total yards is its most in the 110 years of the in-state rivalry.

The defense ended the regular season having given up 5,522 total yards (2,713 passing and 2,809 rushing) in 12 games. Shoop’s unit gave up 400 or more yards in seven games (Virginia Tech, Florida, Texas A&M, Alabama, Kentucky, Missouri and Vanderbilt). The Vols also gave up 30 or more points in half of the games.



In 2016, the Vols missed out on a New Year’s Six Bowl because of blown defensive assignments in defeats at Vanderbilt and South Carolina.

Former defensive coordinator Bob Shoop wasn’t able to implement the same complexities in his scheme at Tennessee as he did with five straight top 25-ranked defenses at Vanderbilt and Penn State.
 

drumrcraig

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Moorhead has also been quoted saying that he has been impressed with how quickly the offense and defense has picked up the scheme, so I don't think we have a Tennessee type situation here. Also, it was obvious to most last year that Tennessee had problems that extended beyond talent and coaching. I don't think you can use that as a comparison of what we may look like. When a coach has succeeded at every stop but one, then you can probably point to the school being the problem and not the coach. Look at Charlie Strong. He did a great job and Louisville and is doing a great job at South Florida. Seems like Texas was probably a bigger problem than Charlie Strong was or it was just a bad fit.
 

patdog

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Until we see this team and our coaches in action we don’t know what we have...thats called a mystery where I grew up.​
But we HAVE seen this team in action (90% of it anyway), and we HAVE seen these coaches in action at other schools. Of course there are a few questions about how it will all fit together, but there's no disputing that we have a lot of very talented players and we have a very good coaching staff. That combination usually leads to a lot of wins.
 
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Bob Shoop would literally have to fall asleep during the games to screw this defense up.
 
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