MS/Loyola

SOUTHSIDECFD

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Two bad calls second one did not change outcome of game. 1st one may have. Good win for MS. Nice last drive.

Good game.
 

SilverHelmets

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8A was a meat grinder. MS was fortunate not to lose in the first round then beat 4 excellent teams. Ended up toppping 3 unbeatens on their run
 

eagles2k3

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All those people who said holecek was the best coach in the state are absolutely wrong. He was better at most positions and got out coached tonight!
 

RockSoup

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Coach Inserra just admitted having the youth leagues out at practice or pep rally. Great team and great championship but we can stop about what programs recruit. The answer is dedicated staffs at great programs, public or private.

One just happens to be subject to a success factor

Clip and save for the next 100 private vs public debates before next August.
 
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Cross Bones

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Coach Inserra just admitted having the youth leagues out at practice or pep rally. Great team and great championship but we can stop about what programs recruit. The answer is dedicated staffs at great programs, public or private.

One just happens to be subject to a success factor

Clip and save for the next 100 private vs public debates before next August.

Got another diaper to be changed here.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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Coach Inserra just admitted having the youth leagues out at practice or pep rally. Great team and great championship but we can stop about what programs recruit. The answer is dedicated staffs at great programs, public or private.

One just happens to be subject to a success factor

Clip and save for the next 100 private vs public debates before next August.

You think this is the ONLY HS that involves its youth programs? Private schools pluck plenty of kids from youth programs. Sorry rock but this isn't anything new.

Go to a Plainfield Jr Cats or North Shore Griffins game some day and count the number of public and private coaches there watching.
 

RockSoup

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You think this is the ONLY HS that involves its youth programs? Private schools pluck plenty of kids from youth programs. Sorry rock but this isn't anything new.

Go to a Plainfield Jr Cats or North Shore Griffins game some day and count the number of public and private coaches there watching.

Exactly! Thank you
 

HoopinHawk

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Coach Inserra just admitted having the youth leagues out at practice or pep rally. Great team and great championship but we can stop about what programs recruit. The answer id dedicated staffs at great programs, public or private.

One just happens to be subject to a success factor

Clip and save for the next 100 private vs public debates before next August.

The youth leagues are all Park Ridge kids.

I have never listened to those who complain about private school advantages. As Newt and my old high school coach, Paul Adams, said, " to be the best, you have to beat the best."
 

LakeCtyNewt

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The youth leagues are all Park Ridge kids.

I have never listened to those who complain about private school advantages. As Newt and my old high school coach, Paul Adams, said, " to be the best, you have to beat the best."

Love a Paul Adams reference
 
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pjjp

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If only Warren had better coaching in its feeder programs, they would have been in this game tonight.
 
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JFelice

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You think this is the ONLY HS that involves its youth programs? Private schools pluck plenty of kids from youth programs. Sorry rock but this isn't anything new.

Go to a Plainfield Jr Cats or North Shore Griffins game some day and count the number of public and private coaches there watching.
Public schools recruit too, heck you're an idiot if you don't recruit the kids in your district to some extent. Now most abide by the rules but like privates some do not, just ask Bones about that.
 
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RockSoup

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The youth leagues are all Park Ridge kids.

I have never listened to those who complain about private school advantages. As Newt and my old high school coach, Paul Adams, said, " to be the best, you have to beat the best."
You got it! Great job. Some people want all to have a trophy, some want to play oppressed victim and some understand both sides have advantages and the best programs are run by people, staffs and communities that are very good at what they do. Congratulations to your Hawks.

What a great game.
 

Cross Bones

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What the whiners dont understand is if Maine South had their local youth leagues that makes sense. If they had the Joliet youth leagues there you might have a point. Right now, all I hear is crying. Not going to name names because you all know who you are, but it's time to take off your belly rings and anklets and put on your man pants.
 

PRokie

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Coach Inserra just admitted having the youth leagues out at practice or pep rally. Great team and great championship but we can stop about what programs recruit. The answer is dedicated staffs at great programs, public or private.

One just happens to be subject to a success factor

Clip and save for the next 100 private vs public debates before next August.
What's wrong with that? Not against any rules.
 

PRokie

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What the whiners dont understand is if Maine South had their local youth leagues that makes sense. If they had the Joliet youth leagues there you might have a point. Right now, all I hear is crying. Not going to name names because you all know who you are, but it's time to take off your belly rings and anklets and put on your man pants.
BOOOM
 

ignazio

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Pretty disappointed at LA's offensive play calling tonight.

I should say: I can't tell if it was the play calling or the execution, but either way it was flat.

Oh well, on to next year.
 

PRokie

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As Larry King would say "Harwood Heights...hello.."
Honestly the kids that come to PR that are out of district only do so because they have no other options. That being said, the vast majority of those kids end up at St. Pats. In either case, these kids usually come over in flag or their first year of tackle.

Which means what to whom?
 

RockSoup

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Honestly the kids that come to PR that are out of district only do so because they have no other options. That being said, the vast majority of those kids end up at St. Pats. In either case, these kids usually come over in flag or their first year of tackle.

Which means what to whom?

Doesn't mean anything to anyone. It's just the end of the season and there will be 50 private/public debates and another 100 threads started another topic that then morph into a private/public debate.

The great programs do what they have to do to be great. Both sides are handcuffed by those pesky things like rules but I laugh at the false naïveté and victim playing both sides play in this tired debate.
 
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LakeCtyNewt

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Doesn't mean anything to anyone. It's just the end of the season and there will be 50 private/public debates and another 100 threads started another topic that then morph into a private/public debate.

The great programs do what they have to do to be great. Both sides are handcuffed by those pesky things like rules but I laugh at the false naïveté and victim playing both sides play in this tired debate.

Rock I like what you've said here. Public or private the top programs endure year in and year out.

Rochester and Maine South are just a couple of examples. East St Louis is another.

Nowadays with the expansive youth influence on programs, it comes down to development at the ground level.

Prairie Ridge is a great example of this. They are in an area flooded with youth programs - and real good ones too.

But in their Junior Wolves program, the Samson Evans of the world start playing that offense and that defense from the first day they put the helmet on.

Some would say that's a huge advantage. And it is.

You can make a case that public programs don't have the same advantages because they don't pull from as wide of an area.

To me, you can pull from anywhere, those kids still have to be coached. Great coaching can make even the most marginal kids better. And we saw a lot of that this weekend.
 

MSBandMom

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Honestly the kids that come to PR that are out of district only do so because they have no other options. That being said, the vast majority of those kids end up at St. Pats. In either case, these kids usually come over in flag or their first year of tackle.

Which means what to whom?

Parts of Harwood Heights (along with parts of Niles, Norridge, and Norwood Park Township) are in district for Maine South. http://south.maine207.org/about/
 

SilverHelmets

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Anyone see that the media in the press conference was asking the LA kids to state what town they were from? Seemed like they were trying to prove a point. Don't recall that being asked to any team before. Lyons Township has kids from like 8 towns