Moving Cohen to AD effectively...

[FQDawg]

makes us weaker at two positions that were positions of strength for us just two months ago. Serious downgrades in both spots.

 

[missouridawg]

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator. Save these scorching takes for when you have some evidence to back it up.

Is it really this hard for MSUs fan base to follow the lead? Why does it feel like everyone thinks it's super cool to put down our own school?

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

My one question: is Cohen taking a pay cut?

 

[The Maroon Pug]

Sitting here thinking the same thing.

 

[Bulldogg31]

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator. Save these scorching takes for when you have some evidence to back it up.

Is it really this hard for MSUs fan base to follow the lead? Why does it feel like everyone thinks it's super cool to put down our own school?

Thank you. Completely agree.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator. Save these scorching takes for when you have some evidence to back it up.

Is it really this hard for MSUs fan base to follow the lead? Why does it feel like everyone thinks it's super cool to put down our own school?

It's the MSU way.

I prefer the wait and see approach, but of course, it's more fun to **** on everything the school does.

 

[SouthFarmchicken]

I actually believe we upgraded at both AD and baseball coach.

Time will tell, however. To say that both of these hires are unproven risks would be an understatement.

But seriously, I think we upgraded at both spots. That's not to downgrade what loafers and Coins did at their former jobs. They had moments of success but also had some failures. Our ceiling is higher with both John and Cannizzarro. Just my opinion though.

 

[Salty Sands Dawg]

Missouri, I'm curious, do you know what talents he has as an administrator? I hope like Hell he succeeds because it won't take long to find out.

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator. Save these scorching takes for when you have some evidence to back it up.

Is it really this hard for MSUs fan base to follow the lead? Why does it feel like everyone thinks it's super cool to put down our own school?

 

[patdog]

That's the way I see it too. Canizaro is to Cohen as Stricklin is to Foley. The puppet for the man who still wants to be in charge without doing all the day to day work.

 

[CoolDawg]

This may end up being an excellent hire, but there is nothing in Cohen's background up to this point that would suggest that he will be a good A.D. This is a risk that MSU did not have to take, and I frankly don't understand why it was done.

 

[Shmuley]

Cohen is intense. Cohen is a bastard. Cohen is very smart. Very smart. Will he make a good administrator? Who the hell knows?

 

[FQDawg]

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator.

You're exactly right. No one does. Because he doesn't have any administrative experience.

We're an SEC school. We should be beyond hiring an unproven commodity as our AD.

 

[FQDawg]

This ^^^

This is definitely a risk we didn't need to take.

 

[HD6]

Coins. How pathetic are you rugb?

I would love to know what about John Cohen the ****** (in your opinion) baseball coach makes you think he can be an effective athletic director.

 

[patdog]

Agree. They both have the potential to be outstanding hires. But neither has anywhere near the experience you look for in jobs with this high of a profile. And they could both just as easily be unmitigated disasters.

 

[yjnkdawg]

You have absolutely no clue about Cohen's talents as an administrator. Save these scorching takes for when you have some evidence to back it up.

Is it really this hard for MSUs fan base to follow the lead? Why does it feel like everyone thinks it's super cool to put down our own school?

It shouldn't be that difficult, but for some it appears to be a real challenge.

 

[57stratdawg]

He's much more qualified than we are giving him credit for.

 

[ShrubDog]

I think Cohen will be manageable at the beginning then get better with time. I have no concerns for the AD right now.

 

[Salty Sands Dawg]

Right or wrong, it's just another example of how we continue to demonstrate why we are the ultimate "Mom & Pop" run operation!

Agree. They both have the potential to be outstanding hires. But neither has anywhere near the experience you look for in jobs with this high of a profile. And they could both just as easily be unmitigated disasters.

 

[ronpolk]

Time will tell, however. To say that both of these hires are unproven risks would be an understatement.

But seriously, I think we upgraded at both spots. That's not to downgrade what loafers and Coins did at their former jobs. They had moments of success but also had some failures. Our ceiling is higher with both John and Cannizzarro. Just my opinion though.

I have no doubt that you will be bitching about the new coach by the 2nd of the first game. I wish you would have gotten an IP ban.

 

[SouthFarmchicken]

That's the thing. There is nothing to indicate that

he can be an effective AD other than him being a fierce competitor and effective leader. Then again, there is nothing to indicate he is going to be a bad AD either. It's a hire out of left field, literally and figuratively, that might be just crazy enough to work.

I mean, Hugh Freeze was a TERRIBLE hire. TERRIBLE hire. Minus the probation part, it worked out.

 

[dawgphd]

This is definitely a risk we didn't need to take.

From a small fundraising type dinner in Starkville tonight, the story is part of what Stricklin and Cohen cooked up to make this happen was Cohen willing to say, "if you don't promote me I'm leaving baseball" in order to force Keenum's hand. This came from a high ranking non athletic staff member.

The certainly would be the missing piece to the head scratcher of "why take the risk of two unknown moves?"

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Coins. How pathetic are you rugb?

Rule 18 seems to have been rescinded lately. Maybe, it is okay in a passive/agressive post?

 

[KurtRambis4]

You just don't get

his schtick. It's hilarious.****

Seriously, just ban this worthless 17, again. He brings nothing to the board.

 

[coach66]

I think Cohen will do a great job. Very

Smart guy and he loves MSU. I don't see this as
a high risk hire.

 

[lanceharbor7]

Smart guy and he loves MSU. I don't see this as
a high risk hire.

I know lots of smart guys that love MSU, doesn't mean I want them as AD.

 

[SouthFarmchicken]

I like the hires and think both will work out.

Just because I'm not crazy about Cohen as a baseball coach doesn't mean I'm not allow to think he can be useful as an AD.

I also think Cannizaro is gonna win a national championship here.

Btw, I see your post rate has gone way down. You don't have anyone to stalk anymore.

 

[KurtRambis4]

You know the

frequency of my posting, and I'm the stalker?

I hope, for your family's sake, that you're a better attorney than you are a sports fan.

 

[Snog]

Wait and see approach.

Big gambles that could hit real big if they pay off. No doubt in my mind Cohen is more than intellectually talented enough to handle it.

 

[Shamoan]

With Cohen, there is major risk not just at a critical point in our administrative future, but with this hire, that risk is doubled and spread like a cancer to our baseball program. Hiring a proven success (like om did with Bjork) cuts down on risk in one area and doesn't exacerbate a situation where that risk spreads to a big 3 program. Cohen and baseball replacements could both be huge successes, but we have exposed ourselves to a potentially terrible risk. At this point, it's just hope for the best and hold your breath.

 

[Shamoan]

From a small fundraising type dinner in Starkville tonight, the story is part of what Stricklin and Cohen cooked up to make this happen was Cohen willing to say, "if you don't promote me I'm leaving baseball" in order to force Keenum's hand. This came from a high ranking non athletic staff member. "

Assuming that's how it went down (I have some trepidation on that), that kind of blows his love for msu story out of the water. He would hold hostage his position as hc? Either way, he wasn't going to be hc next season...how would that provide him with bargaining leverage? That said, I'm not sure our upper admin would withstand such an empty threat. We might just be dumb enough for that tactic to work or maybe they have that much faith in him. My pessimistic self thinks we are just that dumb.

 

[Shmuley]

Like you, I have my doubts that this situation went down as reported by dawgphd. If it did, can you imagine the hostility and obstructionism cohanim will face from within athletic dept? I think Cohen is smarter than that; hence, no way it went down like that.

 

[Dawg1976]

If it did....I would have told him he could leave. No way that would have made me promote him. Hopefully all this works out. Time will tell. I have never liked Cohen so that is my problem with all this. On the one hand, he's not out bb coach anymore. But now he is the face of MSU athletics. That's a head shaker imo.

 

[1msucub]

This may end up being an excellent hire, but there is nothing in Cohen's background up to this point that would suggest that he will be a good A.D. This is a risk that MSU did not have to take, and I frankly don't understand why it was done.

As an objective long-timer, I was all set to share my very important opinion, but this is it almost verbatim. Well stated, sir.

 

[Tin Cup Cowboy]

If that is what happened and Keenum allowed it to happen, that makes me worry more about the administrative abilities of the current President than the new AD.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I think both hires have a bunch of upside potential but I`m also one the crazies that thinks Mullen could actually be replaced.

 

[patdog]

part of what Stricklin and Cohen cooked up to make this happen was Cohen willing to say, "if you don't promote me I'm leaving baseball" in order to force Keenum's hand.

The correct answer if Cohen had given that ultimatum is that he's no longer a candidate for the AD job and he's free to leave any time he wants to. Then you wait for him to either leave or his buyout to get low enough to afford it and you fire him.

 

[paindonthurt_]

While I get the point you and others are trying to make, it's still wrong.
There are definitely SOME things in his background that suggest he has the potential to do it.
He has admin responsibilities as a coach. He recruits. He's a leader and manager of people. It has been suggested that he has helped with fundraising and hiring.

Does he lack experience? Sure but he does have some.

 

[HD6]

Minus the probation part. "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

 

[Shmuley]

I'm predicting that Cohen's first really big task will be to navigate the shitcanning and replacement of damn yankee. We'll see what JC is made of administratively..