Bro...no one cares at all.
And, I will gladly try and see if you have done something worse. Can you give me your address and SS number?
Mo's Case
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Bro...no one cares at all.
And, I will gladly try and see if you have done something worse. Can you give me your address and SS number?
You don't care. Got it. No need to let everyone know a third time.
I will let you know every single time you post.
Look, I get it, we all get what you are doing and it makes sense but it is not how the real world works.
He probably did something "mean" and against the law...but we don't care. Just like I am going to watch that Ted Bundy movie on Netflix even though he chopped up over 30 women.
If it doesn't directly impact us, most people don't care enough to stand on your stupid hill with you. In the end, what we have is an 18 year old kid that sent back a sex tape to the girl that was in the sex tape.
I will care more about my drafty *** bay window in my TV room than I will what Mo does or what Ted Bundy did or that you probably drive over the speed limit every single time you are in your car and that it has probably resulted in some random person getting hurt.
It isn't that I don't care...it is that YOU don't care but that you want to pretend like you do.
Quit speaking for the rest of the fan base. I care. Many care. It was not a "sex tape." It was a tape of an alleged sexual assault of a minor.
Just because you're adopting the morally bankrupt position of the moral solipsist (I don't care unless it affects me) doesn't mean everyone else does or should.
I care precisely in the sense that I think Mo's position on the team should be in jeopardy. Regardless of whether he is found guilty of a misdemeanor, a felony, or nothing at all I think he should have to earn his way back on the roster or possibly not be apart of it. You don't care because you don't think there should be any repercussions. See, I care, you don't.
Ultimately I am not in a good position to decide what his punishment should be. That belongs to Frost and the administration, but I will be supremely disappointed if they take the same laissez faire attitude to his charges that you do.
And tell me, what is the difference between "virtue signaling" and taking a moral stand?
You don't care about Mo and the case...you care about the team. Which is not what that guy is going after. So once again, you don't care.
Mo is on the team. Mo is a representative of the team. I care about the team. Therefore I care about Mo as a representative of the team.
(Frost agrees, by the way, which is why he said he is disappointed whenever anyone who wears the N puts the university in a negative light.)
Was it deemed assault/rape? If so, why did she get kicked out of school and no charges were filed against the other participants?
Certainly, what Mo did was horrible, but, I thought those were the circumstances regarding the prior event.
Certainly, what Mo did was horrible, but, I thought those were the circumstances regarding the prior event.
Of course Frost agrees...it is his team/job. He wants his job to be easy not more difficult.
Don't be mad about it...be happy that you are normal. You don't sit at home at night gripping your pillow tight worrying about Mo. None of us do.
I don't think it's clear and I wish there was a better source. (Feel free to link one if my recollection of the facts are wrong.) Anyway, my understanding is that the tape was initially of sex that was supposedly consensual but she (maybe due to pressure from her parents) later said that it wasn't. That is why I said "alleged." I don't think charges were filed because the video did not establish it was not consensual. I honestly have a difficult time separating what was said on here by other posters and which may have been speculation and what has been simply been reported.
So Frost cares because it affects him (and not because he might actually think what Mo did is wrong, but simply because it affects his job--give me a break). You're right, I don't sit home at night gripping my pillow worrying about Mo. But guess what? I don't have to clutch my pillow at night to care. Again, I care precisely in the sense that I think his position on the team should be in jeopardy. That's enough to show I care, regardless of how many times you stipulate that I don't. You don't care, but you don't speak for the rest of the fan base.
Yes...I know. You don't care about Mo and/or what he did...you care about the team. That is my point. You only keep agreeing with me.
If they sign a 5 star RB today that can play next year and that is way better than Mo...guess what...you will stop "caring" about it.
I am not making your point. You completely missed the part where I said Mo was a representative of the team. What does that imply?
I don't imply anything from what you said.
I infer that you care about the team...not the players.
If Mo was not on the team...would you care about this case at all??
Of course you do! Because you care about the team! We all do. It is why we are here!
If Mo ends up off the team will I care about him and his case, yes but I’m sure it will be less than I do know. Currently there is about 100 things on a daily basis that have more time on my lists to care about but as a person I care because I don’t want people in prison if they didn’t do what they are charged with. Also don’t like to see the teams people places companies etc the to like to be embarrassed by such actions.
If he stays on the team will my caring get increased, not likely I’ll have another 100 things tomorrow to worry and focus on. If he did what he he accused of, take the judgment and do the time. If he didn’t then learn from how he ended up in a position to be charged and don’t do it again.
If he stays on the team will my caring get increased, not likely I’ll have another 100 things tomorrow to worry and focus on. If he did what he he accused of, take the judgment and do the time. If he didn’t then learn from how he ended up in a position to be charged and don’t do it again.
It implies that I care about Mo as a representative of the team, exactly as I concluded above. I've put in bold for you below.
"Mo is on the team. Mo is a representative of the team. I care about the team. Therefore I care about Mo as a representative of the team."
Yes, obviously I "would care" (hypothetically) about Mo's case if he weren't a representative of the team because I think what he is accused of doing was wrong.
That is why I think his actions should have repercussions and that his position on the team should be in jeopardy. If he played for Ohio State or Iowa I would care for this same reason.
I also have an additional reason to care about the case: I also care because he represents the team. So I care both because I think what he is accused of doing is wrong and because he represents the team.
I know, I am really going on out on a limb being against the distribution of child porn and revenge porn. The facts of the case will speak for themselves and to Mo's culpability. I am not saying he should be charged with felonies, so don't get the issues confused.
I think of the situation as being analogous to if Mo were my son, and yes, I'd be very disappointed in him.
I know if people in silicone valley that virtually have nothing and still live there. You have personal knowledge about Mo's family finances.
I mean, you got to the point where you were saying you care like if he was your son. You win!
I think we can all agree we'd rather Mo, or any of our guys, not be in this situation
No, I said I look at it ‘as being analogous to if he were my son,’ which does not mean I care about him as a son. More trolling. I really am done now.
You went to the "son card" to show your amount of caring. I mean, you reach the top of Caring Mountain.
You can't call it rape or even an assault for that matter. . After what I assume was an investigation nothing was found to charge either of the boys involved in the tape. Nothing. I believe the only time rape was even mentioned was after the video surfaced and then the girl said oh yeah by the way it was rape.
As we all know by now MO had nothing to do with the 3 some, umm "rape". He had nothing to do with creating the video. He was 15 when he received the video. Yes he was told to delete the video, why he didn't I have no idea. Only he knows for sure. The child porn charge is insane any logical person knows it. Did he send the video back at her to hurt her 100% yes. He was hurt and embarrassed by her rejection of his advances. We have all done or said things when angry that we probably wish we could take back. There is obviously a revenge porn law in California. What he did seems to fit breaking it. In my humble opinion he should be charged with the revenge porn if he indeed is found to have sent the video. All else should be dropped and he and all involved can go on about their lives.
As I have said before in other posts, as far as we know this is a one time heat of the moment bad judgment call by MO. Should it be something that ruins his life? Probably not. If this type of behavior continues then yes more drastic action need to be taken by the team and or authorities. Until then he is young dumb kid, who did a dumb thing. Live and learn and move on.
In all fairness, this sounds like parents who came into my office when their child was in trouble for clearly doing something wrong. All aspects are present - pointing out why others didn't get in trouble, the rule (law) is wrong, excusing the behavior (refused his advances), admitting there is a law (rule) i.e. porn law only to say he "seems" to break it, and to discredit the accuser by bringing up the investigation and the fact he didn't create the video which have totally zero to do with anything the accused actually did. Then you cap it off by suggesting that "all else should be dropped and he and all involved can go on about their lives" assumes a minor incident and ah shucks, I didn't really mean it, let's make up and go home and forget it happened.
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I install windows if ya need help with that bay! You have better things to be concerned with!
Some people, me included, think it's kind of a big deal and if he was shown the door I would understand and support the decision.
Me coming here in hopes of updates and mainly getting 2 people arguing about the meaning of life:
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I see your point. No where did I say what he did was right. It wasn't, it was dumb, it was childish and it involved breaking laws. I am not excusing his behavior at all. What Im saying is his potential punishment (being labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life, and being kicked out of school) do not fit the crime. In my opinion.
The ONLY reason I bring up the 2 boys is to show that these boys allegedly assaulted/ raped a girl and they got a slap on the wrist. So I find it disturbing that many think Mos should be punished more severely than the 2 boys who actually committed the crime. This country is lacking common sense. I just hate to see a kids life destroyed because of it. Im not saying this because I care if he is on the team. From a team stand point we will be fine and he can be replaced.